Mike Leach is an idiot

[clambake]

i think the hate on tech is a by-product of supressed disgust regarding that ty ing town and the people that dwell there.

still, it's better than el paso.

[Blake]

It's not inconceivable to me -- for one -- that he's been excluded; but I do see Leach's point on this one, as well. There's an honor in being invited to the show, even if it's to announce that you finished 4th. I understand the DAC's line-drawing, but it's not as if Harrell is likely to have finished 10th in the voting, either.

Harrell probably won't end up being much of a pro (if he even gets that opportunity) but to say that his season can't be compared favorably to both McCoy's and Bradford's is silly. That's true whether Harrell was invited to the ceremony or not.

I'd say that Harrell is in the Heisman discussion because his team went 11-1 in what was arguably the toughest conference and certainly the toughest division in college football. His team finished the season as one of the 8 best teams (by ranking at least) in college football. It's not like Tech didn't accomplish anything; if all that Harrell did was match his predecessors, then Tech would have reverted to form and gone 8-4 or 9-3, not 11-1. Norman elminated any chance that Harrell would win the Heisman in '08 and eliminated his team from BCS contention, certainly. But the fact that he doesn't win the Heisman doesn't make him a system QB; nor does the fact that his team didn't win the national championship make him unworthy of discussion as one of the elite players in college football in 2008.

Like I say, I understand why Harrell wasn't invited to the ceremony, but I also see Leach's point that excluding Harrell from the ceremony denies him an honor (mention as a Heisman finalist) that he earned this season -- system or not.

Most of us get it. Types get it like Dan Wetzel, Jim Rome and Dan Patrick have all said it's ridiculous that Harrell didn't get invited.

...but we're all wrong and ILMSM is right. yeeeahhh.

[I Love Me Some Me]

all wrong.

Harrell was the Heisman leader until the OU game in the eyes of the voters.

newsflash #23,876: Toretta, Weinke, Jason White, etccccccc.....

ALL products of the system. They all got to go not just because of their team records, but because of the logo on their helmets.

That's exactly what I said. Harrell was a Heisman favorite from the UT game up until the OU game. Then it was over for him, and for good reason.

Toretta (Marshall Faulk), Winke (Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson), Jason White (Larry Fitzgerald)....all guys who should NOT have won the Heisman.

[fyatuk]

thanks for sharing.

mental note: fatyuk does not get a Christmas gift from me

I hate christmas anyway, and always hope no one gets me a gift.


It really doesn't bother me that that Harrell didn't get invited. It wouldn't bother me if he did, either. He deserves to be in the discussion, but not to win, so whatever.

[Kermit]

Jason White winning the Heisman was an abomination. But hey, B.J. Symons came in 10th that year.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Most of us get it. Types get it like Dan Wetzel, Jim Rome and Dan Patrick have all said it's ridiculous that Harrell didn't get invited.

...but we're all wrong and ILMSM is right. yeeeahhh.

Oh, wait...Jim Rome thinks Harrell should have been invitied? In that case, I change my mind.

WAR PEOPLE WHO DON'T ALL THINK LIKE JIM ROME DOES, AND WAR THE CLONES GETTING HEISMAN VOTES SO GRAHAM HARRELL CAN GET A FREE TRIP TO THE BIG APPLE!!!!

[Blake]

So what does that say for you, who have yet to disprove the fact that a monkey could play quarterback at Tech and have Harrell's numbers. Maybe the only disagreement between us is the type of monkey. A spidermonkey might average less touchdowns but could definitely pile up the rushing yardage.

Dude, you are seriously working your way towards getting an invite to the ceremony.

BJ Symons passed up a Harvard academic scholarship to play at Tech.

Harrell was one of 15 finalists for the Draddy Trophy. Look it up.

Tell me how my ass taste.

[Blake]

It really doesn't bother me that that Harrell didn't get invited. It wouldn't bother me if he did, either. He deserves to be in the discussion, but not to win, so whatever.

perfect answer. that's all you need.

[Blake]

Oh, wait...Jim Rome thinks Harrell should have been invitied? In that case, I change my mind.

WAR PEOPLE WHO DON'T ALL THINK LIKE JIM ROME DOES, AND WAR THE CLONES GETTING HEISMAN VOTES SO GRAHAM HARRELL CAN GET A FREE TRIP TO THE BIG APPLE!!!!

thing is, Rome has no ties to anything Big XII......he is an unbiased observer. You however are a biased horn fan that wants to rip Tech at any given chance.

but if you need more national media types that think that Harrell got jipped, lemme know. I got a list o' plenty.

[Kermit]

Dude, you are seriously working your way towards getting an invite to the ceremony.

BJ Symons passed up a Harvard academic scholarship to play at Tech.

Harrell was one of 15 finalists for the Draddy Trophy. Look it up.

Tell me how my ass taste.

I didn't know that academics played a role in the Heisman selection. Goddamn Blake. On top of being a bag, you are now entering Re ville. Congrats.

[Blake]

Jason White winning the Heisman was an abomination. But hey, B.J. Symons came in 10th that year.

right, because Tech was near the bottom in the country in defense.

Wins losses = heismans. Had Tech been able to hold the other teams to under 80 points a game, BJ would have easily been in NYC.

[Blake]

I didn't know that academics played a role in the Heisman selection. Goddamn Blake. On top of being a bag, you are now entering Re ville. Congrats.

Im talking about you getting invited to the d-bag trophy ceremony, which I think you just moved into a solid 3rd.

so continue to laugh it up, furball. I just disproved your monkey theory.

it's always funny when someone that needs hooked on fonics calls someone else a re .

[cash459]

McCoy isnt going to win the heisman or national le either...does that mean that he shouldnt have been invited?

[Kermit]

right, because Tech was near the bottom in the country in defense.

Wins losses = heismans. Had Tech been able to hold the other teams to under 80 points a game, BJ would have easily been in NYC.

So, Tech was 11-1 this year because of a good defense and Crabtree. Not through any heroics that Harrell possessed as evidenced by the near identical statistics of his predecessors.

[Kermit]

Im talking about you getting invited to the d-bag trophy ceremony, which I think you just moved into a solid 3rd.

so continue to laugh it up, furball. I just disproved your monkey theory.

it's always funny when someone that needs hooked on fonics calls someone else a re .

Hooked on fonics

ing hilarious bag!! Please, give me another stupid insult. Your (see, I did that for you benefit) so smart and witty.

[Blake]

So, Tech was 11-1 this year because of a good defense and Crabtree. Not through any heroics that Harrell possessed as evidenced by the near identical statistics of his predecessors.

keep on........maybe the light will start to turn on....

If Tech had had a defense the last 9 years, Kingsbury, Symons, Hodges, bie and Harrell would all get Heisman considerations.

Symons had it early on win Tech started 6-1.......He was on the Best Damn Sports Show talking to Roseanne's husband about it.

[Kermit]

McCoy isnt going to win the heisman or national le either...does that mean that he shouldnt have been invited?

He went there to pray with Tebow. They're thanking Jesus as we speak and giving Sam a cir cision.

[Kermit]

keep on........maybe the light will start to turn on....

If Tech had had a defense the last 9 years, Kingsbury, Symons, Hodges, bie and Harrell would all get Heisman considerations.

Symons had it early on win Tech started 6-1.......He was on the Best Damn Sports Show talking to Roseanne's husband about it.

So, it's the system. I'm trying to help you out here. You're almost there....

[Blake]

Hooked on fonics

ing hilarious bag!! Please, give me another stupid insult. Your (see, I did that for you benefit) so smart and witty.

great. a stretch clone.

done.

[cash459]

He went there to pray with Tebow. They're thanking Jesus as we speak and giving Sam a cir cision.

probably theyre going on a crusade together in the summer i hear......... or like others think, it was just b/c of his ability & absolutely notthing to do with the fact that he plays in Austin.

[stretch]

I get invited to the D-bag trophy ceremony because my name is Blake.

no, you got invited for 1. being named blake 2. being a in tech fan

Stretch should get an invite because of his work in this forum.

what work? making y tech fans like you blow their chodes over the fact that they are inferior in each and every way to UT fans, much like their school?

[cash459]

what work? making y tech fans like you blow their chodes over the fact that they are inferior in each and every way to UT fans, much like their school?

[Blake]

no, you got invited for 1. being named blake 2. being a in tech fan



what work? making y tech fans like you blow their chodes over the fact that they are inferior in each and every way to UT fans, much like their school?

can I use this post as part of your highlight reel when they announce your name?

[stretch]

UT fans here have made insecure tech fans chodes implode so many time its not even funny.

UT > Tech

lol, tech

[cash459]

UT fans here have made insecure tech fans chodes implode so many time its not even funny.

UT > Tech

lol, tech

39 > 33...

LOL ut fans still obsessed with Tech after insisting that they are "nothing"

lol, ut fans.......

LOL even MORE at ut fans who never went to ut