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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...d-in-election/


    Powell: GOP 'polarization' backfired in election
    Posted: 07:01 PM ET

    Powell says the GOP tried to use 'polarization for political advantage.'
    (CNN) — The Republican party must stop "shouting at the world" and start listening to minority groups if it is to win elections in the 21st century, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Thursday.

    In an interview with CNN's Fareed Zakaria for Sunday's "GPS" program, President Bush's former secretary of state said his party's attempt "to use polarization for political advantage" backfired last month.

    "I think the party has to take a hard look at itself," Powell said in the interview, which was taped Wednesday. "There is nothing wrong with being conservative. There is nothing wrong with having socially conservative views — I don't object to that. But if the party wants to have a future in this country, it has to face some realities. In another 20 years, the majority in this country will be the minority."

    Powell, who crossed party lines and endorsed President-elect Barack Obama just weeks before the election, said the GOP must see what is in the "hearts and minds" of African-American, Hispanic and Asian voters "and not just try to influence them by… the principles and dogma."

    "I think the party has to stop shouting at the world and at the country,"Powell said. "I think that the party has to take a hard look at itself, and I've talked to a number of leaders in recent weeks and they understand that." Powell, who says he still considers himself a Republican, said his party should also stop listening to conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

    "Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh?" Powell asked. "Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?"

    Zakaria's full interview with Powell will air Sunday at 1 p.m. ET on CNN
    I wonder if Yoni thinks Powell is a traitor.

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    Conservative values do not discriminate by race. They are about individual strength.

    The left's games of class warfare, race-baiting, etc have grown a generation who are so ignorant to conservatism that they will never see the light. 50 years from now the government will still be bending them over and they will still be angry/poor.


    The very idea that we must bend our values (not talking social values, I don't give a about those) to cater to minorities as if our values actually hurt minorities because we simply don't resort to handouts for votes is abo ely laughable.

    Powell can go himself.

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    if the libertarians hi-jacked the GOP they might actually have a chance in the next 20 years........

    basically what that party needs to do is lose the taliban style religious tyranny.......

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    Conservative values do not discriminate by race. They are about individual strength.

    The left's games of class warfare, race-baiting, etc have grown a generation who are so ignorant to conservatism that they will never see the light.


    Powell can go himself.
    As opposed to the right's gay bashing?

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    Conservative values do not discriminate by race. They are about individual strength.

    The left's games of class warfare, race-baiting, etc have grown a generation who are so ignorant to conservatism that they will never see the light. 50 years from now the government will still be bending them over and they will still be angry/poor.


    The very idea that we must bend our values (not talking social values, I don't give a about those) to cater to minorities as if our values actually hurt minorities because we simply don't resort to handouts for votes is abo ely laughable.

    Powell can go himself.
    Individual strentgh? What about those folks who work two jobs but still can't afford healthcare? How about people who suffer catostrophic injuries who lose their homes because of medical bills? What is the right's response? Individual strentgh...

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    As opposed to the right's gay bashing?
    Most people do not want gay marriage for many different reasons, yet Americans are bombarded with liberals in the media/t.v./hollywood/celebs/etc calling you hateful and all other nasty words simply because you disagree.

    They are allowed to tell you it is right, yet you cannot say it is wrong. People vote, and the government still overturns them.

    The only reason gays want gay marriage is to enforce the idea of sexuality as the norm to the rest of the country.

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    Powell can go himself.
    thats what powell just said to you, except with intelligence and grace.

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    Most people do not want gay marriage
    including obama

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    thats what powell just said to you, except with intelligence and grace.
    lmao, I doubt you have the intelligence to understand a) why he is doing this b) how much of a joke it is to think conservatives should bend their values to cater to those who are not intelligent enough themselves to understand how the left manipulates them.

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    i see powell is still bitter.

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    i see powell is still bitter.
    and right.

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    The only problem the right has is that conservative values (not talking social) are not the easy way out. Fiscal responsibility is not the easy way out. Because of this, they have a hard time conveying conservative values to the people. They are HORRIBLE at it. Few true conservatives even exist anymore! The left brainwashing the young that the right are all racists/against the "common man/bigots/etc does not make it any easier. Ron Paul told people the truth and not political garbage like every other candidate, and he is laughed at by both Dems and Republicans.

    Instead of getting down to business, Powell wants even more RINO's in government to start looking like the left.

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    lmao, I doubt you have the intelligence to understand a) why he is doing this b) how much of a joke it is to think conservatives should bend their values to cater to those who are not intelligent enough themselves to understand how the left manipulates them.
    about a month ago the country decided that conservatives are the joke.

    you can't even hear the laughter. it's directed at you.

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    about a month ago the country decided that conservatives are the joke.

    you can't even hear the laughter. it's directed at you.
    If you had any wisdom you would know that the masses are usually wrong and only a small percentage find true success in life.

    Thank god I had such a great father to teach me this stuff.

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    what the right lost (and i'll admit the left has a hard time w/) is w/personal responsibilty.....they got too into what other people were doing in their free time and not enough into how to let people be themselves...if they could get that back

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    Instead of getting down to business, Powell wants even more RINO's in government to start looking like the left.
    and still more denials.

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    If you had any wisdom you would know that the masses are usually wrong and only a small percentage find true success in life.

    Thank god I had such a great father to teach me this stuff.
    he taught you that the masses are wrong?

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    I wonder if Yoni thinks Powell is a traitor.
    Of course he is -- he's talking to a Muslim!

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    If you had any wisdom you would know that the masses are usually wrong and only a small percentage find true success in life.
    I should clarify this, I believe this too be true

    however Bush really screwing things up plus McCain being a horrible candidate who ran a pathetic campaign was a bigger factor.

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    Most people do not want gay marriage for many different reasons, yet Americans are bombarded with liberals in the media/t.v./hollywood/celebs/etc calling you hateful and all other nasty words simply because you disagree.

    They are allowed to tell you it is right, yet you cannot say it is wrong. People vote, and the government still overturns them.

    The only reason gays want gay marriage is to enforce the idea of sexuality as the norm to the rest of the country.
    you're wrong new polls show a total reversal on that.

    And young people overwhelmingly support gay rights.

    The problem with being a social conservative, is that you have to know that in 20 years everything you think will be disavowed by future generations, but you don't care.

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    you're wrong new polls show a total reversal on that.
    If that were true, the measure would have been successful in, of all places, California.

    And young people overwhelmingly support gay rights.
    Yeah, but that'll pass by the time they're old enough to care enough to vote.

    The problem with being a social conservative, is that you have to know that in 20 years everything you think will be disavowed by future generations, but you don't care.
    The more things change the more they stay the same.

    If you're in your under 30 and a Republican, you're heartless. If you're over 30 and a Democrat, you're stupid. That old maxim holds true...that's why older Americans predominantly vote Republican and that's why Democrats spend so much time trying to indoctrinate the MTV crowd.

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    As opposed to the right's gay bashing?
    Since when has not accepting SPECIAL RIGHTS, become Gay Bashing? That's all the right does, with the exception of a very small handful.

    Oh that's right. You Kool-Aid Drinking Lemmings believe the propaganda of the left...

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    Individual strentgh? What about those folks who work two jobs but still can't afford healthcare? How about people who suffer catostrophic injuries who lose their homes because of medical bills? What is the right's response? Individual strentgh...
    If you want a Nanny State, move to one. Don't make America in the image of others.

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    about a month ago the country decided that conservatives are the joke.

    you can't even hear the laughter. it's directed at you.
    No, people like you are a joke. If you think McCain is a conservative, You are a total idiot.

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    who's mccain? i thought he was running against palin.

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