Nah, what it said isn't as important as the fact Obama is mired in this culture and Rezko is talking. I've already gone on record as saying he may come out of all this squeaky clean but, as I said in my post, if there something there it's probably going to be revealed.did you read the article cited? you probably should. I'll wait:
If it isn't Rezko or Blogojevich it could be someone they rat out...
This is far, far, far from over. There are dozens of arrests pending in the current complaint against Blogojevich, alone.
Keep the faith, I guess.Nah, what it said isn't as important as the fact Obama is mired in this culture and Rezko is talking. I've already gone on record as saying he may come out of all this squeaky clean but, as I said in my post, if there something there it's probably going to be revealed.
If it isn't Rezko or Blogojevich it could be someone they rat out...
This is far, far, far from over. There are dozens of arrests pending in the current complaint against Blogojevich, alone.
Okay, I did read it.
Important paragraphs:
Antoin "Tony" Rezko's offer to provide authorities with evidence of others' wrongdoing is "not complete," and prosecutors are working to corroborate the claims he has made so far, the footnote said.Who got Mic e Obama that cushy position Blogojevich was ing about?Prosecutors depicted Rezko at trial as a fixer for Blagojevich and the man to see to secure a high-level appointment with the governor's administration. Rezko had been a longtime fundraiser for Blagojevich and other Illinois politicians, including Obama.
The FBI Special Agent has already said, and did so in the affidavit itself, that he only revealed the facts necessary to file this complaint and secure arrest warrants for Blogojevich and Harris."I should make clear, the complaint makes no allegations about the president-elect whatsoever," Fitzgerald said. "We make no allegations that he's aware of anything, and that's as simply as I can put it. . . .
"There's no reference in the complaint to any conversations involving the president-elect or indicating that the president-elect was aware of it. And that's all I can say."
In that context, Fitzgerald could safely say, "I should make clear, the complaint makes no allegations about the president-elect whatsoever," and "we make no allegations that he's aware of anything..."
It damn sure could and I think whether or not it is likely is dependent on how you parse Fitzgerald's words in the context of what the FBI Agent led his affidavit off with; that he was not revealing all the facts ac ulated in an investigation that's been ongoing since 2003 and centered on more than just a few Obama associates."Could evidence pop up in the future to the contrary? Sure, it's possible. Is it likely? I think that, based on what he said yesterday, the answer is no," Baran added.
So, you were saying?
Sorry, I read and responded. Care to rebut?
well i see that he spoke for his whole team. i hope he's being transparent. i'd hate for him to be proven otherwise. i just wonder who promised "appreciation" as blagojevich said. maybe somebody did "misspoke", but.....err.....not from obama's team.
very transparent.
Yeah, he's already sounding "Clintonesque."
Change and Hope...Hope and Change...yadda yadda yadda.
So nothing about any involvement by Obama at all.Was he the one even contacted about the bribe? Someone sure as reported it in October if not earlier -- one doesn't just stroll up to a judge and obtain successive wiretap warrants for a sitting US governor on a whim. Your partisan baggery has left you devoid of common sense.
Yoni, all you are doing is guessing and praying for a worst case scenario for Obama and the country as a whole. It's really quite disgusting. Why do you hate America? Oh yeah, because McCain lost.
hopefully this isn't Obama's "I......didn't...........have..............sexual. ........relations.............................with that...............woman" moment.
this might be old school but he kinda favors Handy Andy.
Rebut what? A non-accusation? How would I rebut that?
I know, all he's doing is parroting right wing blog innuendo.
He STILL hasn't said what he believes is Obama's involvement. I don't know why he's so scared.
some real star chamber crap if u ask me
So Yoni, how do you think Obama is involved?So no mention of Obama's involvement whatsoever.
oh and,
I know. Funny, ain't it?
Well, it appears the non-accusation was only in reference to the complaint and affidavit against Blogojevich.
That's what I read.
Fitzgerald also said:
You'll notice he's very careful to include "the complaint" when talking about Obama's involvement.
"There's no reference in the complaint..." "The complaint makes no allegations." He's a lawyer and he knows what he's saying. The FBI Agent was just as careful to lead off the affidavit with the disclosure this wasn't all the facts related to the 5 years long investigation, just those necessary to secure this complaint and arrest warrant.
What did you say? Oh yeah, "Keep the faith, I guess."
I'd say Fitzgerald was choosing his words carefully...possibly for a reason. I know the FBI Agent included those paragraphs for a reaons. I think people -- particularly Obamaphiles -- are so eager to see this aborted and conclude that they're not giving actual do ents or words of the prosecutor much scrutiny. They're looking for just what you point out; anything that would seem to exonerate Obama. But, if you take Fitzgerald's statements along with the content of the affidavit, you could easily claim Obama isn't nearly out of the woods yet.
I'm not as magnanimous as Wild Cobra on this. I think he's dirty although, I'm realistic enough to know he could skate and come out of this squeaky clean. I've also been around law enforcement long enough to know the words in such statements as were made by Fitzgerald are carefully chosen; as are the words put in sworn affidavits.
Newspapers and politicians will report and spin it to whatever advantage they see fit and, frankly, neither Fitzgerald nor the FBI Agent are in a position to engage in a debate in the media.
So, yeah, Keep the faith, I guess.
Exonerate him of what?
So he must have also chosen the excerpts from the wiretaps just as carefully -- specifically, the one where Blagojevich says Obama would never give him anything.I'd say Fitzgerald was choosing his words carefully...possibly for a reason.
That makes perfect sense.
if I know what his involvement is. I'd probably have to be as mired in Chicago politics as he is to know that. And, I've already said as much.
In Yoni's mind, his own accusations trump the criminal complaint. Good luck with that, Yoni.
Edit: Good thread btw.
So you answered a question that wasn't asked. Typical.
this is sickening. instead of getting to the truth, people just take sides based on political persuasion. Obama obviously had zero to do with this scandal. However, Rezko could be his kryptonite
Of whatever else the FBI and USAO may be holding -- if, in fact, it implicates wrong-doing by Obama.
What wrong-doing?
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