If you have more passes, youre eventually going to have more incompletions. its the law of averages in effect. & with more passes comes more potential for an interception.
Cash, you aint gonna win any argument from someone that thinks he can step right in at the Red Raider QB position against the OU defense in Norman and complete 60% of his passes by throwing 5 yard bubble screens all day long.
He obviously loves him some him
whiny? maybe, but it's no more whiny than any other coach that feels like they got screwed by the system like Mack, Carroll, etc
agreed, which is why I brought up Stoops and Brown in the first place.
It's sad that collegiate coaching now includes the responsibility to lobby -- or whine -- about perceived injustices visited upon teams or players. It's as if propagandist is one facet of the head football coach's job description at most universities that seek to climb the ladder.
Leach is a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them; he knows that if that program is going to continue climbing -- and there can be little doubt that Tech has, under Leach, climbed from being occasionally compe ive to being a program that is now good enough to consistently play for New Year's Day bowls -- he has to make waves, fight for players, and urge the subjective analysts who drive college football to accord some respect to a program they choose to know little about.
yeah, I was starting to think the same thing.
i agree with this
yeah, it's a sales job.
The thing is, Leach is perceived more as a weirdo......some kind of mad scientist with some wacky views on things, so when he speaks, the perception is more of whining or 'that's just Leach being Leach'.
...whereas Mack is the conssumate salesman. He makes perfect pitches and is always in the right place at the right time, always selling the greatness of UT and of it's players.....and it works.
Mack also likes to clap a lot.
Leach is trained as a lawyer and his arguments, while unorthodox in the field of college football, tend more toward the logical and a sense of consistency and overall justice (I offer that realizing that the next 3000 posts in this thread will slam my belief that any lawyer could possibly make such an argument).
I'm not sure that Leach is seen as more of a whiner than someone like Mack, at least to those who aren't dyed-in-the-wool Orangebloods, but Mack has been more effective in his lobbying than Leach, mostly because Mack has always had the better arguments to rely upon in those efforts. I still think his effort to displace Cal a few years ago in the Rose Bowl was unseemly, but I know why he did it -- and he made an argument that many could agree with. I think he had an even better argument this year and somehow didn't quite convince enough people.
I was at home all day yesterday and listened to a lot of media types weigh in on the Harrell exclusion. Most agreed that Leach had a good point and I think that in most precincts outside of places like Austin, Leach is seen as being correct on this one. But, in the end, it's clear that Harrell wasn't going to win and excluding him from the ceremony is akin to saying that the 9th best team wouldn't get into a football playoff.
Because he voted Texas fifth and for that he's a...
it. I'm done. It's over. Time to watch Colt lose the Heisman and move on.
And the same law of averages also says he'll also have more yards and more TDs...in other words, he's a product of the system. He's a volume passer.
UT and everything Austin stands for...
Last edited by concken; 12-12-2008 at 02:15 PM.
that's absolutely faulty logic
No less faulty than saying he'll have more incomplete passes simply because he throws more.
I guess if guys like McCoy and Bradford played in the Tech system, we should really expect completion percentages around 95% and an average of about 700 yards per game. If a no-talent hack like Harrell can put up gigantic numbers at Tech, uber-talents like those guys would destroy the record books.
Possibly...but those uber-talents would prefer to go to schools where they know they'll have a chance to compete for a national le year-in and year-out.
What stand has Austin taken to make you want to it?
no it's really not the same.
Youre assuming the TDs and yardage automatically come with the system.
the irony here being that Graham Harrell was a 4 star recruit......Colt was a 3 star......
Cash459 was assuming incomplete passes come with the system.
And...if TDs and yardage are not part of the system, what is the system for? It's not like Tech was rushing for a load of yards and TDs.
And Colt turned out to be better.
Irony indeed.
lol, harrell not invited to heisman ceremony
I actually think the irony is the need for some Orangebloods to seek out every opportunity to diminish Texas Tech and those who represent it. You'd think that something so insignificant would warrant no attention at all. I think the insistence of some Longhorn backers in trying to put down Texas Tech only serves to demonstrate that Tech is significant enough to be a concern.
After all, you don't hear that kind of chatter about Baylor. . . .
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