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Great trade. Still need to sort a lot of things out (like the entire defensive side of the ball) but this actually gives them the talent. Don't ignore Dudley. Dudley will be important if the Suns are to make any noise.
I wouldn't.
Great trade. Still need to sort a lot of things out (like the entire defensive side of the ball) but this actually gives them the talent. Don't ignore Dudley. Dudley will be important if the Suns are to make any noise.
Did you forget about the trade for Shaq?I don't think anything could be that bad.
Wow... brilliant move...:
i'd like dudley in the spurs uniform, he's a very hardworking guy. we have to avoid jumping into conclusions,that this trade is good or bad for the suns. let's wait and see how it would turn out. look what happened to our game with dallas yesterday. much has been said about the inability of kidd to score. also, devin harris was traded, so parker won't have a hard time-barea almost single-handedly destroyed the spurs..
I actually think it was a good trade for the Suns. Raja Bell is washed up. He declined last year but declined even further this year. He was no longer an elite defender. He was actually very average this season on the defensive end. Diaw is decent but his lack of fire makes me question how much winning means to him.
JRich isn't that good of a defender ... but neither was Bell these days. Richardson can get extremely hot and can hit big shots. He also makes the Suns an even better rebounding team. Dudley is like Diaw with less size and talent but more heart.
Kerr is a pretty damn horrible GM but this was a no-brainer. A former defensive stopper in a steep, steep decline and a backup big who didn't always bring it for a guy who is close to an All-Star level player and a better than decent prospect? Uh yeah you do that trade every day.
Richardson seems like a guy that would thrive with Nash feeding him the rock. The one that has to be pissed about this is Stoudemire, because this guy is going to take a bunch of shots to make his points....and more shots for J-Rich means less shots for Amare.
dont forget to add diaws dumb contract, but other than that i agree with everything, obviously someone seen suns games this year to notice that about bell
I'm puzzled by this deal for the Bobcats...
They needed size in the frontcourt, but Diaw really isn't that much bigger than Dudley. And they gave up a legitimate scorer to boot.
I guess they had seen the good returns from both Augustin and Felton...and they wanted more court time and shots for both. This should effectively accomplish that goal.
I agree with this. Amare, you wanted to be the Man???? well guess what, we just added a chuker to the team to give you less shots
I'm sorry but adding a selfish chucker toa team with players like Stoudamire and Shaq is a recipe for disaster.
They weren't winning anything with the group they had. Adding JRich for free is a no-brainer. If he plays the role he did in '07 against the Mavs, the Suns are going to be dangerous again.
this guys knw, good cuz if i say it just look like im saying it cuz i like the team. what were we winning with them??? nada
I would not quite call that free. who is going to guard Manu now?????
don't tell me Bell sucked enough not so slow down manu. u know that is not true
i already posted my gut reaction that this looked good for the Suns, now with more reflection it's a great deal for the Suns.
The Suns biggest problem against the Spurs in the 1st round that year (and against any team really) was that no one other than Steve Nash wanted to take big shots in crunch time. The Suns haven't had guys willing to take (and risk missing of course) big-time shots other than Nash since Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson.
Go back and review the tapes of the end of games during the close contests in that series.
There were sequences where Diaw and Bell specifically wanted nothing to do with taking a big shot. The game where Diaw was scoring in the post with ease all game long then in the final 2 minutes gets a post up and turns the ball over with a ridiculous pass out. He was flat out scared to shoot. Same with Raja Bell. Amare had moments where he got open for his elbow jumper and tried to drive inside instead and charged against KT. Barbosa is a no-show against the Spurs during regular game-time, in crunch time he wanted to be as far away from the ball as possible.
Richardson isn't scared to take those shots. And he will get good looks at those shots with the Suns.
Sure, call him a chucker, call him selfish and a guy who will take bad shots. But the Suns can't win without guys who want to score, and Diaw and Bell were big-time problems in close games.
Plus, Michael Jordan is on the other end of this trade. Now that Isiah Thomas and Mike Millen are out of sports, Jordan had to take the crown of "Worst GM/head decision maker in all of Sports" away from contenders like McHale.
Have you watched Bell this year? He's done. With his lack of size, he needed his athleticism to stay atop his defensive game. Last year he lost a step athletically and this year he's lost at least another step. Manu or any other star perimeter player would have no problem scoring on him come playoff time.
thank you i keep saying, THESE GUYS OBVIOUSLY HAVENT SEEN BELL this year. Barnes can do the same as him on D
Agree with timvp on this one.
Suns get a great deal. Richardson is a damn good player and they don't give up a lot to get him. Bell was aging and his D was overrated. Diaw was doing quite nothing for them.
They have now a very young bench with Dragic as backup PG and Dudley, Lopez and Amundson as backup PF/C. These young players will have to produce because Suns have nothing else to plug at these spots.
Suns have now only 12 players under contract, they will have to sign another player before one week.
I don't really get why Bobcats did this trade. They don't really save money or upgrade their roster. The only way it could end as a good trade for them is that Diaw play at his true level. He can be significantly better than what he did with Suns lately.
On a side note, Bobcats are Singletary's forth NBA team and he is a rookie.
I just take this oppositely. Bell is really a good defender but the fact is that the suns has never ever had some need for a defender. Jason is just precisely fit for the suns. Absolutely it's a bargain for the suns to get a great scorer only at the expense of an older defender and a foreigner.
Diaw is a pretty good player and his most out-standing talent is that he can play from 1 to 5, but he has never found a position that fits him most.
I just don't have any idea why the did larry brown excute such a trade that sent Jason for these two guys, never to mention dudley and the seacond rounder that were packed with Jason to be sent to Phoenix. Dudley (I'm not sure whether I spell his name correctly or not, correct it if not.) has more potential than Diaw, Jason is currently the best 3 shooter with 45 percent 3pt rate, and the seacond rounder is not a bit less valuable than a first rounder as it is from Bobcats. It's time for the suns to make the last bid as their franchies rosters are aging and expiring. I really wish them to win the le this season and start to rebuild as soon as possible. Shaq's contract will expire this season and he's gonna retire then if he can't recieve a new contract worth more than 10m/yr. Shaq would rather to retire than earn 5 or 6m per year as a role player.
I dont fear this move because this isnt the kind of trade that puts you over. Sure he provides that 2 guard offensive punch but he doesnt really do much else. Hes a great athlete but he doesnt make the team better from any other statistical point.
If Dantoni was still running the show i would fear them more but Nash looks to have REALLY struggled with this new offense and looks like a s of his former self and with the offense continuing to revolve around Shaq and not Nash/Amare, this team will not be a contender.
Also thier team defense still sucks. And when i say sucks. I mean they look completely lost in defensive rotations its embarasing.
J Rich and Amare can pair up and get their shots with 20 point leads or deficits. J Rich is anti clutch.
Its funny how Cavs fans were thinking of trading for a swingman and it looks like 2 just went off the board.
Thank god.
2 more of D'Antoni's smallball dingleberries are gone.
Raja might be the worst starting 2 in the league.....like Majerle was late in his career....living off reputation and without game.
Immediate upgrade there with JRich.
Doris Diaw's long bad contract is the only consistent thing going on in his world.
Plus Kerr didn't have to give away more picks.
Nice trade for us.
WTF are the Bobcats doing?
The Suns may now win 48 games instead of 44 games.
lol yea exactly also great to dump diaws over paid contract
I always liked Diaw, but I'm not sure how much heart he's got. If LB can put some fire him him (or under his ass), he might be a near all-star again with his versatility.
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