Game Thoughts: Spurs @ Mavericks Dec. 9

[024]

yeah the spurs need an athletic center. ideally, it would be someone who defenders have to respect and can't just leave him alone to double duncan or switch rotations (oberto). the offense completely goes into disarray when duncan is on the bench because there is no interior presence. defensively it will help as well. i think popovich recognizes the problem because last year he made the trade for kurt thomas in response to gasol and shaq trades. however good kurt thomas may become in the playoffs, i think the spurs are still one good center away from being a contender. kurt thomas and bonner aren't really centers and oberto seems to have created a new position in the NBA as a passer forward. this team cannot turn into a jump shooting team whenever duncan is struggling.

[Ginobilirules]

hey i understand your points, and some are good, but i have to disagree with your analysis, that it would still be epic, especially because a fair portion of our spurs mainstays, with some great firepower in youngblood added this yr to the spurs, plus the way we took the hornets, 4=3 in a great battle of closely leveled teams, except the spurs proved to be 1 notch better than NO, and the that the hornets beat the mavs 4=1, the spurs, no doubt when the stakes are high in the playoffs," the spurs always take their level of toughness , to the highest level therefore, there's no doubt, in my mind if this had been in a best of seven the Spurs will beat the Mavs more like 4-1 much the way the hornets did. you have to remember the mo"" for the spurs is, they don't peak until the playoffs begin and climb from there, they do this every yr too"". the mavs give each team that's huge a good match especially at home, they're similiar to hous, Mil, who do the same thing to great teams, they play up, or down to their compe ions strength. the spurs will dominate the mavs in series, make no mistake about it"' 4-1 we beat the hornets in 7 who beat the mavs in 5, do the math"" and it would most definitely work like too"" the spurs have also, beaten the mavs now in 4 of 6 of the last meetings. think of how the spurs would dominate, and destroy the mavs, in series. i know the mavs would be compe ive no doubt, they just wouldn't be enough defense, smarts, coaching, or firepower to stay with the spurs in a best of seven to make it more than a 5 game series loss to the spurs. they have zero answers for Manu, timmy, or tony, and we have 3 lockdown guys who make dirk struggle on clutch, shots, and give dirk fits"" in mason, bowen, and udoka, even duncan at times will switch to bother dirk with great results, as witnessed in duncan forcing dirk into a 28 foot airball in the second overtime.

[Dex]

hey i understand your points, and some are good, but i have to disagree with your analysis, that it would still be epic, especially because a fair portion of our spurs mainstays, with some great firepower in youngblood added this yr to the spurs, plus the way we took the hornets, 4=3 in a great battle of closely leveled teams, except the spurs proved to be 1 notch better than NO, and the that the hornets beat the mavs 4=1, the spurs, no doubt when the stakes are high in the playoffs," the spurs always take their level of toughness , to the highest level therefore, there's no doubt, in my mind if this had been in a best of seven the Spurs will beat the Mavs more like 4-1 much the way the hornets did. you have to remember the mo"" for the spurs is, they don't peak until the playoffs begin and climb from there, they do this every yr too"". the mavs give each team that's huge a good match especially at home, they're similiar to hous, Mil, who do the same thing to great teams, they play up, or down to their compe ions strength. the spurs will dominate the mavs in series, make no mistake about it"' 4-1 we beat the hornets in 7 who beat the mavs in 5, do the math"" and it would most definitely work like too"" the spurs have also, beaten the mavs now in 4 of 6 of the last meetings. think of how the spurs would dominate, and destroy the mavs, in series. i know the mavs would be compe ive no doubt, they just wouldn't be enough defense, smarts, coaching, or firepower to stay with the spurs in a best of seven to make it more than a 5 game series loss to the spurs. they have zero answers for Manu, timmy, or tony, and we have 3 lockdown guys who make dirk struggle on clutch, shots, and give dirk fits"" in mason, bowen, and udoka, even duncan at times will switch to bother dirk with great results, as witnessed in duncan forcing dirk into a 28 foot airball in the second overtime.

Spacing, capitalization, and punctuation are you friends.

[Ginobilirules]

This isn't English class, this is a sports post remember that also, you didn't pay attention to the facts i posted. don't get distracted by small things, i know how to use my english writing so many of you so-called spurs fans are so very ignorant to true facts, not just opinions here. how pathetic'".

[dougp]

This isn't English class, this is a sports post remember that also, you didn't pay attention to the facts i posted. don't get distracted by small things, i know how to use my english writing so many of you so-called spurs fans are so very ignorant to true facts, not just opinions here. how pathetic'".

Hard to pay attention to something that makes your eyes bleed.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

This isn't English class, this is a sports post remember that also, you didn't pay attention to the facts i posted. don't get distracted by small things, i know how to use my english writing so many of you so-called spurs fans are so very ignorant to true facts, not just opinions here. how pathetic'".

Hard to pay attention to something that makes your eyes bleed.

What he said.

[dougp]

What he said.

Fixed, Mr.Applebottom

[Darkwaters]

Seeing as Presti is proving himself to not be exactly a genius himself, then I doubt it.

Maybe the trick is to combine the two, Presti and Buford, in the old vulcan mind-meld. Perhaps that where the Ginobili and Parker picks came from.

My guess is that the Marcus Williams pick was a result of mistaken iden y when Buford accidently mind-melded with Beno.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fixed, Mr.Applebottom

Whoops, my fault.

[Dex]

This isn't English class, this is a sports post remember that also, you didn't pay attention to the facts i posted. don't get distracted by small things, i know how to use my english writing so many of you so-called spurs fans are so very ignorant to true facts, not just opinions here. how pathetic'".

I didn't even get to the facts you posted because I got one line in and realized you couldn't tell where one sentence starts and the next sentence stops. It's like trying to read one big run-on sentence.

So I, on the other handed, decided to post a random quip and be along my merry way. Thus is the internet.

I'm not here to grade your homework or anything, but you'll be amazed by the better responses you'll get when people can stand to get through your post. The shift key is right there.

[The Truth #6]

I think the only way for Tolliver to play in the playoffs against the Mavs if he's on our roster for several months before that point so Pop can do his mad science experiments with lineup changes to prove what is usually obvious to everyone but him, or maybe he's just bored, who knows.

That said, I'm still not sure Tolliver is good enough to see quality playoff minutes. At this point I'd still rather go with Bonner until Tolliver can prove himself on our roster. I suppose it doesn't matter if Pop is going to go with Finley no matter what.

One possible rationale for starting Manu might be that he doesn't have to be the focus of the offense and penetrate as much with Tony dominating the ball. In that sense, Manu isn't sacrificing his body as much and can play on the outside more. Just a thought.

[Manufan909]

Hard to pay attention to something that makes your eyes bleed.

Raped.

[roycrikside]

For future reference, Ginobili is money in back-to-back games. Over the last three years, he scores more points in back-to-back games than any other situation. He's actually least effective when he has multiple days to rest.

It's somewhat surprising considering the fatigue factor but Manu is such a rhythm player that he's best with as little a break as possible.

I've pointed out the same thing to Ducks before, LJ. They don't listen. We have two regular posters on this board who never, ever bother to look up any facts before talking out of their ass, especially in regards to Manu...

TPark is so ignorant of new school basketball analysis that he'll see a game where Kobe gets 30 points on something like 11/29 shooting and he'll think, "Man Kobe had a great night, 30 points."

[T Park]

I've pointed out the same thing to Ducks before, LJ. They don't listen. We have two regular posters on this board who never, ever bother to look up any facts before talking out of their ass, especially in regards to Manu...

TPark is so ignorant of new school basketball analysis that he'll see a game where Kobe gets 30 points on something like 11/29 shooting and he'll think, "Man Kobe had a great night, 30 points."

Way to talk out of your ass jackass.

I'm an old school Bruce Bowen homer who constantly points at the shots and points being equal as a showing that said player did a great job defensively on that player.


Fail as always.

[roycrikside]

Way to talk out of your ass jackass.

I'm an old school Bruce Bowen homer who constantly points at the shots and points being equal as a showing that said player did a great job defensively on that player.


Fail as always.

Oh please. I don't know how many games I've seen you drool about Tony when he's got his customary 22 points on like 10/19 from the field and 2-4 from the line. Meanwhile Manu will have like 18 on 6/13 and 5-5 from the stripe and we'll be seeing the usual "but he was crap until the 4th quarter" posts.

Manu had 27 pts on 12 shots and you said he was as crappy as Tony for most of the game.

The only defense you'll notice is from Bruce because he literally has no other purpose.

[mystargtr34]

I agree with timvp here. The Mavs, especially with Josh Howard, remain the worst matchup in the league for the Spurs, probably outside of LA.

Dirk turns into Michael Jordan against the Spurs, and Josh Howard into Scottie Pippen and Terry looks like an All-Star. Then against every other team in the league they choke like "amatuer porn stars on a 12-inch ".

I would rather avoid the Mavs in the playoffs, i think we would win that series more times than not, but id say it would go to 7 - the teams are just so evenly matched when they play each other.