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    so because you think most dont feel for manu here like before? so the spurs will let him go. yeah ok.

    hey manu fans dont love you as much like a couple of years ago, so umm we're not going to resign you. parker too.

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    Manu's already said countless times that he plans to retire his whole career with the spurs i've seen his interviews as well as his own website he's confirmed this many times if you learn to read and check it out, this is a stupid post"". MANU'S ONE OF THE UNTOUCHABLES"" POP'S ALREADY COPNFIRMED THIS AS HAS THE SPURS MNGMNT. no joke". he's too important.

    I agree with you.

    I would definitely keep this guy for as long as he can play. His intangibles are off the chart and is one of the most compe ive guys in the league.

    I believe the Spurs will give him a fair extension and he remains a Spur!!!

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    That much? Seems like a lot for a 34-5 yo with lots of miles... not that I begrudge it to him at all, he took a paycut on his current contract to help the team, but wouldn't giving Manu that much compromise the vaunted 2010 FA plan the FO is all about?
    Huh? When did Manu take a paycut? The Spurs had a max number they were willing to offer him for his current contract. They offered it and he took it. He didn't take a pay cut.

    I think Manu will be offered a 2 year contract for about $20M.

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    My guess is that a Manu extension comes at a decent discount in the 2010 year, similar to how Duncan's contract is structured ($18M in 2010 and $22M in 2011). I'd guess Manu gets somewhere around $7-8M in 2010 and then it bumps to $11-12M in the next year (or two).

    That should keep the Spurs compe ive for max or near-max deals if they want to dole them out.
    That's pretty similar to my thinking. I think they'll treat Manu similar to Duncan, telling him, "If you really want a max contract extension for 2-3 years, we'll give it to you. We want you to stick around, so if that takes 2 years, $25 million, so be it. However, we want to test out the free agent market in 2010. So, we can put a much better team around you guys if you take 3 years starting at ~$7 million."

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    I didnt know that all Spurs big men will be free agents in 2010 if its not from timvp. I know Manu will be free agent, but ssomehow im still dreaming Lebron will go to Spurs..i think salary that should be spend on Manu,KT and Fab will be enough to lure him to SA,but I dont know if this is possible. That would be a dream come true if thats happen..i love Manu but having Lebron as replacement is an upgrade..KT and Fab will be old at that time and I guess Ian and the rise of garbage truck Bonner is enough to replace them. Nice dream

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    That's pretty similar to my thinking. I think they'll treat Manu similar to Duncan, telling him, "If you really want a max contract extension for 2-3 years, we'll give it to you. We want you to stick around, so if that takes 2 years, $25 million, so be it. However, we want to test out the free agent market in 2010. So, we can put a much better team around you guys if you take 3 years starting at ~$7 million."
    Hopefullt that is what will happen...that way Spurs will get enough salary cap to make a run for rising talents to upgrade Spurs roster

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    I'd guess Manu gets somewhere around $7-8M in 2010 and then it bumps to $11-12M in the next year (or two).
    That's not possible. He can only get a 10.5% raise. So if he makes $8M in 2008, he'd make $8.84M the next year. Unless you are talking about giving him a one-year deal and then giving him a different deal the following year.

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    Huh? When did Manu take a paycut? The Spurs had a max number they were willing to offer him for his current contract. They offered it and he took it. He didn't take a pay cut.

    I think Manu will be offered a 2 year contract for about $20M.
    What I meant was that he was offered more elsewhere (didn't Denver offer him 6mil more to go there?), sorry for the imprecision.

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    hey manu fans dont love you as much like a couple of years ago, so umm we're not going to resign you. parker too.
    That's it! You can kiss my flag-touting, non-believing argentinian ass goodbye!
    -Manu

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    What I meant was that he was offered more elsewhere (didn't Denver offer him 6mil more to go there?), sorry for the imprecision.
    No, Denver never made him an offer.

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    Huh? When did Manu take a paycut? The Spurs had a max number they were willing to offer him for his current contract. They offered it and he took it. He didn't take a pay cut.

    I think Manu will be offered a 2 year contract for about $20M.
    I'd be tempted to borrow a trick from Chicago... Give him a long but decreasing contract. He'd be falling into a Brent Barry role as he got older anyway; why not pay him like BB's last contract (which was acceptable value for the Spurs).

    Say a full 6 years, 9.76, 9.09, 8.42, 7.74, 7.07, 6.4 $Millions. A total of roughly 48.5 Million over 6 years.

    In 2010, we'd be committed to (estimated) 44.75 $Millions (Tim 18.7, Tony, 13.5, Manu 9.76, Hill 1.16, Ian 1.62 $Millions). That would allow us enough space for 1 max contract (starting at ~13 Million), assuming a salary cap of ~ 60 $Millions (this year it was 58.68$M)...

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    I'd be tempted to borrow a trick from Chicago... Give him a long but decreasing contract. He'd be falling into a Brent Barry role as he got older anyway; why not pay him like BB's last contract (which was acceptable value for the Spurs).

    Say a full 6 years, 9.76, 9.09, 8.42, 7.74, 7.07, 6.4 $Millions. A total of roughly 48.5 Million over 6 years.

    In 2010, we'd be committed to (estimated) 44.75 $Millions (Tim 18.7, Tony, 13.5, Manu 9.76, Hill 1.16, Ian 1.62 $Millions). That would allow us enough space for 1 max contract (starting at ~13 Million), assuming a salary cap of ~ 60 $Millions (this year it was 58.68$M)...
    Huh? Barry was making like $5M as a Spur, not $9.76M.

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    Huh? Barry was making like $5M as a Spur, not $9.76M.

    Barry was making the MLE (essentially); while Manu isn't going to drop into the Barry role at 33 (2010 season), by the time he's 37 or so, he'll be making (under my suggestion) 6.4 million, which will likely be the MLE by that time, and he'll be playing the Barry role, with someone else acting as starting SG...

    Also, if we simply offered say 6 years at the MLE, I wouldn't expect Manu to take it...This way, he gets about twice as much money as is being offered for short term contracts (~25 M$), and the Spurs get a rational cost for the player he will be (ie a salary bill that declines as Manu gets worse).

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    Barry was making the MLE (essentially); while Manu isn't going to drop into the Barry role at 33 (2010 season), by the time he's 37 or so, he'll be making (under my suggestion) 6.4 million, which will likely be the MLE by that time, and he'll be playing the Barry role, with someone else acting as starting SG...

    Also, if we simply offered say 6 years at the MLE, I wouldn't expect Manu to take it...This way, he gets about twice as much money as is being offered for short term contracts (~25 M$), and the Spurs get a rational cost for the player he will be (ie a salary bill that declines as Manu gets worse).
    I don't think there's any way the Spurs offer Manu anything longer than 3 years, but I guess anything can happen.

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    I don't see Manu leaving unless we trade him or a Euroleague team comes after him. I could possibly see him ending is career over there where he started.

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