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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Stern admits NBA blew it in Vancouver
    Posted: December 11, 2008, 3:47 PM
    by Noah Love

    In an interview with ESPN's Bill Simmons, NBA commissioner David Stern made a surprising, Canadian admission — the league screwed up in Vancouver.

    Simmons asked Stern what his biggest regret during his tenure as head of the league would be and Stern replied that the short life of the Vancouver Grizzlies was it.

    "I wish we hadn't had the Vancouver experience," he said on the BS Report. "Great city, and we disappointed them and we disappointed ourselves."

    The Grizzlies left Vancouver for Memphis after six awful seasons, none of which featured a playoff appearance. They made bad draft choices (Steve Francis, Bryant Reeves), bad coaching decision (Stu Jackson, Brian Winters) and compiled an astoundingly bad 101-359 record before leaving for Memphis.

    So terrible was the NBA experience in Vancouver that Stern basically ruled out the possibility that the league would ever consider giving it another shot in B.C.'s biggest city.

    "I don't think we can go back," he said. "I think that was a great city, and I think we just didn't take advantage of the opportunity."

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...vancouver.aspx

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    In Dirk We Trust sribb43's Avatar
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    What about the Seattle Sonics, David? I'm sure Findog would disagree with you commish

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    Seattle losing the Sonics will impact the NBA more then Vancouver. Say what you want but the fans in Seattle deserved better then that. I hope Bennet and OKC enjoy having a mediocore team. I don't see Durant,Green or Westbrook staying long term there.

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    I miss the grizz


    now that seattle is gone too, the closest nba game is 6 hours away in portland

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    Who cares about Canada? Get Toronto out of there while you're at it.

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    I don't see how Stern could have done anything to save BB in Vancouver. I know we think he's some of dark magician that can snap his fingers and fix an entire playoff series, but it's neither within his power or job description to make Bryant Reeves not suck ass with the force of a black hole.

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    how the can you screw up in one of the biggest cities in canada, thats like failing in New York! oh wait...

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    Straight Forward PM5K's Avatar
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    Why does Toronto work but not VC?

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    Why does Toronto work but not VC?
    cause they are in a ty conference so they had marginal success. And i agree with that guy who said to move Toronto, i don't want to see that flag when i walk into an arena or have to hear Nelly Furtado sing the canadian national anthem at the all star game anymore.

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    Luck the Fakers Bob Lanier's Avatar
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    Why does Toronto work but not VC?
    Toronto's about 4 times bigger.

    But then again, Seattle's considerably bigger than backwaters like Orlando, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, New Orleans, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee, among others, and yet it failed.

    Vancouver's a fantastic city. Certainly nicer than any of the cities currently in the Western Conference, with the possible exception of Denver.

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    Stern admits NBA blew it in Vancouver
    Posted: December 11, 2008, 3:47 PM
    by Noah Love

    In an interview with ESPN's Bill Simmons, NBA commissioner David Stern made a surprising, Canadian admission — the league screwed up in Vancouver.

    Simmons asked Stern what his biggest regret during his tenure as head of the league would be and Stern replied that the short life of the Vancouver Grizzlies was it.

    "I wish we hadn't had the Vancouver experience," he said on the BS Report. "Great city, and we disappointed them and we disappointed ourselves."

    The Grizzlies left Vancouver for Memphis after six awful seasons, none of which featured a playoff appearance. They made bad draft choices (Steve Francis, Bryant Reeves), bad coaching decision (Stu Jackson, Brian Winters) and compiled an astoundingly bad 101-359 record before leaving for Memphis.

    So terrible was the NBA experience in Vancouver that Stern basically ruled out the possibility that the league would ever consider giving it another shot in B.C.'s biggest city.

    "I don't think we can go back," he said. "I think that was a great city, and I think we just didn't take advantage of the opportunity."

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...vancouver.aspx
    Tell us something we don't know. Soon he will also be able to add Charlotte, Memphis and Oklahoma City as other locations where the NBA "screwed up" and was rendered a failure.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 12-13-2008 at 09:33 PM.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    I'm SHOCKED he didn't list Seattle as a failure.

    And the Grizzlies were never good in Vancouver, while Heisley bought the team to move it, just like Bennett did. Fans aren't going to support a team once the novelty wears off. I guess this means that in 2015 he'll finally cop to Seattle getting jobbed.

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    whether the raptors fans like it or not, Vince Carter is the person that saved the raptors franchise eventhough they had a ty record in those years

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Toronto's about 4 times bigger.

    But then again, Seattle's considerably bigger than backwaters like Orlando, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, New Orleans, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee, among others, and yet it failed.

    Vancouver's a fantastic city. Certainly nicer than any of the cities currently in the Western Conference, with the possible exception of Denver.
    I never understood the reluctance of guys to go play there (Steve Francis I'm looking in your direction). They have ing hash bars!

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    I never understood the reluctance of guys to go play there (Steve Francis I'm looking in your direction). They have ing hash bars!
    They do?

    Well then that explains why the big white van filled to the top with weed being distributed to homeless people while the constable watched.

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    I'm SHOCKED he didn't list Seattle as a failure.

    And the Grizzlies were never good in Vancouver, while Heisley bought the team to move it, just like Bennett did. Fans aren't going to support a team once the novelty wears off. I guess this means that in 2015 he'll finally cop to Seattle getting jobbed.
    Vancouver was nothing. Seattle was his biggest failure as is the 2009 All-Star Voting travesty.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    I wonder if the Bobcats will move to Seattle eventually. I would assume the Las Vegas market is reserved for the Maloof Brothers.

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    he also said not to count off the Spurs when asked who from Cleva, LAX and BOS would win the le...

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    Toronto's about 4 times bigger.

    But then again, Seattle's considerably bigger than backwaters like Orlando, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, New Orleans, Minneapolis, and Milwaukee, among others, and yet it failed.

    Vancouver's a fantastic city. Certainly nicer than any of the cities currently in the Western Conference, with the possible exception of Denver.
    Vancouver is a great city

    I live in Montreal, and the other Canadian city I'm considering living in is Vancouver.

    Ok, maybe Toronto, since I'm a huge NBA fan.

    I remember when Olajuwon was playing at Houston, he spent his summer vacations in Vancouver; he admitted that he loved the city, which worried the Rockets management, who thought Hakeem may have wanted to play with the Grizzlies

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    In Dirk We Trust sribb43's Avatar
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    Stern's biggest failure was raping the Mavs of the '06 championship

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    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
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    What is Charlotte's overall record so far?

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    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
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    116-235

    Guess that's not quite as FAIL.

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    If you lived in Vancouver when the Grizzlies played there, the only conclusion you could arrive at was that there was terrible management. Stu Jackson ruined the franchise with brutal decision making like trading a lottery pick for Otis Thorpe. Even when other GM's tried to help him out, Jackson refused. He was offered Steve Nash for a first round pick but didn't see Nash as that good a player. I found it funny that after being fired as GM, Stern rewarded Jackson with a top executive position in the league offices. Somehow, that clown is still making decisions when its clear he doesn't belong in the NBA.

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    If you lived in Vancouver when the Grizzlies played there, the only conclusion you could arrive at was that there was terrible management. Stu Jackson ruined the franchise with brutal decision making like trading a lottery pick for Otis Thorpe. Even when other GM's tried to help him out, Jackson refused. He was offered Steve Nash for a first round pick but didn't see Nash as that good a player. I found it funny that after being fired as GM, Stern rewarded Jackson with a top executive position in the league offices. Somehow, that clown is still making decisions when its clear he doesn't belong in the NBA.
    May be a classic case of "failing upwards". Stern wanted Jackson where he could keep his eye on him rather than risking any club being dumb enough to give him a shot to wreck a second franchise.

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    david stern ripped my favorite team from me like so many girls have ripped my heart out and devoured it piece by piece
    laughing the whole time

    his power trip mocks my soul.

    WHY DOESNT DAVID STERN UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE JUST WANTS A TEAM TO LOVE.

    The sonix were a blessid haven for me after the cold mockery that was a daye at school. I could find warmth in the joy of a robert swift hook shot... peace in the beauty of a kevin durant fadeaway.
    if only i could fade away, alas

    if the sonix cant make it in seattle, how can i make it in life?

    if .... how?


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