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i actually like what Leach had to say...and he was right on about the politics.
He's all mad about Harrell not being invited to NY. They pretty much know the votes. Not being invited means he had no chance and was clearly 4th in the voting. Then he uses stats but for passing yards. But if that were what did it...then Harrell STILL would not be the Heisman. Of course, Bill Walten agrees with Leach....haha....yeah...and ? Let's let Bill Walton vote in the Harris Poll and the Heisman and start being a commentator on Saturday afternoon. I mean, lets let everyone have a say here.
i actually like what Leach had to say...and he was right on about the politics.
Leach is right in everything that he said.
either way though, Harrell wasn't going to win it.
He wasnt going to win it, but Leach was right about it being a politics thing. To say that he is not considered one of the top 4 players in college at this moment, is ridiculous!
Let me hear someone say that it was b/c he lost to OU too......
Leach. This is what he gets for voting OU and Tech ahead of Texas. Maybe he should think and take Visor's out of his ass before he opens his mouth about biases and politics. What a ing hypocritical .
They know the guy who finished 3rd, too, but he got invited to NYC.
And Leach should be infinitely more pissed about Crabtree not getting invited, seeing as how he is far and away the best collegiate football player. Period.
It's because he got curbstomped by OU...and because he's probably not as good as Leach and all the Techies think he is.
please. Did Stoops vote OU ahead of UT? Did Mack vote UT ahead of OU?
that's I thought. don't blame Leach, blame the system. Either that or feel free to stfu
Harrell is a product of the system and Crabtree is on coke.
Leach is, sadly, following the "whine about how life is unfair to my team" trend set forth by Brown and Stoops.
thing is, Leach has a legitimate gripe about something that costs nobody anything but a couple of plane tickets for Harrell and Crabtree.
Brown and Stoops were griping on different matters regarding bowl invitations.
Since Harrell was the top Heisman candidate up until about 3 weeks ago, this is blatantly clear that this is a purposeful snub. We've seen 5 candidates go to NYC time and again. Why not this year?
Makes no sense.
I really don't see what the big deal is. Normally they look and see where the breakdown of votes is and when there is a big drop-off they stop the votes. Last year they had 4, '06 they had 3, '05 they had 3, '04 they had 5. Apparently it was obvious in the vote that the top 3 were who they were and there must have been a definite separation between 3 and 4.
It is a stupid award and I'd be plum happy to see everybody quit putting so much stock into it.
Just call it the "QB for a top 10 team with the best stats" award.
oh really!?
here are Harrell's stats for that curb stomping that you say HE took:
33-55
361yds
60.0% Comp. Per.
34 Lng Pass
3 TD
1 Int
129.50 Rating
So the team got an ass kicking, yes, the Defense (or lack thereof) got embarassed.
Harrell carried his weight. To not include him in Heisman talks, for the loss that he performed well in, is ridiculous.
so stfu, b/c if ANY qb in the country put up those numbers, people would say thats a damn good game.
McCoy is a product of a system too.
6.6 yards per attempt? I can complete 60% of my passes if I'm throwing 5 yard bubble screens all day long. In that same game, Bradford gained about 50 fewer yards on about 40 fewer throws. Harrell racks up the yards, but is no where near as efficient as Bradford or even McCoy.
well Bradford wasn't playing against the OU defense on the road now was he?
sheez. just drop it.
OU's defense is terrible and everyone knows that.
Look, when you throw the ball 50 times a game, you're gonna have gaudy numbers. He's just not as good as you guys think he is.
they are #2 in total defense in the conference, giving up the fewest yards per play: 5.1
and when you throw it 50 times, that means you are completing your passes and moving the chains. His average is 8.4 yards per completion which is basically on par with any other QB in the country other than Bradford.Look, when you throw the ball 50 times a game, you're gonna have gaudy numbers. He's just not as good as you guys think he is.
Nobody is saying the guy is Bradford or even Colt McCoy but he's not as average as you are making him out to be.
When you punch the football across the goalline a total of 48 times, you are doing something right, "system" or not.
Just because its his opinion doesn't make it fact or make him right, or wrong.
I don't have a problem with him sticking up for his player but I think the way he does it comes off whiny, IMO.
One thing I would like to know is how they determine who a finalist is. Some years they invite 4 or 5, some years 3. I would imagine there is a certain number votes that has to be achieved. I seriously doubt they randomly pick who gets to go which is I don't buy the "politics" argument or the "reputation" argument Harrell was going with last night on ESPN radio.
ok, if thats your logic, then McCoy's numbers dont mean either. How many times does he throw the ball down the field!?!? He does the SAME type of little dump offs and screen passes. Maybe not as often, but when you rarely throw the ball over 30 yards down field, you damn well better have a high percentage.
and speaking of McCoy....what were his numbers against OU??....go find them & then we can discuss who was better. And im not talking about who won, thats NOT the discussion, so dont go there.
You mean the game where Colt only threw 7 incomplete passes (vs. Graham's 22 incompletions against the same team...22 incomplete passes), a TD, didn't turn the ball over and averaged about 8 yards per pass vs. about 6 yards per pass.
Harrell is a volume passer. Plain and simple.
he beat texas and lost ou so why shouldent he vote that way
Stoops dosent have a vote he dosent like the system and gave his vote up a few years ago
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