Citigroup says gold could rise above $2,000 next year as world unravels

[ChumpDumper]

I did not. Actually, I'm making money as we speak.

As am I. As I have been all year.

My only "problem" is arguing with you about stuff you are clueless. I guess I will leave whottt continue the job of exposing you ignorant ass.

You still don't get it.

[smeagol]

You still don't get it.

There is nothing to "get". I made a comment and you make a big mistery out of it.

I know, you have a love-hate relationship with whottt and a secret code you only share with him. It goes way back.

Not at all. You just ruined what could have been a fun exchange with whottt.

Fun exchange? Mmmmkey . . . . . .

So now you're the boss here. Hypocrite.

No. I'm simply pointing out there is a method available for those who want to ask questions to posters and only want that poster to respond. It is called a PM.

If you ask a question on the board, it is fair game for anybody to answer. That is why it is a public board.

It's funny you are arguing this point with me, given that you have been on my side of the argument many times. (ie, you are a hypocrite and you are contradicting yourself).

Hey, how did your wife do in that "Who would you rather " internets photo contest you entered her in? That was smart and classy.

She did fine. You read the thread so no need for me to spell it out.

Keeping my money out of the stocks proves I was smart. I'm no day trader, so I have to call the overall strategy a smart one.

So what was it? CDs, real estate, bonds, currencies?

Did you buy Citigroup last week?

No, but I have been buying calls and puts on the S&P and DJ and been making a bundle ($50K in two months).

[smeagol]

As am I. As I have been all year.

How?

You still don't get it.

Still in italics for effect

[exstatic]

One measurement of a company's performance is the value of its stock. Citi's more than doubled in a weeks time. The reason why it doubled is irrelevant if the ask was to find something positive to say about Citi.

Go ask the people who bought Citi at $3 and sold it at $8 if they have something positive to say.

I know the answer, do you?

Well Citigroup has been so wise with its financial predictions and actions lately, I can't see how they could possibly be wrong.

You've skewed the original context of what CD said by introducing stock price, which wasn't mentioned at all. He specifically said financial predictions and actions. You brought up the bailout inflated stock price, which has nothing to do with company performance in this case, and everything to do with House and Senate votes. Here's and example: You have a jar that is half full of water. You drop pebbles into it until the water level approaches the top. Is there more water in it? No. The water is Citi's stock performance, and the pebbles are the bailout effect. Citi did nothing to cause the "rise", it was the Congress dropping our hard earned pebbles into it that made the level rise.

[ChumpDumper]

There is nothing to "get". I made a comment and you make a big mistery out of it.

I know, you have a love-hate relationship with whottt and a secret code you only share with him. It goes way back.

It is only a mystery to you.

Fun exchange? Mmmmkey . . . . . .

Yes, it's fun when people make up and then are forced to explain themselves. You had to go and take this whole thing seriously and ruined it. It's amazing how clueless you are.

No. I'm simply pointing out there is a method available for those who want to ask questions to posters and only want that poster to respond. It is called a PM.

If you ask a question on the board, it is fair game for anybody to answer. That is why it is a public board.

It's funny you are arguing this point with me, given that you have been on my side of the argument many times. (ie, you are a hypocrite and you are contradicting yourself).

Your job here is to not understand anything. OK.

She did fine. You read the thread so no need for me to spell it out.

She did not do well at all. Go ahead and spell it out. Or maybe you're hoping someone will rush to your aid like you did whottt. ou sure seem to want to avoid talking about it like he did Citigroup. Are you finally catching the clue?

So what was it? CDs, real estate, bonds, currencies?

Not stocks. It was my big financial decision for the year and it worked out. As I said before, I don't constantly around with money.

No, but I have been buying calls and puts on the S&P and DJ and been making a bundle ($50K in two months).

Good for you.

[smeagol]

You've skewed the original context of what CD said by introducing stock price, which wasn't mentioned at all.

Skewed? WTF are you talking about? He specifically asked whottt if he had something positive to say about Citi's performance (read post #11 again).

Actually, if you think about it, even post #8 (the one where CD talks about financial predictions and actions) is pretty stupid in the context of the thread.

He specifically said financial predictions and actions. You brought up the bailout inflated stock price, which has nothing to do with company performance in this case, and everything to do with House and Senate votes. Here's and example: You have a jar that is half full of water. You drop pebbles into it until the water level approaches the top. Is there more water in it? No. The water is Citi's stock performance, and the pebbles are the bailout effect. Citi did nothing to cause the "rise", it was the Congress dropping our hard earned pebbles into it that made the level rise.

I will repeat myself. Who the cares why the stock rose? The fact of the matter is it did, and that in intself is "something positive", which is what CD asked for in post #11. I simply pointed that fact out and I got CD all worked up about it. Because, you know, God forbid somebody gets in the middle of a pissing contest between himself and whottt

He even had to bring up my wife to defend himself, which is pretty lame, even for his standards of baginess . . .

[smeagol]

It is only a mystery to you.

I know enough about it to see how stupid you are. Let's leave it at that.

Yes, it's fun when people make up and then are forced to explain themselves.

Like whottt and the election? Oh please, do tell me more . . .

You had to go and take this whole thing seriously and ruined it.

Ruined it? I'm actually enjoying myself

It's amazing how clueless you are.

Ahh . . . the great come back

Your job here is to not understand anything. OK.

Another great comeback. You're on a roll.

She did not do well at all. Go ahead and spell it out.

It depends on how you look at it. She did get more votes (albeit from many of the same trolls). In any case, you probably missed the point of that whole thread . . . talking about being clueless . . .

Or maybe you're hoping someone will rush to your aid like you did whottt.

To argue with you?

You sure seem to want to avoid talking about it like he did Citigroup.Are you finally catching the clue?

Avoiding to talk about what?

Not stocks. It was my big financial decision for the year and it worked out.

What worked out? There was good money to be made in the stock market, and there still is.

So you put your money in real estate? That surely went well.

Or corporate bonds? Swell!

My real question is: do you have any money saved?

Good for you.

I'd say excellent for me. That is probably as much money as you make in a year and I made it in two months, playing the market both ways.

[exstatic]

I will repeat myself. Who the cares why the stock rose?

Because, you are using the stock rise as proof of something "good" at Citi, when it's only due to Congressional bailout. No bailout? No stock bump.

[ChumpDumper]

I know enough about it to see how stupid you are. Let's leave it at that.

Nah, you're still clueless.

Like whottt and the election? Oh please, do tell me more . . .

No, he is supposed to tell more. That's where the gold lies. You're just such a humorless pile -- but that's pretty funny in itself.

Ruined it? I'm actually enjoying myself

As are we, now that you're red-assing all over the place.

Ahh . . . the great come back

It's the truth.

Another great comeback. You're on a roll.

Know your role. We know yours already.

It depends on how you look at it. She did get more votes (albeit from many of the same trolls). In any case, you probably missed the point of that whole thread . . . talking about being clueless . . .

Do tell us all the meaning of entering your wife in the internets who would you rather contest.

To argue with you?

Absolutely.

Avoiding to talk about what?

The internets contest.

What worked out? There was good money to be made in the stock market, and there still is.

Fantastic.

My real question is: do you have any money saved?

Very much so. How do you think I have all this time to post?

I'd say excellent for me. That is probably as much money as you make in a year and I made it in two months, playing the market both ways.

So now you're going big time on me.

You really seem to have a need to prove your and your wife's worth to people on the internets who really couldn't give a .

That's funny.

[smeagol]

Because, you are using the stock rise as proof of something "good" at Citi, when it's only due to Congressional bailout. No bailout? No stock bump.

Ok. You win.

Next time I buy a stock that more than doubles in price in a weeks time I will say it is something negative.

[smeagol]

No, he is supposed to tell more. That's where the gold lies. You're just such a humorless pile -- but that's pretty funny in itself.

Conclusion: nobody should get in between you and whottt when you are going at it because you get buthurt.

As are we, now that you're red-assing all over the place.

We? Who's we? I see only you, having a debate with me. Or do you need somebody to come in your defense?

Know your role. We know yours already.

Again with the "We". You and who else?

Do tell us all the meaning of entering your wife in the internets who would you rather contest.

Ahh . . . second time you try to twist the truth. Don't worry . . . it is not the first time you do it . . . it will not be the last.

The internets contest.

Posting too much has made you slow and stupid.

You are acusing me of wanting to avoid discussiing a topic you brought up?

You brought my wife into this discussion. Do you want to discuss my kids too? I can see who's the classy one around here . . .

Fantastic.

You see . . . we agree on this one. It is fantastic when you buy an asset that goes up in value . . . just like Citi did since it hit $3

Very much so. How do you think I have all this time to post?

Let me guess. You live on foodstamps in your basement.

So now you're going big time on me.

You really seem to have a need to prove your and your wife's worth to people on the internets who really couldn't give a .

Nah . . only to idiots.

That's funny.

It is. I always have a good chuckle when I look at by bank account statement.

[ChumpDumper]

Conclusion: nobody should get in between you and whottt when you are going at it because you get buthurt.

Sure.

We? Who's we? I see only you, having a debate with me. Or do you need somebody to come in your defense?

Looks like you want to start another contest.

Again with the "We". You and who else?

You're a joke here. That you don't realize it makes it even funnier.

Ahh . . . second time you try to twist the truth. Don't worry . . . it is not the first time you do it . . . it will not be the last.

I notice you are avoiding explaining it like the plague. Just liek whottt was doing before you started your crusade in this thread. Sorry you lost, man -- but you were the idiot who agreed to it.

Posting too much has made you slow and stupid.

You are acusing me of wanting to avoid discussiing a topic you brought up?

You brought my wife into this discussion. Do you want to discuss my kids too? I can see who's the classy one around here . . .

You were the idiot who tried to change the subject when you got angry, now you are trying to weasel out of it when you had the whip reversed on you. Again, I'm sorry you're so sensitive about these things. If you can't handle it, you don't need to subject yourself to it.

You see . . . we agree on this one. It is fantastic when you buy an asset that goes up in value . . . just like Citi did since it hit $3

Right. You simply are an idiot otherwise. It's not a crime. just accept it.

Let me guess. You live on foodstamps in your basement.

Hey, you can think whatever you like. If you are so insecure that you have to talk about money the way you do and convince yourself that I live on food stamps in my basement, that's completely fine. I didn't think you were that shallow and self-delusional, but you have continued to surprise.

Nah . . only to idiots.

So you admit you have a need to prove your and your wife's worth to idiots on the internets who really couldn't give a .

Yeah, that's better.

And it's nice that in your attempt to get in the last word, you are really showing your true colors. I thought entering your wife in the internets who would you rather contest was an aberration, but it wasn't. It's good to know.

[smeagol]

Sure.

You have run out of witty answers. I see.

Looks like you want to start another contest.

I have no issues starting contests. Not sure what this new contest you so desperately wanna start is about. Be my guest, just like TSA was. Actually, he started more than one on my behalf, because I don't even know how to start a poll.

You're a joke here.

Says who? You??!! Then it must be true. We all know of your unmatched wisdom.

I notice you are avoiding explaining it like the plague.

You brought the topic into discussion. It has nothing to do with Citi, but that didn't stop your pathetic lame ass to bring my wife to the table of points to be discussed. As I said before, just to make this discussion even lamer, curtesy of chumphumper, let's through my kids and some of my dead relatives. How does that sound, skippy?

Just liek whottt was doing before you started your crusade in this thread.

My crusade? I only made a one line remark about something positive regarding City and you took it personally. Even whottt disregarded me right away. I'm just here to prove you'll go the extra mile just to have the last word. So far, I'm more than succeeding in my quest.

Sorry you lost, man -- but you were the idiot who agreed to it.

Not sure what your measuring scale is, aside from your opinion, on who lost what. This is another common thing you like to do. Proclaim yourself the winner of every disuccion you're in. Lame, isn't it?

You were the idiot who tried to change the subject when you got angry, now you are trying to weasel out of it when you had the whip reversed on you. Again, I'm sorry you're so sensitive about these things. If you can't handle it, you don't need to subject yourself to it.

It is ironic how your comment applies to yourself. Hope you see the irony, chump.

Right. You simply are an idiot otherwise. It's not a crime. just accept it.

Again, no witty responses left in the bucket so you have to repeat yourself.

Hey, you can think whatever you like. If you are so insecure that you have to talk about money the way you do

Insecure about what? My future is pretty secured . . .

and convince yourself that I live on food stamps in my basement,

I'm not completely convinced, but it is a possibility.

So you admit you have a need to prove your and your wife's worth to idiots on the internets who really couldn't give a .

If you couldn't give a , you would let my money comments go, but you have responded to them multiple times.

And it's nice that in your attempt to get in the last word, you are really showing your true colors.

I have learned this from the master at getting the last word in.

I thought entering your wife in the internets who would you rather contest was an aberration, but it wasn't. It's good to know.

Lying again. No surprises there.

[smeagol]

And the funny thing dump er, is that even your first post in this thread was stupid. Measuring the analyst at Citibank who makes a prediction about future prices of gold with Citibank's financial performance, is pretty stupid.

But I will not hold my breath about you ever understanding this point. You claim this is not a good year to play the market . . .

[ChumpDumper]

You brought the topic into discussion. It has nothing to do with Citi, but that didn't stop your pathetic lame ass to bring my wife to the table of points to be discussed.

You started it, dip . You're so mad you don't even remember.

As I said before, just to make this discussion even lamer, curtesy of chumphumper, let's through my kids and some of my dead relatives. How does that sound, skippy?

I don't remember your entering them in internets contests. Do you have a link to those?

My crusade? I only made a one line remark about something positive regarding City and you took it personally. Even whottt disregarded me right away. I'm just here to prove you'll go the extra mile just to have the last word. So far, I'm more than succeeding in my quest.

So you just want the last word? Is that your crusade?

Not sure what your measuring scale is, aside from your opinion on my loss. This is another common thing you like to do. Proclaim yourself the winner of every disuccion you're in.

This isn't a compe ion of any kind. Just a long meltdown for you. It's fun and sad at the same time. I'm pretty disillusioned now, but it's best to know these things.

It is ironic how your comment applies to yourself. Hope you see the irony, chump.

There really isn't much irony here. I would have to be angry.

Again, no witty responses left in the bucket so you have to repeat yourself.

Maybe someday you'll get it.

Insecure about what?

Ah, playing dumb. Well, you're probably not playing.

I'm not completely convinced, but it is a possibility.

As it is with you. The only problem is, you really care about letting everybody know your business on the internets. I don't.

If you coldn't give a , you would let my money comments go, but you have responded to them multiple times.

Money is very important to you. It makes you feel superior other people if you think you have more then they have, and you want to make sure everyone here knows that. Mission accomplished.

Lying again. No surprises there.

There was a contest. You entered her into it. No lie. Why lie about it when you just said you did it?

[smeagol]

You started it, dip .

The Hedo > Manu comment?

You're so mad you don't even remember.

Mad? Me? You had to bring my wife into a Citi discussion and I'm the one who's mad?

I don't remember your entering them in internets contests. Do you have a link to those?

As if the contest was your limit . . .

So you just want the last word? Is that your crusade?

It's been your crusade for some time now.

This isn't a compe ion of any kind. Just a long meltdown for you. It's fun and sad at the same time. I'm pretty disillusioned now, but it's best to know these things.

You suggested we should start a poll. Now it is you who does not remember things.

There really isn't much irony here. I would have to be angry.

The fact you had to bring my wife tells me I touched a nerve.

Maybe someday you'll get it.

Blah, blah . . . I've heard this one before.

Did you understand why your ini al post on this thread was pretty stupid?

Ah, playing dumb. Well, you're probably not playing.

Comeback of the year!

As it is with you. The only problem is, you really care about letting everybody know your business on the internets. I don't.

When I find it appropriate to do so.

Money is very important to you. It makes you feel superior other people if you think you have more then they have, and you want to make sure everyone here knows that. Mission accomplished.

That is pretty much what moves the majority of the people in your country. You should not be surprised.

There was a contest. You entered her into it. No lie. Why lie about it when you just said you did it?

Don't play dumb. You know what you are lying about. Buy hey, you have perfected the art . . . as I said, I'm not surprised.

[ChumpDumper]

The Hedo > Manu comment?

Yep.

Mad? Me? You had to bring my wife into a Citi discussion and I'm the one who's mad?

You made it personal. Because you were mad.

As if the contest was your limit . . .

My limit of what?

It's been your crusade for some time now.

So now it has become important to you because of that.

You suggested we should start a poll. Now it is you who does not remember things.

Asked. Not suggested. But you're getting upset, so these lapses are understandable.

The fact you had to bring my wife tells me I touched a nerve.

It tells me you entered your wife in an internets contest and people remember it. Now you're acting all indignant about it, which is hilarious.

Blah, blah . . . I've heard this one before.

Did you understand why your ini al post on this thread was pretty stupid?

My initial post was spot on. Citi did a really ty job with their financial predictions, otherwise they would not need a $30 billion bailout to prop up their stock.

When I find it appropriate to do so.

You enter your wife in internets contests when you find it appropriate to do so as well.

That is pretty much what moves the majority of the people in your country. You should not be surprised.

Frankly, I am surprised that you believe it is so important that you try to lord it over other people on a message board. I've lost quite a bit of respect for you. You can say you don't care what I or anyone else here thinks, but then why did you do it in the first place?

Don't play dumb. You know what you are lying about. Buy hey, you have perfected the art . . . as I said, I'm not surprised.

I didn't follow it that closely. There was a contest, and you entered your wife in it. What did I leave out?

I didn't think you would do that then, just as I didn't think you would try to play the richer card to prove you are a better person than a stranger on the internets either. But hey, live and learn. I've been wrong before.

[smeagol]

Yep.

So my Hedo - Manu comment is what got you all pissy about this whole situation . . .

Ok.

In order for you to feel better, I will take it back. Let me know if this is ok or you need me to send you some milk and cookies.

My limit of what?

Your limit to keeping the discussion at certain level. I make a remark about a baskeball related comment which dates from 2004, and you get pissy about it.

It tells me you entered your wife in an internets contest and people remember it. Now you're acting all indignant about it, which is hilarious.

I don't care what you think, chump. I just feel like pointing out when you twist the truth.

My initial post was spot on. Citi did a really ty job with their financial predictions, otherwise they would not need a $30 billion bailout to prop up their stock.

Your initial comment was not spot on.

How many people worked at Citi before they started laying off people? 300K roughly?

How many had to do with Citi's demise? I'd guestimate less than 1% of those 300,000 employees.

Now explain to me how the precious metal analyst and his team are related to subprime mortgages, CLOs, CDOs, funky derivatives, risk management and the other parts of the banks the ed up?

Now you see how stupid your comment is?

(cue for chumpdumpster to start pulling explanations from his ass on why he is right )

You enter your wife in internets contests when you find it appropriate to do so as well.

Pretty much when idiots defy me to do such thing.

Frankly, I am surprised that you believe it is so important that you try to lord it over other people on a message board. I've lost quite a bit of respect for you. You can say you don't care what I or anyone else here thinks, but then why did you do it in the first place?

I only bring it up when I feel I'm being bullied. I've only done it twice in 6 years of posting here.

I didn't follow it that closely. There was a contest, and you entered your wife in it. What did I leave out?

You left out the context of how it happened, you lied about it being a "Who I would " contest, you said I started the contest (another lie). . . lot's of inaccuracies.

[ChumpDumper]

So my Hedo - Manu comment is what got you all pissy about this whole situation . . .

Ok.

In order for you to feel better, I will take it back. Let me know if this is ok or you need me to send you some milk and cookies.

Nah. I don't mind it at all. You're the one who wants to take it all back now that you look like a fool.

Your limit to keeping the discussion at certain level. I make a remark about a baskeball related comment which dates from 2004, and you get pissy about it.

I make a remark about an internets contest in response and you cry like a pussy. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

I don't care what you think, chump. I just feel like pointing out when you twist the truth.

So you do care.

Your initial comment was not spot on.

How many people worked at Citi before they started laying off people? 300K roughly?

How many had to do with Citi's demise? I'd guestimate less than 1% of those 300,000 employees.

Now explain to me how the precious metal analyst and his team are related to subprime mortgages, CLOs, CDOs, funky derivatives, risk management and the other parts of the banks the ed up?

Now you see how stupid your comment is?

(cue for chumpdumpster to start pulling explanations from his ass on why he is right )

Still looks good. It was a joke after all. Everyone but you and whottt saw it as such. Makes sense.

Pretty much when idiots defy me to do such thing.

That's awesome.

I only bring it up when I feel I'm being bullied. I've only done it twice in 6 years of posting here.

Oh man, this keeps getting better.

You left out the context of how it happened, you lied about it being a "Who I would " contest, you said I started the contest (another lie). . . lot's of inaccuracies.

I said you entered her in the contest, not that you started it. I said you started all the personal stuff in this thread. Both are true.

And of course it was a who would you rather contest. Don't be naive.

[2centsworth]

[whottt]

Damn still talking about me?

Look...my entire purpose in this thread was to call Chump a dumbass and that's it. I just felt like doing it on that particular day...seemed like it and the likely reaction it would get would be funny...and it has been.

[jack sommerset]

A few of you should exchange phone numbers.

[ChumpDumper]

the likely reaction it would get would be funny...and it has been.

That's for sure.

[smeagol]

Conclusion: chump always has to have the last word, even when he looks like an idiot . . . even when he is off by a mile.

Oh, it looks like your Hedo > Manu comment still haunts you . . .

[RandomGuy]

Will you two just get a room, and get it over with?

HA!