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    Are the Spurs Too Old to Win Another Championship
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    Ask me again after this season's finals..

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    They lost last year because Ginobili was hurt. Against a great team, you've got to fire on all cylinders.
    And the questionable non-call against Brent, which the league admitted was a mistake by the official.

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    no way, we got younger this season AND the young players are contributing.

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    And the questionable non-call against Brent, which the league admitted was a mistake by the official.
    The play before that the shot clock should've been reset or whatever(sorry to play devil's advocate, but it's true). Don't remember the specifics, but the refs missed the fact that the angle changed on Fish' shot, thus proving it hit the rim.

    I think a major reason, besides Manu being hurt, is that Pop tried to pimp Manu for too long, he should've gone to Barry sooner. And IIRC, he left TP on the court in Game 1 when they had the huge lead, afterwards even he stated he thought he should've taken out TP for a quick breather.

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    Ages of the '97-98 Champion Bulls:

    Jordan, 34
    Pippen, 32
    Rodman, 36
    Harper, 34
    Kerr, 32
    Longley, 29
    Kukoc, 29
    Thanks for the reminder.

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    And the questionable non-call against Brent, which the league admitted was a mistake by the official.
    Barry traveled before Fisher fouled him. Kori closed this so few people saw it:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97449

    and, as said above, Fisher's shot did hit the rim. also down the stretch: you got a free point when Ginobili hit a 2 not a 3, and Odom didn't goaltend on Parker, it was a clean block.

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    Barry traveled before Fisher fouled him. Kori closed this so few people saw it:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97449

    and, as said above, Fisher's shot did hit the rim. also down the stretch: you got a free point when Ginobili hit a 2 not a 3, and Odom didn't goaltend on Parker, it was a clean block.
    Yup that's bull

    You can go through every single call in the game and question it.

    2 points here 3 points there, goltend here, charge there etc. etc.

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    The critics said the same thing two years ago. The result was the Spurs 4th championship. When we win, we are experienced. When we lose, we are as old as dirt.

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    The critics said the same thing two years ago. The result was the Spurs 4th championship. When we win, we are experienced. When we lose, we are as old as dirt.
    jeez Pop what a nickname you chosen for a ST board ... ?

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    The critics said the same thing two years ago. The result was the Spurs 4th championship. When we win, we are experienced. When we lose, we are as old as dirt.
    jeez Pop what a nickname you have chosen for a ST board ... ?

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    The critics said the same thing two years ago. The result was the Spurs 4th championship. When we win, we are experienced. When we lose, we are as old as dirt.
    Yes they sure did!!

    We are not too old win a championship!!

    (Drive for Five!!!!!)

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    Isn't this years regular 12 younger than 07's 12, on average?

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    And the questionable non-call against Brent, which the league admitted was a mistake by the official.
    Yup, that's certainly true. Though... if Manu had been 100% (or anywhere close to it), I don't think it wouldn't have come down to that one particular play.

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    if you look closely: Spurs top performers including: Parker, Hill, Mason...which are young..only Duncan and Ginobili is on their early 30s. The rest are scrubs..except Finley for his shooting and Bowen for his defense. Suns are too sucks, not only they never won any championship, right now they are not even in the playoff standings..Shaq is too old,Amare is a lone ranger..but i got great respect on Nash and J Rich..the rest of em are suckers

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    if you look closely: Spurs top performers including: Parker, Hill, Mason...which are young..only Duncan and Ginobili is on their early 30s. The rest are scrubs..except Finley for his shooting and Bowen for his defense. Suns are too sucks, not only they never won any championship, right now they are not even in the playoff standings..Shaq is too old,Amare is a lone ranger..but i got great respect on Nash and J Rich..the rest of em are suckers
    I think it's sage to say that Mason and Hill are working out better than anyone could have predicted. Big pick-ups... both of them.

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    All the Lakers have proven is that they can win a playoff series. They haven't won anything and I think the Celtics exposed many weaknesses of the Lakers during last year's Finals. Youth isn't everything. Nor is talent. The better team wins playoffs and championships. The better team is a TEAM, not a collection of solo players who get by on their talent. I think your going to find that behind all of that talent is a very weak backbone and when it cracks it is going to be a huge fall for the Lakers organization.

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    if you look closely: Spurs top performers including: Parker, Hill, Mason...which are young..only Duncan and Ginobili is on their early 30s. The rest are scrubs..except Finley for his shooting and Bowen for his defense. Suns are too sucks, not only they never won any championship, right now they are not even in the playoff standings..Shaq is too old,Amare is a lone ranger..but i got great respect on Nash and J Rich..the rest of em are suckers
    Just curious, but what is your definition of a scrub, or do you even have one? Cuz it seems to me like some posters on ST like the throw it around. Is it slang for roleplayer? If it is then everyone should be told, because some use it for any dude that hasn't made the allstar game in the past 15 years.

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    The following list is based upon NBA Opening-Day rosters for the 2008-09 season, which was October 28, 2008.


    Team Avg Exp Avg Age
    Atlanta 3.60 25.41
    Boston 5.47 27.16
    Charlotte 3.29 25.13
    Chicago 3.57 25.41
    Cleveland 5.53 27.32
    Dallas 6.71 28.29
    Denver 6.43 28.34
    Detroit 4.73 27.09
    Golden State 2.93 24.19
    Houston 5.43 28.16
    Indiana 4.27 27.18
    LA Clippers 5.64 27.50
    LA Lakers 5.64 26.78
    Memphis 3.21 24.78
    Miami 3.87 26.08
    Milwaukee 5.33 28.03
    Minnesota 4.80 27.07
    New Jersey 4.13 25.80
    New Orleans 5.80 28.78
    New York 5.53 26.90
    Oklahoma City 3.60 25.18
    Orlando 5.60 27.88
    Philadelphia 5.71 27.30
    Phoenix 5.62 27.95
    Portland 2.94 24.46
    Sacramento 4.43 26.94
    San Antonio 6.00 29.96
    Toronto 3.23 26.57
    Utah 4.47 26.06
    Washington 4.87 27.05
    NBA Average 4.74 26.81


    LMAO.......so there is a difference between being an old team at 29yrs avg age and a young team at 26-28yrs of avg. age?

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    I'm getting tired of this "The Spurs are too old to win anymore" crap.

    Its funny that The Spurs keep winning and they still say they're too old to win anything. Talk about ignorant.
    the spurs are viewed as the small market red headed step child and the media will always make up some dumb reason why they HOPE we wont win it all. Too old, too boring, too many foreigners, too low ratings, etc.

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    the spurs are viewed as the small market red headed step child and the media will always make up some dumb reason why they HOPE we wont win it all. Too old, too boring, too many foreigners, too low ratings, etc.
    I think there's certainly some truth in what you are saying. The media wants to see the flashier, bigger market teams in the finals.

    Though, I don't really understand how the Spurs are still regarded as a boring team. If they were playing the inside-out game they played when they won their first championship (either in to Timmy, or out for an open 3), I would understand that.

    But with Tony and Many doing their thing... I think this team is a lot of fun to watch.

    I don't get it.

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    Just curious, but what is your definition of a scrub, or do you even have one? Cuz it seems to me like some posters on ST like the throw it around. Is it slang for roleplayer? If it is then everyone should be told, because some use it for any dude that hasn't made the allstar game in the past 15 years.
    I should put Bonner along with TP,Hill,Mason for Spurs young and powerful roster. Honestly I just want to point that Spurs is not an old team because players who produce results (except Bowen for his wonderful defense n 3) are young and still got potential to make great run for 5th Manu and Duncan are not that old either. But I shouldnt use the word scrub because in my dictionary that just mean someone who can not delivered the expected results,its my bad..previously i got frustated when no one step up to score other than Big 3, but it will not matter since everything turn out great now

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    I think there's certainly some truth in what you are saying. The media wants to see the flashier, bigger market teams in the finals.

    Though, I don't really understand how the Spurs are still regarded as a boring team. If they were playing the inside-out game they played when they won their first championship (either in to Timmy, or out for an open 3), I would understand that.

    But with Tony and Many doing their thing... I think this team is a lot of fun to watch.

    I don't get it.
    I think a Spurs-Celtics Finals would be just as exciting as the Lakers-Celtics though I think the Spurs would've given the Celtics a better series...not that the Spurs would've won it all but if Manu was healthy & the team was playing consistently, I think they could've taken it to 6 or 7. There would've been some blowouts but there would've also been some classic games in that series.

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    I should put Bonner along with TP,Hill,Mason for Spurs young and powerful roster. Honestly I just want to point that Spurs is not an old team because players who produce results (except Bowen for his wonderful defense n 3) are young and still got potential to make great run for 5th Manu and Duncan are not that old either. But I shouldnt use the word scrub because in my dictionary that just mean someone who can not delivered the expected results,its my bad..previously i got frustated when no one step up to score other than Big 3, but it will not matter since everything turn out great now
    Oh ok. Well I guess Finley and Bonner were both scrubs, but they've produced to their potential... so far. Hope Ime and JV stay the only scrubs on the team. On 2nd thought, I want Ime to go back to how he played in the NO playoff series.

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    well,that right there has alot to do with Ginobili's injury.
    But, I do agree about our role players not showing up and the ty schedule.
    Yes, while (IMO) health was the greatest factor... the schedule and performance of role players certainly played a part in the loss.

    As for the role players, I think we've got that fixed. Mason and Hill were big additions, and Bonner's playing such an increased role, that it's almost like picking up a new player there as well.

    Can't do anything about the schedule, but the supporting cast looks a lot better to me. So if we're healthy when it counts, the Spurs may have an opportunity to show the Lakers that the West still belongs to the Spurs.

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