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Bowen with 1 rebound, 3 points ... and a +21 best on the team.. I think Pop did a great job allocating playing time just wish Bonner got more minutes the way he was playing 2nite.
We had 6 TOs and it's a Double OT Game..
Bowen with 1 rebound, 3 points ... and a +21 best on the team.. I think Pop did a great job allocating playing time just wish Bonner got more minutes the way he was playing 2nite.
Whew! That was a painful game to watch. Glad the Spurs pulled it out and that Terry fouled his team out of a close game with that flagrant. Manu pulled a few bonehead moves to lead to the first and second overtime, but he is such a threat it is hard not to have him out there. Good game by Tony, but he needed to get a little closer on defense. He is too fast to sag off like he is doing. Tim was the monster we have come to admire.
Wouldn't that be something if The Lakers lose to Sacramento huh?
Fingers crossed here.
ShaQ, Yao, Dirk, & DUNCAN have great games tonight.
Ok but barrea is good, it's just bowen is an insane defender...Poor TP heh.
And Tim is still #1. He carried the team when the others were injured. He may not be as fast, but he is a of a lot craftier and smarter than Kobe or Lebron.
he's also quite a bit taller. and as much as the nba has warped the rules in the past 10 years to help perimeter players and hamper post players (because they so desperately want another MJ), basketball is STILL a game of height. it really does matter. a LOT.
not going to argue on that. I'd rather watch Tim over any player, only others that are close are DWade and Kobe. But like someone else said, Tim isn't at his 2003 level anymore where he was by FAR the best player in the NBA and better than anybody playing now too. He's still top 3 and I imagine he'll have his best playoffs in years this season. He just looks so much better.
Tony is not the greatest one-on-one defender as is and Barea is a VERY tough guy to keep in front of you. The spurs only chance of guarding him was to switch on the those pick and roles and hope he didn't get to the basket before Tim's long arms in the end. Tony came up with a huge steal when we needed it towards the end of regulation which was key. The team overall bent but did not break on defense, which was all we could ask for against a team like Dallas than can aways put up points.
I'd rather have Tim on my team than Lebron or Kobe, but I think they're better as of now.
He does look great this season, right out of the gate. It's been a blast watching a little taste of post RRT Duncan now. I hope his minutes can be managed, if he's fresh and healthy his Playoff performances will be intense.
was i dreaming or was bonner a perfect 5-5 from the floor??
goooo red rocket!!
Wow.... that game was fun as to watch. I have to give it to you guys that the Spurs are gonna be a badass team this year especially with mason and hill coming off the bench. O well I hope we get to meet in the playoffs because it will be the best series of the year
Everyone tuned to the Lakers/Kings games.
The Lakers are getting picked apart by the lowly kings. Hah
bad news though
it's neck to neck now 2 pt game
GRRRR!
What game are you watching? The Kings are making laps around Lakers. lolbas news though
it's neck to neck now 2 pt game
GRRRR!
He had 4 assists... still, ing impressive... but hey, he's Tim Duncan.
Just cause he's not quite as good as he was in 2003, doesn't mean he's not still the best. i still say that ever since Jordan, the league and the public have deluded themselves into thinking that basketball is won by sg's and sf's. it's not the case. championship teams have been anchored by all-star caliber big men 90-95% of the time. just check it out. the facts speak for themselves. almost every championship team (except for jordan's) was anchored by a mikan, a russell, a chamberlain, an abdul-jabbar, a moses malone, a wes unseld, a bill walton,a mchale, a shaq, an olajuwon, a wallace/wallace duo, a duncan, or a garnett.
back in the day, when people like gervin and adrian dantley and dave thomas were scoring maniacs, nobody considered them MVPs. because scoring alone will not get you a championship. you need rebounds and interior defense.
so to with all the fools who want to give mvp's to nash and kobe and iverson and lebron. dominant big men are the true mvps.
Last edited by peskypesky; 12-10-2008 at 12:12 AM.
triple double for Timmy yeah!!!
okay! whatever!
whoa Sacrament at it again.
Go! Go! Kings!
I have to agree with you.
If I'm constructing a team around one player for one year, I'm starting with Tim Duncan and it's not even a tough decision.
First off, on the defensive end, what Tim enables the perimeter defenders to be able to do is be aggressive. They can be so aggressive only because Tim is back there in the paint protecting the goal. Kobe and Lebron don't / can't protect the goal like that. You finish possessions off on the defensive end with rebounding. Tim is far superior to them as a defensive rebounder, naturally. You might argue that this is not surprising due to the position that Tim plays.
But this is precisely Pesky's point. A superstar Power Forward, in fact, the best to ever play that position, will have inherent advantages in these categories.
Next, on the offensive end. Tim will always give you the 20 points and 10 rebounds a game average. You can write it down. But it's more than that.
He spaces the floor in a way that the small forward and the guards don't.
That's because he posts up and he's so effective posting up, that the shooting guards who feed him the ball are often left with an open shot.
That's the type of spacing that guards simply can't create.
It's easier for a defender to go back and forth covering a player near Kobe or Lebron and then help out and double on Kobe or Lebron simply due to the areas in which they operate.
They aren't post players. Therefore, it's easier for defenders to help out without completely leaving their man wide open.
So, Kobe and Lebron for that reason don't create spacing in the same way.
Also, many times the pass out of post leads to one more pass which leads to the score. However, the critical pass was the one from the big man back out. Tim is a great passing big man. Because often there is a second pass needed to get the score, he does not get credit for an assist, but the score and the play begins with Tim Duncan.
We should also note that Tim shoots at or above 50% every season. Kobe doesn't. In fact, Kobe surprisingly, isn't even that great a 3 point shooter by percentage.
Finally, when Kobe has won a championship, he was never the best player on the team. Tim has been the best player on the Spurs team every year that we have won with the exception of the 2007 NBA Finals. Tim has proven that he can be that centerpiece that you build around and win a championship with. He has done it without any other allstars on his team (2007 and 2003). Lebron and Kobe have yet to prove what Timmy has already proven: build a team around me and you can and will win championships.
For me, this is a conclusive case.
yeah - I live in Arlington so I'm watching the Mavs station and they had the wrong stats! They were showing the top players on each team and they had Duncan with 14 assists.
Beno, Beno, Beno!!
Kings are now up by 17! woo hoo!!!!!
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