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    Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich is only the latest crooked politician and crooked CEO to face the music thanks to the white collar prosecution of this administration.

    A little worm named Greg Smith wrote this snark in the New York Daily News on July 14, 2002:

    “Chances are, if you’re an executive at Adelphia, AllFirst, Enron, ImClone, Qwest, Republic Securities, Rite Aid or WorldCom — all of which are under active investigation — you probably won’t do any prison time.”
    Wrong.

    Greg Smith was wrong, wrong wrong.

    Every one of those SOBs went to prison thanks to the administration of George Walker Bush.

    Every one.

    But Smith did report:

    “From 1992-2001, a paltry 14% of the 609 cases tagged by the Securities and Exchange Commission for criminal prosecution involved defendants who wound up behind bars, the SEC says.”
    That would be President Clinton’s approach to corporate corruption, which was about as effective as his approach to prosecuting terrorism cases.

    But hey the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose and that’s all that matters, right?

    Under Janet Reno, Justice was harsher on 6-year-old Cubans than it was CEO crooks.

    Under Bush, 100% of Smith’s list went to prison:

    John Rigas, 15 years.

    John Rusnak, 7 1/2.

    Ken Lay, died in prison before he served.

    Jeff Skilling, 24 years.

    Sam Waksal, 7 years.

    Joe Nacchio, 6 years.

    Martin Armstrong, 5 years.

    Martin Grass, 8 years.

    Bernard Ebbers, 25 years.

    Those are all non-violent crimes. Anyone want to argue that only violent criminals should be imprisoned or that Bush is anything other than an honest, decent, law-abiding man?

    Republican politicians like Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and George Ryan were given a number and sent to prison.

    Now it is this miscreant’s turn.

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    So when are you going to be prosecuted for stealing Don Surber's intellectual property?

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    Bush is anything other than an honest, decent, law-abiding man?

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    Examples of dishonesty, indecency, or law-breaking?

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    "evidence used to start the war in Iraq was deliberately misleading".

    that should cover all three.

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    "evidence used to start the war in Iraq was deliberately misleading".

    that should cover all three.
    Misleading? As determined by who?

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    Examples of dishonesty, indecency, or law-breaking?
    dishonesty
    - going to war in Iraq to stop a threat that came from a Saudi
    - can you say WMD's?
    - can you say "mission accomplished"

    indecency
    - tapping the phone lines of Americans
    - dis-obeying the cons ution(patriot act) in the name of "national security"
    - ignoring the situation in darfur, georgia (you can't play world police in one region and not pretend to do the same all over)
    - no child left behind (a system rewarding teaching to a test and not on educational merit)
    - allowing his vp to say that he's above the cons ution("not executive or legislative")
    - doing nothing for 7 min as the country was being attacked

    law-breaking
    - pardoning Libby
    - gitmo, and the other hidden CIA prisons...
    - waterboarding




    want more?

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    by the guys on the inside. you know who they are. it's ok, you can say the names. we already know.

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    Misleading? As determined by who?

    do you really not remember that the supposed real reason for the war was the supposed WMD's?

    did we find any?

    do you not remember how he sent powell before the UN and gave that plea?

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    do you really not remember that the supposed real reason for the war was the supposed WMD's?

    did we find any?

    do you not remember how he sent powell before the UN and gave that plea?
    Actually, I remember a whole Resolution passed by the United States Congress that listed several reasons the President was authorized to use military force against Iraq. WMD's were just one of them.

    By the way, who in March of 2003 believed Saddam Hussein did not have WMD's in Iraq?

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    By the way, who in March of 2003 believed Saddam Hussein did not have WMD's in Iraq?
    i knew the moment they trotted out that grade school animation of mobile weapons labs.

    when did you come around?

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    i knew the moment they trotted out that grade school animation of mobile weapons labs.

    when did you come around?
    Okay, smartass...name a leading world figure, head of state, or Democrat that did not believe Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction in March of 2003.

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    Actually, I remember a whole Resolution passed by the United States Congress that listed several reasons the President was authorized to use military force against Iraq. WMD's were just one of them.

    By the way, who in March of 2003 believed Saddam Hussein did not have WMD's in Iraq?
    but WMD's were the main reason....
    if saddam did shouldn't have mattered until the Bush family friend Bin Laden was caught, we should not have lost focus.....even if saddam was a "bad guy" that really should have been put on the back burner until justice was served, the guy may have been evil, but he had a secular nation of muslims, something that we haven't since been able to do...so now not only did we not get the extremist that we set out to, but we also created more...thanks mr bush, hope that house in north dallas can also be used as a holding cell...

    anyways if he was such a corporate avenger, would he have been able to stop the speculators who drove the price of oil? or the ones who sold bad mortgage securities? too bad his henchwoman mary beth Buchanan is too focused on stopping chong from marketing glass to stop real criminals...

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    but WMD's were the main reason....
    if saddam did shouldn't have mattered until the Bush family friend Bin Laden was caught, we should not have lost focus.....even if saddam was a "bad guy" that really should have been put on the back burner until justice was served, the guy may have been evil, but he had a secular nation of muslims, something that we haven't since been able to do...so now not only did we not get the extremist that we set out to, but we also created more...thanks mr bush, hope that house in north dallas can also be used as a holding cell...

    anyways if he was such a corporate avenger, would he have been able to stop the speculators who drove the price of oil? or the ones who sold bad mortgage securities? too bad his henchwoman mary beth Buchanan is too focused on stopping chong from marketing glass to stop real criminals...
    Where did Musab al Zarqawi take al Qaeda after we attacked Afghanistan?

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    Okay, smartass...name a leading world figure, head of state, or Democrat that did not believe Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction in March of 2003.
    thats your problem right there, yoni.

    at that time, being a world figure that disagreed with bush would find themselves in a bad place.

    if i were a world figure back them, i would have politely asked bush to give something that looked remotely similar to evidence.

    not something a kid threw together while he was reading "My pet goat".

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    thats your problem right there, yoni.

    at that time, being a world figure that disagreed with bush would find themselves in a bad place.

    if i were a world figure back them, i would have politely asked bush to give something that looked remotely similar to evidence.

    not something a kid threw together while he was reading "My pet goat".
    That's bull , that Saddam Hussein had WMD's was conventional wisdom in every western nation and by every western intelligence agency from the Clinton administration forward -- particularly after 1998.

    You are full of crap. No one's opinion on Hussein's possession of WMD's changed from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration -- right up until President Bush decided to invade.

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    That's bull , that Saddam Hussein had WMD's was conventional wisdom in every western nation and by every western intelligence agency from the Clinton administration forward -- particularly after 1998.

    You are full of crap. No one's opinion on Hussein's possession of WMD's changed from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration -- right up until President Bush decided to invade.
    thanks for providing more evidence of your personal problem.

    you desperately need them to lead you.

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    thanks for providing more evidence of your personal problem.

    you desperately need them to lead you.
    And your argument is based on your characterization of what you saw on television?

    Nice.

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    And your argument is based on your characterization of what you saw on television?

    Nice.
    appalling isn't it, all the fools that were suckered with so little effort.

    do you feel dirty because you were one of them?

    it's ok. you weren't alone. sure, there is a certain amount of shame associated with it. in time, it will wear off.

    unless you keep the delusion alive.

    then you will carry it forever. you can cast it away now, yoni. the truth has been revealed.

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    appalling isn't it, all the fools that were suckered with so little effort.

    do you feel dirty because you were one of them?

    it's ok. you weren't alone. sure, there is a certain amount of shame associated with it. in time, it will wear off.

    unless you keep the delusion alive.

    then you will carry it forever. you can cast it away now, yoni. the truth has been revealed.
    So, you're actually claiming you knew better than all the western governments and their intelligence agencies? Including the British who, to this day, claim to have independent evidence that Hussein was trying to acquire yellow cake uranium?

    On what do you base your conclusion?

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    I hope they bust the guilty parties

    I wonder if Obama will switch the federal prosecutors mid-case...
    If he fires Fitzgerald, he's screwed and he knows it. He's just going to have to hope for the best.

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    So, you're actually claiming you knew better than all the western governments and their intelligence agencies?
    yes. that was all it took. you see, yoni, there was nothing intelligent about that production.
    Including the British who, to this day, claim to have independent evidence that Hussein was trying to acquire yellow cake uranium?
    i'd make it up like a grade school animation. worked the first time.

    On what do you base your conclusion?
    on the best intelligence gathering agencies that created instead of provided.

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    ...on the best intelligence gathering agencies that created instead of provided.
    Huh? And, which are those?

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    Huh? And, which are those?
    you don't like the freeworlds intelligence gathering agencies?

    oh, i get it! you think the people responsible for gathering the evidence for war WERE those grade school animators.

    maybe you're right.

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