Ill. Gov. arrested in Obama successor probe

[Yonivore]

Well, you knew this was coming...

[Yonivore]

Ooops! Rahm Emanuel, Blagojevich staff talked

[ChumpDumper]

The revelation does not suggest Obama's new gatekeeper was involved in any talk of dealmaking involving the seat.

Are you ever going to say what you think Obama's involvement is Yoni?

[ChumpDumper]

Then there's this:

Mr. Emanuel’s spokeswoman declined to comment on Saturday. Transition aides would not comment publicly, saying federal prosecutors have asked them not to speak about the matter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/us...14emanuel.html

Why does Yoni hate America and its Bush-appointed prosecutors?

[Yonivore]

Now, it's being suggested Fitzgerald prematurely filed charges because Obama's camp was getting ready to commit a crime and he prevented it.

From what I'm hearing, many attorney's are claiming there's no case against Blagojevich because he didn't consummate a deal for the Obama's seat. No deal, no crime...it's not a crime to talk about committing a crime.

Anyway, that leaves the question of why Fitzgerald came out when he did and, further, why he's sinking his case by poisoning the well of potential jurors with his proclamations of guilt. Blagojevich is either acquitted outright or wins on appeal becaue of prosecutorial misconduct.

Obama is sure spending a lot of time crafting his "what contact did we have with Blagojevich" response....I understand he's delayed it, yet again.

Stay tuned

[Wild Cobra]

I just heard something else that struck me.

This is the first time in recent memory Democrats have not circled the wagons and supported a beleaguered fellow Democrat. From William “Cold Cash” Jefferson to Rangel to Harry Reid to Nancy Pelosi and on and on and on. Name a recent scandal in which Democrats have – within a day, as has happened here – called for the Democrat to resign.

Combine that with the Democrat’s rush to distance Obama from Blogojevich – his long association with the Governor all but being ignored – and Rahm Emmanuel’s sudden muteness; and, you have something fishy (no Pelosi reference intended) going on.

It’s obvious to most objective observers, Democrats want this to go away as quickly as possible and then, they want all digging into the matter to cease immediately. Thank you, please.

Sounds like to me that this must run so deep in the party that they are afraid!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Obama is sure spending a lot of time crafting his "what contact did we have with Blagojevich" response....I understand he's delayed it, yet again.

hey. come on, now. "transparency" can't be rushed.

[Oh, Gee!!]

it's not a crime to talk about committing a crime.

could be conspiracy perhaps

[Yonivore]

could be conspiracy perhaps

Perhaps. But, why the rush?

I question the timing...particularly now that Obama is dancing like Mr. Bojangles

[balli]

Go ahead Yoni. Tell us all how you've never really liked Newt Gingrich that much and how much this is just a self-centered and short-sighted ploy on his part.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich sent a rather scathing letter to Mike Duncan on Tuesday, accusing the RNC chairman of engaging in "a destructive distraction" by attempting to tie Barack Obama to Rod Blagojevich. In particular, Gingrich hit the RNC for putting out a web ad that made it seem as if the President-elect was hiding a nefarious chapter of his personal history with the embattled Illinois Governor.

"The RNC should pull the ad down immediately," Gingrich writes.

I was saddened to learn that at a time of national trial, when a president-elect is preparing to take office in the midst of the worst financial crisis in over seventy years, that the Republican National Committee is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

Yoni's not though. Cont.

The recent web advertisement, "Questions Remain," is a destructive distraction. Clearly, we should insist that all taped communications regarding the Senate seat should be made public. However, that should be a matter of public policy, not an excuse for political attack.
In a time when America is facing real challenges, Republicans should be working to help the incoming President succeed in meeting them, regardless of his Party.

From now until the inaugural, Republicans should be offering to help the President-elect prepare to take office.

Furthermore, once President Obama takes office, Republicans should be eager to work with him when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him.

This is the only way the Republican Party will become known as the "better solutions" party, not just an opposition party. And this is the only way Republicans will ever regain the trust of the voters to return to the majority.

This ad is a terrible signal to be sending about both the goals of the Republican Party in the midst of the nation's troubled economic times and about whether we have actually learned anything from the defeats of 2006 and 2008.

Yoni's learned nothing apparently.

[ChumpDumper]

Conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime.

Blagojevich, 51, and Harris, 46, both of Chicago, were each charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and solicitation of bribery.

It's incredible how willfully ignorant some people are

[Anti.Hero]

Once a Russian, always a Russian.

Right chump

[ChumpDumper]

le 18 United States Code, Section 1349. Attempt and conspiracy

Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense under this chapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy.

Here are the crimes in this chapter to which Blagojevich and his CoS are alleged to conspire:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...3----000-.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...6----000-.html

They are also charged with violating (a)(1)(B) and (a)(2) of this section of the code:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...6----000-.html

I would like to see our resident legal scholars Yoni and Wild Cobra explain to us all how there was no crime committed.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Perhaps. But, why the rush?

maybe to prevent an illegitimate senator from being seated.

[Yonivore]

maybe to prevent an illegitimate senator from being seated.

Nah, I don't buy it. They could have let Blago consummate the deal and then arrested his ass for a crime. The appointment could have still been stopped in the confirmation process by the Senate.

The idea that Fitzgerald was trying to keep someone from committing a crime by prematurely busting Blago sure sounds plausible to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, I don't buy it. They could have let Blago consummate the deal and then arrested his ass for a crime. The appointment could have still been stopped in the confirmation process by the Senate.

The idea that Fitzgerald was trying to keep someone from committing a crime by prematurely busting Blago sure sounds plausible to me.

Once more, with feeling:

le 18 United States Code, Section 1349. Attempt and conspiracy

Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense under this chapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy.

The penalties for conspiracy are the same as the crime itself, so there is nothing to be gained by letting any deal go through. Yoni just lives in hope that Obama's people were as ignorant of the law as he is.

[Yonivore]

Claim: Rahm Emanuel on 21 Different Calls with Blago About Senate Seat, All Taped by the Feds

And those are the ones they taped. Who knows if a couple were made on non-bugged phones.

No contacts? Really dude?



The thot plickens.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Nah, I don't buy it. They could have let Blago consummate the deal and then arrested his ass for a crime. The appointment could have still been stopped in the confirmation process by the Senate.

The idea that Fitzgerald was trying to keep someone from committing a crime by prematurely busting Blago sure sounds plausible to me.

if Obama conspired with Blago, Fitgerald didn't prevent the commission of a crime. the crime of conspiracy would have occured and Obama would be on the hook with Blago. I think you're hoping for the worst despite all indications that Obama did nothing illegal. Keep the faith.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You know Yoni, there is a difference between criticising a president's up, and actually hoping and waiting for it to happen. You're a partisan hack, plain and simple. You won't rest until you find SOMETHING that will finally stick.

[ChumpDumper]

Yoni just hates America.

Always has.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yoni hates something... and whatever it is, he really ought to let it go.

[Yonivore]

You won't rest until you find SOMETHING that will finally stick.

You say that as if something will eventually stick. I believe that too.

Obama looks dirtier and dirtier with each passing day.

You won't find it unless you look for it and, frankly, the press spent this campaign season doing everything they could to avoid Obama's slimy Chicago political upbringing...while looking under every rock in Wasilla, AK for crap on Palin and came up with nothing.

Maybe they'll be forced to do their job now.

[Yonivore]

Yoni hates something... and whatever it is, he really ought to let it go.

Democrats. With the exception of Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, there's not a good one left alive.

I'll let it go when they're no longer ing up our country.

[ChumpDumper]

You say that as if something will eventually stick. I believe that too.

Obama looks dirtier and dirtier with each passing day.

You won't find it unless you look for it and, frankly, the press spent this campaign season doing everything they could to avoid Obama's slimy Chicago political upbringing...while looking under every rock in Wasilla, AK for crap on Palin and came up with nothing.

Maybe they'll be forced to do their job now.

So after a week now, what specifically do you claim Obama did here?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You say that as if something will eventually stick. I believe that too.

no, I say that as if you won't stop until something does, which is a bull at ude. You don't even give the benefit of the doubt, you look for to make a big deal out of in hopes that it will make Obama look bad. He's not Jesus, but he's not the ing anti-christ either man...

Obama looks dirtier and dirtier with each passing day.

yeah, well you've been rambling against the man since he first started running, whether he be dirty or not, so excuse me if I think your credibility on the matter might be a little bit questionable.

You won't find it unless you look for it and, frankly, the press spent this campaign season doing everything they could to avoid Obama's slimy Chicago political upbringing...while looking under every rock in Wasilla, AK for crap on Palin and came up with nothing.

I saw the same campaign you did, and Obama was vetted like a mother er. Just because nobody found , doesn't mean they didn't look. Plus, Palin was an f'n joke. I still can't believe the Republican's trotted THAT out as the best possible candidate for the vice-presidency... jeez!

Maybe they'll be forced to do their job now.

What's that? dig for dirt eternally until they find something to vindicate people like you?