No, it wasn't a terrible loss.That FL loss was pretty bad, but Ole Miss is not a horrible team, especially if they beat TT in the Cotton.
God I hate Florida.
But it's worse than OU's loss, worse than UT's loss, worse than Penn State's loss (Iowa on the road is tougher than Miss at home), worse than Tech's, Utah didn't have one, it's worse than both of Ohio State's, worse than USC's, worse than Alabama's, etc...
Not a bad loss, but the worst of that group.
The bull of it all is that for the second time in three years, UTAH goes undefeated and gets jobbed out of a le shot. Someone please tell me where the bottom of the SEC or Big 12 is compe ive, as opposed to the MWC? The strength of schedule comments from the media keeping Utah out is total crap! The MWC Own3d the Pac-10 this year, and still Utah is not even considered in the hunt.
We need playoffs NOW!!!
I'm curious to see what Utah does against Bama, but I don't think they have the horses to stay in that game. Maybe they prove me wrong but I think they will be overmatched on both lines.
Yep.....just like OU and Boise State
It all on the field my man, all on the field.
i agree. i mean seriously folks you cant put utah in teh same class as these other "top tier" teams. i mean look at some of these teams they play. weber state, unlv, chair force, san diego state....not to mention teams like boise st and ball state that have smiliar gay schedules. i nkow that utah probably COULD beat texas, or oklahoma or florida and bama. but i mean realistically on a regular basis? no. especially if you threw them in a tougher conference. its one thing beating someone when youre team is all rested and fresh, another one when youre playing good teams week in and out. and yes i know that OU UT FL have some wweak schools on their schedule too.
and the reason it was such a classic game is bc BS was supposed to lose and they didnt. but again, yes any given day one team can beat another. but until they start doing it consistently they need to stay out of the conversatin. i mean look at hawaii vs geaorgia last year. i'd rather see tech than utah in a bcs bowlYep.....just like OU and Boise State
It all on the field my man, all on the field.
the only problem i have with florida going to the le game with their one loss is that it was against an UNRANKED team. and at home. that should rule them out, even though tehy did win their conference.
Who gives a .....that is like saying Boston and the Lakers should win every year because they have tradition of winning and money. That is ignorant. How did your highschool or college do in championship games? Were they like Judson, Duke in basketball or Texas in football? If not, they suck and dont deserve to ever challenge for a le.
See how dumb that sounds???
Im telling you right now.....I personally dont want to see USC, Ohio State, Florida and Texas every ing year.......that sucks and gets old.
Damn.
NCAA football...the only sport where half the participants are INELIGIBLE for the championship before the season even begins.
Say what you will about Utah probably losing to the main powers (and I agree - they would), but they took care of business in every game and did everything right this year - which can't be said for the teams that are playing for the championship.
But because they don't play in a BCS conference, they are ineligible for a shot at the le. In what world does that make sense?
I agree with you on your points. If I was a Utah or Boise St fan I would be pissed. They have both built respectable programs.
As to lebombs comments, what crawled up your ass with the. UGA has easily handled Hawaii (undefeated) and Boise St (with the same team that beat OU) in the last 3 years. Those teams will get the best of some of the big boys sometimes, but would lose 8 out of 10. Its not like I was saying they sucked, but they don't have the hosses up front like Bama, that's a fact, and football is won in the trenches. Pull the ing stick out.
ehhh....my high school was a small high school and didnt try to play outside of its level. and guess what, when we did, we got destroyed. like we deserved.Who gives a .....that is like saying Boston and the Lakers should win every year because they have tradition of winning and money. That is ignorant. How did your highschool or college do in championship games? Were they like Judson, Duke in basketball or Texas in football? If not, they suck and dont deserve to ever challenge for a le.
See how dumb that sounds???
Im telling you right now.....I personally dont want to see USC, Ohio State, Florida and Texas every ing year.......that sucks and gets old.
Damn.
and thats nothing like saying boston or the lakers should always win. alot of nba teams, or pro teams for that matter suck bc of management, or their market. i mean who wanted to play in cleveland before lebron came along? no one. but their is a reason why the lakers and celtics win alot. bc they ave that tradition and people want to go there. to contend.
and actually, i dont give a about other collegfe teams, but yeah as a UT fan i would lvoe to see them contend for the natl champ every year. or even play in it every year. and it wouldnt get boring to me. and i think seeing UT lose to OSU, not syahing its going to happen, would be alot more entertaining than to watch them destroy ball state
edit:oh eyah one year we did go to playoffs in hs football. and again we got destoyred. bc we played a better team.
Everyone that is at least in the top 8-16 teams should have a shot at the le period. That is the only fair way to do it. Anything else is just dumb.
Sorry I hurt your feewings romand 20.
It isnt a stick up my ass, its the BCS.
The BCS is up your ass, that must suck.
My feelings weren't hurtI don't think that could happen on a message board. I agree with the playoffs and I don't think I've ever met a college football fan who thinks otherwise.
no hard feelings man......................It just irks me when I read or hear the college national championship is OU vs FL. Why? Because of a computer? WTF?? That is the most stupid crap you could think of.The BCS is up your ass, that must suck.
My feelings weren't hurt
the only thing is, can you imagine the controversy over the cutoff team? i mean take the number 7 through 9 team, assuming an 8 team playoff, and you will have just as much harping as UT was doing trying to get enough votes to come outahead of ou. which poll is used to decide the top 8? do they make a whole new poll and poll system?
correction. D-1 FBS football.
D-1 FCS football has it right.
-Mars
This is still better than any team after the so called #2 being completely eliminated dont you think??
I hear this argument and - frankly - it doesn't hold any water.
It's like the NCAA basketball tournament - does anybody really care if the #63 or #64 team gets screwed over in favor of the #66 or #67 team? Virtually zero once the tournament starts - you know you have the best team in the field somewhere.
Yes, whoever gets left out of a football tournament would be pissed - but if it's the #9 or the #17 team, nobody will care once it gets going. It'll have been pretty obvious that the best team is still in the field somewhere. However, with the BCS/Bowls - strong/valid arguments can be made over half the time that the truly best team isn't playing for the championship.
This is still better than any team after the so called #2 being completely eliminated dont you think??
yes but i doubt anyone in power cares what i think. maybe if fans revolted!!
it seems kinda like during the season that as long as you win you pretty much old your position in the rankings. only towards the end do you start losing spots even though you win.
yeah b ut i think thats kinda comparing apples to oranges. i mean if youre team aint good enough to get into a 64 team tourney, then you suck. and none of the power house schools get left out in that situation. i mean if texas basketball loses 8 games this season, theyll still make teh tourney. in teh 8 team fball playoff you have an undefeated team, though it is a weak ass schedule, not making the tourney.
and im not saying thats reason to not do a playoff, just think of the harping going on for the teams on "teh bubble" i mean it owuld be worse than mack brown going on tv every chance he got
edit:isnt their 65 teams in the bball tourney?
that, its D1 and D1-AA and you repeated my point.
-Mike
actually, they no longer use the A and AA les. It IS the FCS and the FBS.
however, when it WAS the A system, it was D1-A for the FBS, and D1-AA for the FCS.
and yes, I agree with your point, that everyone but the FBS has it right.
-Mars
Gee, uhh..yes it is..did you actually think I didn't know that? Anyone who knows college football knows to who I am referring to. The NCAA no longer use it but a lot of us do.
I find most people to be uneducated about the FCS. , there was a lot I didn't know until coming to JMU.
-Mars
This season, Florida (12-1) and Oklahoma (12-1) will meet in the BCS le game Jan. 8 in Miami.
Barton cited Southern California in 2003 and undefeated Auburn in 2004 as examples of worthy teams left out of the BCS national championship game.
"This year, we again have two teams with one loss each playing for the 'championship,' while two undefeated teams and four additional teams with only one loss will play in bowl games, but none can become 'champion,"' he said.
When an Energy and Commerce subcommittee held a hearing about the BCS in 2005, lawmakers said they weren't going to pursue legislation.
"The BCS method of determining who is No. 1 consistently misfires," Barton said Wednesday. "Simply exposing the flaws and subjecting them to discussion ... hasn't led to improvement by those who run the system."
LMAO..............this statement cant be anymore TRUE. F......the BCS.
WRONG!!!!
Utah Utes- the real BCS champs!
Last edited by tsb2000; 01-03-2009 at 12:47 AM.
I could say the same for FLA if we win next week, the thing is we can argue this till we are blue in the face, until a playoff comes we will continue to have this argument.WRONG!!!!
Utah Utes- the real BS champs!
You have no idea how I wished we could have played Florida and gave Urban Meyer his comeuppance for abandoning us.
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