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The Lakers are a joke...seriously.
First off, let me explain that they play zero defense (allowing 98 ppg) and have lost their three games to unexpected teams (i.e. the Pacers). Defense became a problem again in the game they played on nbaTV last night, barely beating the New York Knicks 116 to 114.
Now, I know that the Lakers are a three loss team right now, but this is why I think that they will enter the PO and, especially with a healthy spurs team, find some troubles:
Kobe Bryant is not a leader...plain and dry.
Sure, he can take over a game and put up 30 points in the second half if he wants to. How is this enough? What separates Kobe from players like Timmy (yes, KG is one), is that TD gets other involved. TD doesn't put up the flashy numbers that Kobe does, but he allows his team to fight back and win the game together.
Basically, all I wanted to say this morning is this;
Kobe is a superstar, but he will never be an all-time great NBA player.
(Like Tim Duncan haha)
One Love.
Last edited by concken; 12-17-2008 at 01:22 PM.
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Gasol has been the best Laker so far.
Kobe is just jacking up shots
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Believe.
Beave.
Oh, and it was the New York last night...
1999 forum
Btw...you are what your record says you are, and the Lakers have joked their way to being the second best team in the NBA right now.
the 2006 Dallas Mavericks say o
you mean 2007
I think they are pretty good. If they play like they have been playing lately against the good teams they will lose for sure but I'm sure they will step it up when they actually face a good team and not a crappy one.
'06 and '07
The Lakers appear to be pretty darn good to me.
The 2007 Mavs were the best team in the regular season. This is the regular season...and the Lakers are the second best team right now.
And Dirk is a clown...there's no comparing him to Kobe(3 rings).
-Kobe IS an all time great
-Lakers defense sucks
-Kobe is a great team player`
-Kobe is a bad team leader
-Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant
Kobe has gotten better at getting his teammates involved and has become a leader, too bad he waited till he no longer has the huge athleticism advantage over everyone he faces. He also is incomparable to MJ because MJ could post up virtually every 2-guard who tried to guard him, while Kobe can't post up to save his life (trying to back someone down and then shooting a baseline fade away over him is not a post up).
I also find it funny that the idiot Laker fans who know nothing about basketballchant M-V-P for Kobe at the end of games where Kobe shoots like 35% given the fact Gasol has been by far their best player this year. At first I thought they were they would lose to either SA or Boston, but that might still be giving too much credit it seems like any team with speed at point guard and height at the wing has a shot against them. No need to list examples because there are a lot.
they're good, but we'll see how they play against the top team (boston, cleveland, san antonio), we'll have a better idea.
Fakers are again very good. However, they are very suspect defensively. If the Spurs remain healthy, I expect them to put the Fakers away. If they don't, the Celtics, sure as , will - again.
The Lakers are a real suck ass team.
Kobe's lost a step, or three
Kobe's selfish
Lamar Odom lost his starting job
Andrew Bynum is a bust
They'll lose when they play good teams like the Spurs, the Jazz, the Celtics and the Cavs.
2008-2009 season...
James: 33ppg
Bryant: 23ppg
Maybe he HAS lost a step or three.
Kobe HAS a good player or three
The Lakers are ing scary right now, and Kobe hasn't lost . We better be firing on all cylinders come Playoff time if we want to make it to the finals.
Spurs will beat the Lakers this playoffs, health permitting. It's going to be a series for the ages but the Spurs will pull through it (like always) and will face Boston in the Finals. That will be our biggest Finals test ever.
Let me just rephrase: I am far more afraid of Boston than LA, it's not even close. Just take a look what happened to LA once a fair matchup (without scheduling help and injury problems) faced them. They were beaten 2-0 thru 2, 3-1 thru 4 and 4-2 through 6 - Boston dominated that series, it wasn't even close.
A healthy spurs team will be more than LA's D can handle, but not vice versa. Our team D will be just enough to force Kobe in ballhog mode, since Pau is one of those players that is all-star talent but not a leader or a big game finisher. We owned him bad in 04 and during the regular seasons since then.
Last edited by z0sa; 12-17-2008 at 02:06 PM.
My observations on the lakers:
I don't think Kobe is selfish. He still hasn't figured out when to be selfish and when not to be.
Bynum isn't a bust, but the pre-season hype that he gathered doesn't justify his value. He's an average center (on some days, he's above average).
Gasol is what moves this team forward, and they sure aren't elite without him.
Fisher (also insert Farmer) is getting schooled by every point guard in the nba.
Sasha is still a and he's soon going to be out of the Laker's rotation.
Phil Jackson isn't doing that good a job this year and quite frankly the players no longer respect him. BTW if Bynum had a jab at Popovich like he did with Phil, Pop will go all medieval on his ass.
Radmanovich is playing like crap and with very little confidence at the moment.
In summary, the Lakers just don't have character. It's like they are expecting the opposing team to lose.
However every team would love to have the above problems with a 21-3 record. BTW they are going to get better, but at this rate they don't stand a chance against the Celtics.
And because work is really boring here are some examples of speedy PG's and tall athletic wings who have torched LA this year:
Speed at point guard:
Iverson-25 points (12 free throws so great job keeping him out of the paint LA)
Derrick Rose-25 points
Nate Robinson- 33 points(12 free throws so just like A.I. had no problem getting inside)
Chris Paul- 30 points
TJ Ford- 21 points
Devin Harris-21 points (13 free throws)
The Suns have the same problem against these type of PG's, so I know how much it can hurt a team playing Tony Parker in a playoff series.
Height at the wing:
John Salmons- 24, 21, 26 points
Danny Granger- 32 points
Grant Hill-23 points
Caron Butler-26 points
Thaddeus Young- 20 points
Al Thorton-22 points
So when people say LA can beat Boston this year that's pretty laughable considering Pierce and Rondo are both a complete mismatch to their entire team.
Funny stuff.
The Lakers are nowhere near their potential right now. And they're 21-3 (best start in Laker franchise history).
I'm sure if Dirk had a HOF center who could average close to 40 points in the finals he would have 3 rings by now. They both have the same resume as the best player on their team: one finals appearance, one MVP they didn't deserve, not a whole lot else.
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