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    Maybe, maybe not. I could certainly argue that Ghandi was in control of his emotions. His life was an example of his willpower.

    Losing a child like that for the average person..... it would set off those chemicals in our brain that leads us to be angry. Anger uncontrolled leads to violence usually, humans being a Great Ape we are prone to violence. Logical path would be revenge, whatever we think would help make us feel better and right the wrong.

    With Gandhi though, I believe he was in control of himself. Anger wouldn't rule his thought process. I believe he wouldn't have changed his tune, but that's only an assumption, same as yours.

    Didn't God forgive us for what we did to his only Son, Jesus?

    "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"

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    Maybe, maybe not. I could certainly argue that Ghandi was in control of his emotions. His life was an example of his willpower.

    Losing a child like that for the average person..... it would set off those chemicals in our brain that leads us to be angry. Anger uncontrolled leads to violence usually, humans being a Great Ape we are prone to violence. Logical path would be revenge, whatever we think would help make us feel better and right the wrong.

    With Gandhi though, I believe he was in control of himself. Anger wouldn't rule his thought process. I believe he wouldn't have changed his tune, but that's only an assumption, same as yours.

    Didn't God forgive us for what we did to his only Son, Jesus?

    "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"
    All good points, but I wonder what Ghandi's take on punishment (NOT revenge) for such a crime would be. Surely he didn't believe such a heinous thing should go unpunished.

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    Maybe, maybe not. I could certainly argue that Ghandi was in control of his emotions. His life was an example of his willpower.

    Losing a child like that for the average person..... it would set off those chemicals in our brain that leads us to be angry. Anger uncontrolled leads to violence usually, humans being a Great Ape we are prone to violence. Logical path would be revenge, whatever we think would help make us feel better and right the wrong.

    With Gandhi though, I believe he was in control of himself. Anger wouldn't rule his thought process. I believe he wouldn't have changed his tune, but that's only an assumption, same as yours.

    Didn't God forgive us for what we did to his only Son, Jesus?

    "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"
    ................. If someone harms one of my kids, they will not fair very well.

    God forbid if someone killed one of my kids.........I would bust a cap in their ass and would not blink in doing it.

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    No, they should kill the !
    Anyone who harms kids should deserve to die as well. Regardless if the media feeds it to us or not!
    I don't think she should be killed. I think she should have to LIVE on death row. Prisons should do what they are supposed to do and stop catering to these convicts. She should have to live every day in a hole and not get the get out of life free card

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    MiamiHeat I'm not really clear on what point you are trying to make here. Are you wailing on the media for their blatant manipulation of our emotions for their own ratings/financial gain? Well then knock yourself out. Or are you blasting the degradation of the priorities and morals of our society in general? If so, I may just join you. But the fact that there are thousands of missing/murdered children does not justify the fact that you are speaking disparagingly about one innocent little girl to get your point across. That's what is making you look like an ignorant jackass. And I know exactly what ignorant means.

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    I really can not believe someone said we should care about important things like money, instead of a murdered child...

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    I really can not believe someone said we should care about important things like money, instead of a murdered child...
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    I really cannot believe that someone said they can't believe there are ignorant posters on this board.

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    MiamiHeat, if you go ahead and break down the facts and cir stances of every child murder in here I'd bet you'd get a lot of feedback and concern from the folks who post here.

    People are focused on this one because of the media coverage surrounding it...good call. I don't know why that should be shocking at all. I understand that you wanted to make a point but you failed miserably.







    As for the mom, she needs life in prison...at a minimum. Her folks should be charged with aiding in the attempted cover-up.

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    As for the mom, she needs life in prison...at a minimum. Her folks should be charged with aiding in the attempted cover-up.
    Sure as seems that way.

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    I don't see anyone caring about all the hundreds of other cases that happen. This one though, because the media fed it to us. Is she the president's daughter or something? What is so important? Nothing, that's what. And the population (you and I) feed right into their crap and worry about insignificant things like this instead of worrying about actual IMPORTANT things - such as everything that's wrong with our country. National debt skyrocketing, politicians selling Senate seats, bankrupt social security system, corrupt health care system, government $700 billion bailouts on companies like AIG that are now using the money to kill compe ion and host private expensive retreats, CEO's making 200million dollar salaries while the average worker makes 8 dollars an hour, how 97% of the government's income tax revenue comes from the poor - those who make under 30k a year, should I go on?

    If your point was to say "We can talk about whatever we want" Well duh? That's dumb to point out.




    Let's go by odds here. She wasn't going to be anything important. Just another ant in the ant colony. Unless you are under some illusion of grandeur, you and I are insignificant ants in the grand scheme of things. We are not important. With bad parenting (her party-goer mother) and no father, her childhood is already on the wrong path. 99.9% chance she is just another average person, pretty much guaranteed. Nothing wrong with that, but what makes the Anthony case MORE SPECIAL than the rest???

    The answer is she isn't any more special than anyone else. The news is using Anthony's case for ratings. That's what they do - they exploit stories for money - and that's what my problem with it is. It's ratings so they can get you and me to worry about who killed the Anthony girl and then turn around sell commercial spots with the ratings they get. It's manipulation and causes distraction from important things.





    I get it. You care about kids you have never met that you see on corporate news because everyone is important to you. Well, at least the ones we catch on TV before going out to Starbucks. I wonder how the parents of little Johnny feel. You know, that family that had their little son kidnapped and murdered, but aren't on TV? I wonder if they ever think why didn't their sons case get this much attention? What makes their son undeserving?

    Yes it's bad what happened to that child, it's not the first time this year or even this month. It happens all the time, in every country, every year, for all of human history. Get over your righteous at ude about other people voicing an opinion on what they see as wrong in our society.
    Dude, nobody can deny that there's some really ed up going on in the world right now. Yes, there are some really corrupt people out there that should have to pay for their crimes, but you've got a really ed up sense of evil if you can compare financial corruption with murder. "kill[ing the] competion" and killing a child is not even remotely the same thing.

    And I know families of other victims would at least agree with you that this case is no more important than theirs (though you're an idiot if you think they'd agree this case is not important, where petty financial problems are - and no I don't think the things you listed are petty, but in relation to murder - yes, they are). But the difference is the other families probably at least show some concern for their situation. This poor child died and it takes the media bringing it to the public's attention for someone to become concerned about the situation (since the family themselves don't seem to show the concern you'd expect).

    So you've made your point that you have no concern for this sitution. Fine. This thread is meant for people who do give a damn. So move along.

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    I say an eye for an eye will make everyone SEE that you cant do this kinda .
    +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any of Ghandi's children were murdered. If they had been he might have sung a different tune.
    this one too +1

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    I don't think she should be killed. I think she should have to LIVE on death row. Prisons should do what they are supposed to do and stop catering to these convicts. She should have to live every day in a hole and not get the get out of life free card

    you can pay to have her live her life in prison or i can pay for the bullet.
    which do you think is cheaper?

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    I don't see anyone caring about all the hundreds of other cases that happen. This one though, because the media fed it to us. Is she the president's daughter or something? What is so important? Nothing, that's what. And the population (you and I) feed right into their crap and worry about insignificant things like this instead of worrying about actual IMPORTANT things - such as everything that's wrong with our country. National debt skyrocketing, politicians selling Senate seats, bankrupt social security system, corrupt health care system, government $700 billion bailouts on companies like AIG that are now using the money to kill compe ion and host private expensive retreats, CEO's making 200million dollar salaries while the average worker makes 8 dollars an hour, how 97% of the government's income tax revenue comes from the poor - those who make under 30k a year, should I go on?

    If your point was to say "We can talk about whatever we want" Well duh? That's dumb to point out.




    Let's go by odds here. She wasn't going to be anything important. Just another ant in the ant colony. Unless you are under some illusion of grandeur, you and I are insignificant ants in the grand scheme of things. We are not important. With bad parenting (her party-goer mother) and no father, her childhood is already on the wrong path. 99.9% chance she is just another average person, pretty much guaranteed. Nothing wrong with that, but what makes the Anthony case MORE SPECIAL than the rest???

    The answer is she isn't any more special than anyone else. The news is using Anthony's case for ratings. That's what they do - they exploit stories for money - and that's what my problem with it is. It's ratings so they can get you and me to worry about who killed the Anthony girl and then turn around sell commercial spots with the ratings they get. It's manipulation and causes distraction from important things.





    I get it. You care about kids you have never met that you see on corporate news because everyone is important to you. Well, at least the ones we catch on TV before going out to Starbucks. I wonder how the parents of little Johnny feel. You know, that family that had their little son kidnapped and murdered, but aren't on TV? I wonder if they ever think why didn't their sons case get this much attention? What makes their son undeserving?

    Yes it's bad what happened to that child, it's not the first time this year or even this month. It happens all the time, in every country, every year, for all of human history. Get over your righteous at ude about other people voicing an opinion on what they see as wrong in our society.
    No one has said this case is any more important than any other child who is murdered. They are all important to those who care and apparently none of them are important to you. That's fine. This case is in the media, so people are talking about it. But it doesn't mean that people think it's "more important" than any other.

    And yes, I care about kids that I have never met. The ones in the news, the ones out of the news. The ones that are abused, the ones that are killed. Caring about kids being murdered doesn't distract me from caring about other issue of importance to me. No matter how many times a story is on the news, I'm smart enough to figure out what matters to ME. I'm sure you are too.

    I do what I can for my own friends and family. I give time/money to those less fortunate, and at the end of the day - that's all I can do.

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    Say that Kori! Break that off!

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any of Ghandi's children were murdered. If they had been he might have sung a different tune.
    Wrong.

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    When did I say murdering a child is OK?

    This is what I mean. We are getting dumber by the decade.
    if you really think the media doesnt talk enough about the economy or blgojevich or anything along those matters, maybe you should try turnign on a tv to something otehr than wheel of fortune.

    I don't think she should be killed. I think she should have to LIVE on death row. Prisons should do what they are supposed to do and stop catering to these convicts. She should have to live every day in a hole and not get the get out of life free card
    why should i pay for her to live her life in prison? kill the , if shes guilty. i will pay for the bullet, drugs for the needle, rope for the noose, electricity bill for the electrocution. whatever it is. peole on death row are nothing but a dreg on society.


    and to miamihieat, who cares what ghandi says. just bc ghandi says something doesnt mean i have to beileve in it or live my life that way.

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    Very well, Mr. Ghandi. Tell me all about it - which child, when, under what cir stances? Reveal to me my error.

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    The meter reader who led authorities last week to remains believed to be those of Caylee Anthony called police four months ago, directing them three times to same site, authorities said Thursday.

    At a news conference, Capt. Angelo Nieves, an Orange County Sheriff's Department commander, said investigators are looking into whether the tips, called in August 11, 12 and 13, were properly followed up.

    In one of those phone calls, the meter reader reported seeing a gray bag on the side of the road, Nieves said. On August 13, a deputy responded to the site and did a "cursory search" but found nothing, Nieves said.

    Casey Anthony, 22, faces charges including first-degree murder in the June disappearance of her daughter, Caylee, who was 2 at the time. Remains described as being those of a small child were found last week a half-mile from Casey Anthony's parents' home, in the area where the meter reader first directed police.

    Nieves said police were getting more information from the tipster and the deputy who responded to the tips. He said the department was investigating the "thoroughness" of the deputy's response but would not identify the deputy.

    The meter reader "is not a suspect," Nieves said. "He is a credible witness."

    Nieves' latest announcement is raising questions about whether police missed several chances to find remains believed to be Caylee's.

    The meter reader is not the only one, or the first, to have pointed police toward the site containing the remains.

    KioMarie Cruz, Casey Anthony's childhood friend, also told police to investigate the same wooded area near Hidden Oaks Elementary School a month before the meter reader, according to CNN affiliate WFTV.


    In an interview with detectives, according to WFTV, Cruz said that she and Anthony "pretty much used to hang out there most of our time," would "snack on food for hours" and went there to "get away from our parents."

    The sheriff's office followed up on that tip, but the wooded area was covered in floodwaters, preventing a search. Nieves said the water may have been present at the time of the meter reader's tips as well.

    Nieves also said Thursday that searchers combing the site after the skull's discovery had found "significant skeletal remains" consistent with those of a small child on the outer perimeter of the search area.

    The area will be enlarged, and processing and searching of the site will continue, probably into the weekend, he said.

    Some of the remains have been sent to the FBI lab in Quantico, Virginia, in an effort to identify them. Authorities have said the remains are believed to be Caylee's, but an identification is pending.

    Sheriff's spokesman Carlos Padilla said last week that authorities believe the remains are Caylee's for three reasons: No other children have been reported missing in the area; the remains are consistent with those of a child of Caylee's age; and the remains were found near the home of the grandparents, where the 2-year-old and her mother were living just before Caylee disappeared.

    FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said Monday that he did not know when tests would be complete, but an attorney for Anthony's parents said the FBI is likely to have results "within the next week."

    Casey Anthony could face a sentence of life in prison if convicted. Prosecutors said this month that they would not seek the death penalty.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/18/...ony/index.html

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    Now that we know. R.I.P.

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    Wasn't me.

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    The trial is about to start and I hope she gets the death penalty.

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    I'm watching your trial online.

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