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Please show us the connections between the case against the governor and the alleged investigation concerning Obama's property.
You're taking this awfully personal, aren't you? This story is not even a day old yet...and, it's part of a larger corrpution investigation involving, among other things, the Rezko/Obama property purchase.
But, to answer your question, "WTF makes you think Obama has any use for a washed up, soon to be retired governor, with the lowest approval rating out of any politician in America?"
I suspect Blogojevich knows about a lot of skeletons in Chicago Democratic closets.
But, hey, I'm willing to wait and see if anything develops. Don't hate me because I find this entertaining.
My question for you. Why did Obama lie today? Or, if he didn't lie today; why did his spokesman lie on November 23rd? Does anyone believe the President-elect wouldn't have conversations with a Democrat Governor over who his replacement would be?
Calm down and let's see what happens.
Please show us the connections between the case against the governor and the alleged investigation concerning Obama's property.
My bad, it's a separate investigation. Sue me.
i'm sorry to hear that, yoni. are you sure there's no way to connect the two?
Magic Bus. Beep beep!
Obama's getting pretty good at denying any contact whatsoever with people known to be close associates.
Flashback: Among his many sudden "I don't even know that guy" claims-- Franklin Raines. And fellow communist Mike Klonsky.
Note that Raines is similar to this new claim-- Raines self-reported being an advisor to Obama on economics, the Washington Post reported it and then reported it again. Team Obama did not ask for a correction.
Until Franklin Raines was linked to Fannie Mae and became a liability. At that point, the famously media-patrolling Obama machine objected that Raines original claim, and the Washington Post's two reports, were faulty.
In this case, Axelrod's statement has been on the record for, what, two and half weeks now. Why is Team Obama only now realizing he "misspoke" after 17 days?
Might it be -- see if you can follow me on this; it gets a little complicated -- that Axelrod didn't misspeak at all, and hence no correction, until now, when Blago's arrested, and it suddenly becomes important to claim Axelrod misspoke?
I know that's crazy-talk. Just throwing it out there.
Obama and Blago's Connections:
Obama Advised Blagojevich On His Victorious Gubernatorial Run. “That year, [Obama] gained his first high-level experience in a statewide campaign when he advised the victorious gubernatorial candidate Rod Blagojevich, another politician with a funny name and a message of reform.” (Ryan Lizza, “Making It,” The New Yorker, 7/21/08)
Obama: “If the governor asks me to work on his behalf, I’ll be happy to do it.” (John Patterson, “Senator Says He’s Still Willing To Help Blagojevich Despite Hiring Concerns,” Chicago Daily Herald, 7/27/06)
Obama Endorsed Blagojevich For A Second Term. “Obama, who endorsed Blagojevich for a second term nearly 18 months ago, said he’s ready to help Illinois democrats in the upcoming elections.” (John Patterson, “Senator Says He’s Still Willing To Help Blagojevich Despite Hiring Concerns,” Chicago Daily Herald, 7/27/06)
Obama: “We’ve got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois.” (Deanna Bellandi, “Illinois Democrats Talk Unity But Don’t Show It,” The Associated Press, 8/16/06)
None that I know of, yet.
Surely this will keep Obama from being elected a month ago.
1 down 540546456456464 political officials to go.
There's mad rumblings starting out of Chicago that Rahm Emmanuel (Obama's Chief of Staff) was the whistleblower that started this whole investigation.
I question the timing.
Yoni is turning into Ducks
What did I know and when did I know it?
Axelrod "misspeaking"
Look, Obama has been a loyal soldier in the Democrats' corrupt Cook County machine. Obama's first statewide campaign was as an adviser to Blagojevich. He endorsed Blagojevich for re-election and offered to campaign for him. In August 2006, the Associated Press quoted Obama saying, "We've got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois."
No doubt Obama would now say -- for the umpteenth time -- that the Rod Blagojevich who tried to sell his vacant Senate seat "isn't the Rod Blagojevich I knew." Maybe it's time to take notice of the fact that Barack Obama is either 1) an astonishingly poor judge of character, or 2) a politician who swims comfortably and successfully in what must be America's most corrupt and vile cesspool of politics.
This is, apparently, the "change" that millions of Americans voted for.
Okay, y'all Dems have to admit, the whole 'misspoke' thing is pretty funny.
What more than likely happened is like ballijuana said and someone like Rahm nailed this guy's ass when he wouldn't play ball with Team Obama.
It will all get swept under the rug though, after all, Axelrod just 'misspoke'.
You are an idiot Yoni.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/us...o.html?_r=1&hp
Obama’s Intervention Indirectly Led to Case
In a sequence of events that neatly captures the contradictions of Barack Obama's rise through Illinois politics, a phone call he made three months ago to urge passage of a state ethics bill indirectly contributed to the downfall of a fellow Democrat he twice supported, Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich.
Mr. Obama placed the call to his political mentor, Emil Jones Jr., president of the Illinois Senate. Mr. Jones was a critic of the legislation, which sought to curb the influence of money in politics, as was Mr. Blagojevich, who had vetoed it. But after the call from Mr. Obama, the Senate overrode the veto, prompting the governor to press state contractors for campaign contributions before the law's restrictions could take effect on Jan. 1, prosecutors say.
Tipped off to Mr. Blagojevich's efforts, federal agents obtained wiretaps for his phones and eventually overheard what they say was scheming by the governor to profit from his appointment of a successor to the United States Senate seat being vacated by President-elect Obama. One official whose name has long been mentioned in Chicago political circles as a potential successor is Mr. Jones, a machine politician who was viewed as a roadblock to ethics reform but is friendly with Mr. Obama.
I think Jones is going to be "Candidate 5" In up to his neck.
This is far from over.
I bet he gets thrown under the bus, as well...
Staying tuned.
Last edited by Yonivore; 12-10-2008 at 01:07 AM.
Is the first 'I'm going to get Obama anyway I can' investigations? Yoni is still playing the gotcha game. So I guess if Obama had actually recieved a congratulatoy call from Blogeivahsdgrn on his win then Obama would actually be lieing because he did in fact talk to the Gov.'s office..After he just said he had no contact with him... How long will whannity this story?
Anybody with any common sense knows that the whackoid right will play this up for all it is worth. It is their turn to drag a Democratic president down as far as they can after having to put up with the same with Bush for 8 years. They are drooling over the possibility.Is the first 'I'm going to get Obama anyway I can' investigations? Yoni is still playing the gotcha game. So I guess if Obama had actually recieved a congratulatoy call from Blogeivahsdgrn on his win then Obama would actually be lieing because he did in fact talk to the Gov.'s office..
Somehow though, I doubt we will ever see a former horse show judge in charge of FEMA in the Obama administration, so it looks like they will have their work cut out for them.
I, for one, will be part of the "either support our president or get the f*** out crowd", because the irony of saying that to the whackoid right is just too delicious for me to pass up. I am weak that way.
Analysis: Scandal threatens to dog Obama
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer Liz Sidoti, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 32 mins ago
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WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama hasn't even stepped into office and already a scandal is threatening to dog him.
Obama isn't accused of anything. But the fact that Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a fellow Democrat, has been charged with trying to sell Obama's now-vacant Senate post gives political opponents an opening to try to link him to the scandal. A slew of questions remain. The investigation is still under way. And the ultimate impact on Obama is far from certain.
He pointedly distanced himself from the case Tuesday, saying, "I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening" concerning any possible dealing about Blagojevich's appointment of a successor.
In Chicago, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said prosecutors were making no allegations that Obama was aware of any scheming. And Blagojevich himself, in taped conversations cited by prosecutors, suggested that Obama wouldn't be helpful to him. Even if the governor was to appoint a candidate favored by the Obama team, Blagojevich said, "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation."
Republicans pounced nonetheless.
"The serious nature of the crimes listed by federal prosecutors raises questions about the interaction with Gov. Blagojevich, President-elect Obama and other high ranking officials who will be working for the future president," said Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the new GOP House whip.
Added Robert M. "Mike" Duncan, chairman of the Republican National Committee, "President-elect Barack Obama's comments on the matter are insufficient at best."
Robert Gibbs, an Obama spokesman, said, "We did not know about this recent part of the investigation until today."
The two Illinois politicians have never been especially close and have largely operated in different Democratic Party camps in the state. Blagojevich's disdain for Obama was clear in court do ents; he is quoted as calling the president-elect a vulgar term in one phone conversation recorded by the FBI.
Despite all that, at the very least, the episode amounts to a distraction for Obama just six weeks before he's sworn into office while he works to set up his new administration and deal with a national economic crisis. It also raises the specter of notorious Chicago politics, an image Obama has tried to distance himself from during his career.
In court do ents, FBI Special Agent Daniel Cain detailed several phone calls between Blagojevich and his aides that were intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the past month. Blagojevich is accused of conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat for personal benefits for himself and his wife, Patti. Among his alleged desires: a Cabinet post, placement at a private foundation in a significant position, campaign contributions or an ambassadorship.
There were signs the continuing investigation could still involve Obama.
It appears that Obama friend Valerie Jarrett, an incoming senior White House adviser, is the person referred to repeatedly in court do ents as "Candidate 1." That individual is described as a woman who is "an adviser to the president-elect" and as the person Obama wanted appointed to the Senate seat. Court papers say that Candidate 1 eventually removed herself from consideration for the Senate seat.
Blagojevich talked at length about Candidate 1 in a Nov. 11 phone conversation with an aide.
One day later, Jarrett, a Chicago businesswoman who is one of three co-chairmen of Obama's transition team and was a high-level adviser to his presidential campaign, made it known that she was not interested in the seat. On Nov. 15, Obama announced that Jarrett would be a senior White House adviser and assistant for intergovernmental relations.
Obama's circle of major Illinois political allies and supporters is largely separate from Blagojevich's, with two major exceptions. Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is awaiting sentencing after being convicted in June on charges of using clout with Blagojevich's administration to help launch a $7 million kickback scheme. And Obama is close to Illinois Senate President Emil Jones, who has been the governor's staunchest legislative ally.
At least one top aide to Obama, Michael Strautmanis, previously worked for Blagojevich. Obama has appointed Strautmanis to serve as White House chief of staff to the presidential assistant for intergovernmental relations and public liaison. The Chicago native was legislative director and counsel to Blagojevich when the governor was a member of Congress and then helped Blagojevich win the governorship in 2002. There is no indication that Strautmanis is involved in the case.
More details on the case could be forthcoming.
Court do ents say they don't include all calls dealing with the governor's efforts regarding the Senate appointment. And many people in the do ents are referred to by aliases; there's little doubt their iden ies will eventually surface.
I stocked up last night!
I'm glad to see your supporting your President elect.
I stocked up last night!
He's not that until December 18. And, if he's dirty, I'd like for it to be discovered before then. Otherwise, we're probably in for another 4 or 8 years of Whitewateresque crap.
For some reason I am anticipating thatYoni and his ilk will be on an 8 yr fishing expedition...
The fishing may be good and the pond seems shallow.
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