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  1. #76
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    , I don't care what the nature of the work is. Either you work and put effort into that work, or you don't work, period. If you can't work, then get the out of my way, because I have one purpose when I get to work. Know what it is?

















    WORK.
    You're looking at this the wrong way. A lot of work environments are just high school all over again, and the quality of your work there gets you nowhere. If you want to get to the top, be prepared to kiss a lot of the bottom... or try to find a job with a company that's looking for more than warm bodies.

  2. #77
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    My 2 cents:
    it is alright for women to do this if they have big s or a nice donk, otherwise they need to get there flat asses to work

  3. #78
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    just kidding, but yeah women tend to waste time yapping but at the same time we waste time doing absolutely nothing

  4. #79
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    You know, pimps solved this whole problem a long time ago.

  5. #80
    Spurs are Lottery Bound. SequSpur's Avatar
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    where i work, no one takes a break and , me and some other dude are like the only ones that take a lunch hours cough cough.. hour...

    but i can understand you get a few beyotches together and falls apart.. .lol

  6. #81
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    Im the boss. No one slacks, period.

    Plenty of applications sitting in the desk of people who want your job. I dont care what your personal situation is or what emotional problems youre experiencing. Old saying my dad used to say about his employer. "I didnt hire your car, I didnt hire your wife and I didnt hire your kids. I hired you."

    one job up, one time, youre fired. Miss work on a day I absolutely needed you, youre fired.

    Short of an emergency (they do happen), I pay you to be here on time and to work until you leave. Anything short of that and youre fired.

    Otherwise, I'm a pretty understanding guy. Small talk about some sports here and there with some guys, some gun talk to with one in particular to let them know I do give a and create a good working enviroment.

    But those conversations last far less than 5 mins at a time. Not everyday either.

    I am posting from work right now. When you...

    * Attract new customers
    * Sit in endless meetings about potential work
    * Quote said work
    * Process that work for production ( draw in solidworks/AutoCAD, then write the inspection program in PowerINSPECT)
    * Support that work with the customer (constant Gantt Charts, phone calls and emails)
    * Support your staff (expectations, job sheets, d-dates, answer endless production questions)
    * Invoice and ship the work
    * Do payroll
    * Pay the payroll taxes (weekly)
    * Pay the other taxes (SBT, property, end-of-year)
    * Pay your vendors and suppliers
    * Sit in bank meetings trying to aquire capital for future work
    * Work somewhere between 60-80 hours a week
    * Deal with the day to day nonsense at any workplace as the last voice of authority on any disputed issue

    ...then I'll give a what you have to say about my posting here during work hours. I quite literally receive my personal mail at my work address.

    A lot of you dont know what work really is and like to question your management/ownership. I was exactly like you for many years, until I sat (sit) in the big chair. No one complains to me and I laugh when 45 year old men/women try to somehow criticize me. I allow it, to a point.

    Then I pull them in for a tour of my life and they STFU while driving to their kids dance recital/parent teacher conference/doctors appointment/parents anniversary/wtf-ever.

    Its the real reason I never post in these "complain about work" threads. The OP in this thread has it alllllllll correct and is exactly what I want in an employee. Low maintenance, minds his/her own business, works diligently.

    The problem with you employees who like to socialize about your personal lives is that you folks tend to get attached to one another and when goes wrong or you have some work-related conflict, that personal business you were oh-so-willing to share comes flying back in your face. Now a simple work related difference has escalated into personal attacks. Feelings are hurt, relationships are broken and more importantly, I have to get involved like I'm the ing high school principal for grown adults almost twice my age because productivity has dropped due to one or more idiots not liking each other today.

    /rant

    Soooo.....I feel better. Maybe this thread stuff works.

  7. #82
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    ^See, this is what being a Lions fan does to you.

  8. #83
    One for the Thumb
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    Im the boss. No one slacks, period.

    Plenty of applications sitting in the desk of people who want your job. I dont care what your personal situation is or what emotional problems youre experiencing. Old saying my dad used to say about his employer. "I didnt hire your car, I didnt hire your wife and I didnt hire your kids. I hired you."

    one job up, one time, youre fired. Miss work on a day I absolutely needed you, youre fired.

    Short of an emergency (they do happen), I pay you to be here on time and to work until you leave. Anything short of that and youre fired.

    Otherwise, I'm a pretty understanding guy. Small talk about some sports here and there with some guys, some gun talk to with one in particular to let them know I do give a and create a good working enviroment.

    But those conversations last far less than 5 mins at a time. Not everyday either.

    I am posting from work right now. When you...

    * Attract new customers
    * Sit in endless meetings about potential work
    * Quote said work
    * Process that work for production ( draw in solidworks/AutoCAD, then write the inspection program in PowerINSPECT)
    * Support that work with the customer (constant Gantt Charts, phone calls and emails)
    * Support your staff (expectations, job sheets, d-dates, answer endless production questions)
    * Invoice and ship the work
    * Do payroll
    * Pay the payroll taxes (weekly)
    * Pay the other taxes (SBT, property, end-of-year)
    * Pay your vendors and suppliers
    * Sit in bank meetings trying to aquire capital for future work
    * Work somewhere between 60-80 hours a week
    * Deal with the day to day nonsense at any workplace as the last voice of authority on any disputed issue

    ...then I'll give a what you have to say about my posting here during work hours. I quite literally receive my personal mail at my work address.

    A lot of you dont know what work really is and like to question your management/ownership. I was exactly like you for many years, until I sat (sit) in the big chair. No one complains to me and I laugh when 45 year old men/women try to somehow criticize me. I allow it, to a point.

    Then I pull them in for a tour of my life and they STFU while driving to their kids dance recital/parent teacher conference/doctors appointment/parents anniversary/wtf-ever.

    Its the real reason I never post in these "complain about work" threads. The OP in this thread has it alllllllll correct and is exactly what I want in an employee. Low maintenance, minds his/her own business, works diligently.

    The problem with you employees who like to socialize about your personal lives is that you folks tend to get attached to one another and when goes wrong or you have some work-related conflict, that personal business you were oh-so-willing to share comes flying back in your face. Now a simple work related difference has escalated into personal attacks. Feelings are hurt, relationships are broken and more importantly, I have to get involved like I'm the ing high school principal for grown adults almost twice my age because productivity has dropped due to one or more idiots not liking each other today.

    /rant

    Soooo.....I feel better. Maybe this thread stuff works.
    Ah, someone that finally understands. And please remember, I'm just venting/ranting, if you look at my history of posts I don't do this type of thing hardly ever, unless I'm dealing with jgw and his dumb ass on the college sports board.

  9. #84
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    If you own the company, you run it however you want, and the people who work there need to conduct themselves in the manner you want. Not everyone runs their business that way, and workers who do not like the other environment need to realize those bosses get to run things their own way, too.

    And before you yell at me, I am someone who works harder than anyone else I ever work with. It is why I have never, ever wanted to go into management of other employees or owned a business because all my employees would piss me off.

  10. #85
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    Be careful what you ask for...there's nothing in this world that sucks worse than working with a bunch of women that are by the book and take their job seriously.

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    Be careful what you ask for...there's nothing in this world that sucks worse than working with a bunch of women that are by the book and take their job seriously.
    That is why I pondered at the beginning of this thread as to what the nature of the job of these annoying women is. Many, many women work hard to become well-educated and take their jobs very seriously. Oftentimes the serious women are the hardest workers of all.

  12. #87
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Dark Reign-

    If you own the company, you run it however you want, and the people who work there need to conduct themselves in the manner you want. Not everyone runs their business that way, and workers who do not like the other environment need to realize those bosses get to run things their own way, too.
    I could not agree more. Re-reading my rant, it makes it sound like I am an asshole, when I am the furthest thing from it. The real reason I dont have to be an asshole 24/7 is because I thinned the herd when I took this position.

    Drama queens (male and female), repeated iness, missing work, constant personal problems that interfere with work....all those people were terminated.

    I kept the best workers and the most experienced. Those 3-5 guys are my core and teach everyone else who walks thru the door about what is expected here. I hired young people with young families and tried to intergrate them into the real working world, not the McDonalds/food service they were used to.

    That was 6 years ago. 2 of them are now licensed welders who are currently going to school for their journeyman cards. 5-6 of them are some of my best prototype producers. They all have kids, theyre all unmarried and under 25. They work everyday except Sunday and even that isnt a guarantee these days.

    In short, I have an excellent/marvelous/low maintenance/high productivity crew who come to work to work. Theyre young, motivated and willing to learn and more importantly willing to admit when they need help.

    It wasnt this way when I took over. It was sloppy, to say the least.

    Anyway, doesnt really matter anymore. If we're still in business at the end of 2009, all my prayers would have been answered.

    And before you yell at me, I am someone who works harder than anyone else I ever work with. It is why I have never, ever wanted to go into management of other employees or owned a business because all my employees would piss me off.
    , I wasnt going to "yell" at you. Youre a human being with an opinion, if it conflicts with mine, I'll respect that.

    That was more or less a general rant that was for me, personally. I felt better after writing that.

    Yes, employees piss you off. But that isnt the hard part of the job.

    The hard part is $$$. <-- That will make you bald by 28 years old. That will put gray hairs in what remains. That will be the one looming problem, day in and day out.

    I find myself asking nearly every week...

    "Soooo, what miracle am I going to pull this week trying to make payroll?"

    Thats the side of things employees never see, that I never saw. No matter what happens in the near future, I'll never own my own business/work for myself ever again. This isnt worth it. I'll be dead by 54, just like my dad.

    Yay.

  13. #88
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    You know, the most disappointing thing about my position is that, even though you give your all and more, that youre relatively good at what you do (if I do say so, myself), no matter your best efforts, there are things outside your control.

    You can be the best damn General Manager in the world and it wouldnt make a bit of difference in this business (auto). Especially in this state (8 year recession and counting).

    Thats the worst part. That I may be doing all this to only end up in failure. But you cant be afraid of failure, now can you?

    Anyway, Im out.

  14. #89
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Be careful what you ask for...there's nothing in this world that sucks worse than working with a bunch of women that are by the book and take their job seriously.


    I honestly wouldnt know.

  15. #90
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    I went through a divorce and for the most part nobody there knew about it. And yes it was pretty traumatic for me. So I grabbed some of my paid time off on days when I needed to deal with it.
    When I was at work it was to work. Do I goof off? yeah probably more than others, but looking at my numbers I also do more than others.
    I also don't agree that you can only worry about yourseld and not others. If the other person/people are pulling their weight then yeah it's fine but if you are getting more work dumped on you because others aren't finishing theirs then it becomes your problem.
    Well group work like that I agree with. You def want the others to contribute equally, I was thinking more of a job setting where your work is your work, and not sombody elses if you don't finish it. That can get annoying. I was also just trying to relate this to my life. O and thats great that you were able to get time off and recover from your divorce, but I know that I actually like to work or go to school to take my mind off the crappy things that are going on in my life. I think its just people are different. Some are all work no play, and others find that having a little slacking time is beneficial to them in the workplace. But I also see where why you would think, "If I'm working hard, ther others should to"

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