All recruited by wealthy terrorist leaders such as those that run Hamas and Fatah and the PLO.
Sorry, just because the wealthy and educated terrorist are able to dupe useful idiots into doing their bidding doesn't prove your point.
Agreed. You are a good example.
They don't target Judeo-Christian societies because of some perceived "oppression", they target them because people from these societies are infidels, the "great satan". If they wanted to attack "oppressors", they'd be attacking the leaders of their own countries. Did you know what the entire Arab world has a GDP less than that of Spain? Think about that.
Guys like Zawahiri started out trying to overthrow the government of their own countries; he was held for involvement in the Sadat assassination.
You think it had anything to do with Sadat's Sinai treaty with Israel?
You can kill a man.
You can kill an army.
But you cant
kill
terror
So, of course, you have a solution.
Maybe. Or maybe he hated his government because it functions the same way most governments function in the Middle East--by protecting the extreme concentration of oil money in the hands of a few elite families.
If you think most of these governments treat their people well, you'd be surprised to hear about some of the exploitation that goes on internally in those countries.
I think it would be naive to believe there is no fault to be found with regard to US oil companies, but the level of responsibility is hard to really guess.
Unfortunately, a lot of people in the Arab world think it is mainly the fault of US oil companies, and so they distrust and hate America.
A lot of terrorists have tried to disrupt their local governments, the Muslim Brotherhood has been trying to dissolve the Egyptian state for years, but the state doesn't mind blatantly cracking down on them, and the war on terror seems to have supercharged what was already a system sponsoring the liberal application of torture.
That certainly didn't help, but Zawahiri had been a member of radical Islamic groups bent on overthrowing the Egyptian government since the mid 1960s.
Pick up The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright. It should be required reading now.
I'll pick up a copy.
Between finishing your Masters in Girderology and reading every known scientific publication on the strength of girders I never would imagine you'd have time to read something else.
Actually the more I think about this issue, the more I just don't care what motivates terrorists.
If someone invades my home and is bent on doing harm to my family, I don't care if they had a bad childhood, they're crazed on meth, or they're religious psychopaths, they are going to meet their maker. I might even through in a few water boardings for good measure.
Landslide Victory!
I never would imagine you read anything resembling a book.
I only read spurstalk
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
nvmnd, I was just trying to quote myself for extra stout's thread
And the moment anyone invades your home, feel free to do so. Of course, that doesn't have much to do with what we're talking about here, or the fact that some innocent people may be mixed in with the terrorists at GTMO.
May be? , what about the Uighurs? Their classification as unlawful combatants was thrown out, but that was after we had already "softened them up" for Chinese interrogators at Gitmo.
Yes, but you have to remember who we're talking to here Winehole. We have to take baby steps.
What's coming out of Mexico will be the next big thing.
Be it 20 million new Demoncat voters that will solidify a one party system or the ruthless crime slowly creeping out from the border.
Isn't this Al Qaeda's position?
Oh wait, I'm sorry I forgot they only hate us because we're free.
Those 20 millions will have to get citizenship first.
Also, if you're worried about the crime creeping across the border, why not stop the flow of guns from here? Or better yet, wreck the business model of the drug cartels by legalizing (and taxing) their commodities, and America's super-sized drug demand.
If you understand what motivates them, you can prevent them from recruiting new ones.
This is roughly analogous to not caring how cancer is spread and simply operating to remove tumors when the pop up.
Preventing new tumors and knowing about the mechanics of how and why they form in the first place lets you avoid cancer in the first place.
Understanding their motivation is actually more important than killing them. I don't mean this in a touchy feely way, because I don't empathize with them and still think they are s bags, but ...
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