Smoking ban extended to bars and pool halls in Corpus Christi

[Blake]

ok

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

The point is that you feel people and business owners should have the right to blow around a giant cloud of toxic, poisonous gas in places such as bars, pool halls and night clubs, and that if I don't like poisonous toxic gas, then I should just piss off because it's their cons utional right to blow around toxic, poisonous gas in a public domain.

Makes perfect sense.

Toxic, poisonous gas now, eh?

Have there been new studies or are people still parroting the flawed, policy driven EPA study?

[leemajors]

Then go drink and shoot pool in the bar that says "no smoking". How dense are you. Don't want smoke don't go where it is. The bar smoke can only affect you in the bar. Period.

You can't be affected by the poisonous gases if you don't enter. Its not your right to enter. You aren't required to nor forced to.

You do not have a right to enter its a priveledge not a right.

that could be any bar in corpus man!

[Blake]

Toxic, poisonous gas now, eh?

Have there been new studies or are people still parroting the flawed, policy driven EPA study?

I already posted my link. Feel free to share if you can one up that.

Nothing better than a drive by poster.

[Blake]

THE ING POINT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO BE AN OCCUPANT. THEY CAN LEGALLY REMOVE YOU. ITS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO ENTER A PRIVATE PLACE OF BUSINESS. ITS YOUR ING LUXURY AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE SAID PLACE OF BUSINESS THEN LEAVE.

You realize you are a big f-ing hypocrite, right?

All I gotta say is "I allow smoking in my grocery store. If you don't like it, take you and your 4 year old somewhere else."

You're ridiculous. You have to either go all in on this or all out. You can't stick your foot in the pool and call it swimming.

[BacktoBasics]

You realize you are a big f-ing hypocrite, right?

All I gotta say is "I allow smoking in my grocery store. If you don't like it, take you and your 4 year old somewhere else."

You're ridiculous. You have to either go all in on this or all out. You can't stick your foot in the pool and call it swimming.

100% right its just not hypocritcal its compromise. MY ENTIRE ING POINT IS THAT I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE BECAUSE I SEE THE BENEFIT OF A NON SMOKING GROCERY STORE BUT NO BENEFIT OF A NON SMOKING BAR. GIVE A LITTLE TO PRESERVE ADULT ONLY RIGHTS JUST LIKE I'M WILLING TO GIVE A LITTLE TO PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF THE 4 YEAR OLD WHO'S STUCK SHOPPING WITH MOM.

I see a ing benefit from banning smoke in the majority of public places but to force your will on an adult only establishment is too ing much. Enough its the straw that broke the camels back for me.

YOU ING EXTREMIST WANT IT ALL YOUR WAY. GREEDY SELFISH UNAMERICAN WADS.

[BacktoBasics]

Seriously I'm done now. You selfish assholes destroy the very best things about this country because of what you can't have. Go find your own toys to play with and stop trying to with your neighbors.

[Joe Camel]

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I already posted my link. Feel free to share if you can one up that.

Nothing better than a drive by poster.

Just one for now:

It is clear that Congress intended EPA to disseminate findings from the information researched and gathered. In this case, EPA publicly committed to a conclusion before research had begun; excluded industry by violating the Act's procedural requirements; adjusted established procedure and scientific norms to validate the Agency's public conclusion, and aggressively utilized the Act's authority to disseminate findings to establish a de facto regulatory scheme intended to restrict Plaintiffs' products and to influence public opinion.

http://tobaccodo ents.org/pm/2046458056-8058.html

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Or two:

The statistical evidence does not appear to support a conclusion that there are substantial health effects of passive smoking.... Even at the greatest exposure levels....very few or even no deaths can be attributed to ETS.

http://www.forces.org/evidence/files/crs11-95.htm

[The Reckoning]

if second-hand smoke was harmful, why can't i ever get a contact high?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

And three, from the WHO:

Our results indicate no association between childhood exposure to ETS and lung cancer risk.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...?dopt=Abstract

[Lackluster]

Kramer: You know, just because a person's a smoker, that doesn't mean he's not a human being.

Jerry: It doesn't?

[JoeChalupa]

I've got no problem with smoking establishments.

[ploto]

While I like smoking bans because I believe it to be a public health issue, I will agree with B2B on one thing. Before the smoking ban existed in SA, I specifically went to restaurants that were all non-smoking. I even told the people who owned them or ran them that this was one of the major reasons I ate there. Sure, it would have been nice to go to some of the other ones where I liked the food, but I chose not to go because I can not stand the smoke. It would be nice to go to a bar and relax with friends and have a drink, but I can not stand the smoke. So, I go instead to a restaurant with a bar area that is non-smoking and have my glass of wine there.

[DarkReign]

....and have my glass of wine there.

Where to start with this...

At least I know who I am being outnumbered by, I guess. Metrosexuals.

[balli]

At least I know who I am being outnumbered by, I guess. Metrosexuals.

Every single bar in SLC that I would have socials contacts at, allows smoking. SLC is a cold ass climate. That means that if want to go to a bar where I actually know people, I have to bundle up in a pair of heavy ass jeans, an undershirt, a shirt and a jacket. Everybody here has nice jackets; I have nice jackets. And then, I walk into a cloud of smoke that utterly destroys my skin, lungs, hair, freshly laundered clothing and of most importance, my nice ass fleece or s . And then, later, when I get home I can't just go to bed. No, I have to peel off these layers of morbidly stinky clothing and jump into the shower. If I'm too drunk and don't shower, my sheets, comforter, pillow cases and pillows get covered in smelly ass soot that other people inhaled and blew all over me. And so while I'm in the shower, I can literally see and smell the yellow nastiness pouring out of my hair and off my skin and I drunkenly curse the idiots who caused it. And then, when I wake up the next morning, I open up my bathroom door and a noxious smell invades my hung-over nostrils, emitting from a pile of formerly clean clothing, which now sits in a heaping mound of odorous decay. And furthermore, it [the stank] mixed with steam produced by my previous night's shower and has turned my bathroom into a quagmire of cigarette humidity. An so hungover, I open up my bathroom window to the 19 degree cold, so the room can air out while I'm busy washing my clothes.

If wanting to avoid that is metrosexual, sign me the up.

Oh and, enjoy your rights.

[leemajors]

Where to start with this...

At least I know who I am being outnumbered by, I guess. Metrosexuals.

females who have a glass of wine are metrosexuals?

[Richard Cranium]

I can count the number of people I know who smoke on one hand. On the other hand I don't really mind smoke that much as long as I'm not eating..

[DarkReign]

females who have a glass of wine are metrosexuals?

ploto is female?

If so, no.

[DarkReign]

Every single bar in SLC that I would have socials contacts at, allows smoking. SLC is a cold ass climate. That means that if want to go to a bar where I actually know people, I have to bundle up in a pair of heavy ass jeans, an undershirt, a shirt and a jacket. Everybody here has nice jackets; I have nice jackets. And then, I walk into a cloud of smoke that utterly destroys my skin, lungs, hair, freshly laundered clothing and of most importance, my nice ass fleece or s . And then, later, when I get home I can't just go to bed. No, I have to peel off these layers of morbidly stinky clothing and jump into the shower. If I'm too drunk and don't shower, my sheets, comforter, pillow cases and pillows get covered in smelly ass soot that other people inhaled and blew all over me. And so while I'm in the shower, I can literally see and smell the yellow nastiness pouring out of my hair and off my skin and I drunkenly curse the idiots who caused it. And then, when I wake up the next morning, I open up my bathroom door and a noxious smell invades my hung-over nostrils, emitting from a pile of formerly clean clothing, which now sits in a heaping mound of odorous decay. And furthermore, it [the stank] mixed with steam produced by my previous night's shower and has turned my bathroom into a quagmire of cigarette humidity. An so hungover, I open up my bathroom window to the 19 degree cold, so the room can air out while I'm busy washing my clothes.

If wanting to avoid that is metrosexual, sign me the up.

Oh and, enjoy your rights.

Goto a non-smoking bar.

Problem = solved.

Boy, youd think with all you whiney non-smokers bleeding all over their floors about the big bad wolf, that your needs would be met via the marketplace and your demand.

Guess not, huh?

[The Reckoning]

lol people who smoke ganja but hate cigs

[balli]

Goto a non-smoking bar.

Problem = solved.

Boy, youd think with all you whiney non-smokers bleeding all over their floors about the big bad wolf, that your needs would be met via the marketplace and your demand.

Guess not, huh?

Like I said,

Every single bar in SLC that I would have socials contacts at, allows smoking... if want to go to a bar where I actually know people

I'm not going to try to change years of tradition and try to force my homies to go to a new place. Besides, non-smoking bars don't exist here. I could go to a non-smoking tavern or a pub, get a nice steak and beer. But nah, if I want shoot pool or pound mind erasers at a quarter to one in the morning, I have no choice but to enter a smoking establishment.

The marketplace isn't meeting my demand for non-smoking bars, because bar owners make money off tobacco products, don't give a about my health and they know that not enough people are going to stay home just because of the cigarette smoke, to cut into their bottom line. The marketplace has failed. Public demand is going unmet so that bar owners can keep their cigarette machines rolling by serving the minority.

lol people who smoke ganja but hate cigs

If you don't see the difference between a few clean ass bong snaps of pure chronic smoke per day, and several hours spent submersing yourself and your clothing into enormous clouds of other people previously inhaled, disgusting tobacco smoke, I just feel bad for you.

[DarkReign]

I'm not going to try to change years of tradition and try to force my homies to go to a new place. Besides, non-smoking bars don't exist here. I could go to a non-smoking tavern or a pub, get a nice steak and beer. But nah, if I want shoot pool or pound mind erasers at a quarter to one in the morning, I have no choice but to enter a smoking establishment.

The marketplace isn't meeting my demand for non-smoking bars, because bar owners make money off tobacco products, don't give a about my health and they know that not enough people are going to stay home just because of the cigarette smoke, to cut into their bottom line. The marketplace has failed. Public demand is going unmet so that bar owners can keep their cigarette machines rolling by serving the minority.

Then why not lobby your legislators for non-smoking bars instead of a smoking ban?

Your train of thought makes no sense.

[Little Smokey]

GO DAMMIT I"M GOING TO MELT. YES YOU ING STUPID SELFISH MORONIC ING UNAMERICAN PIECE OF ING . BUILD YOUR OWN NONSMOKING HOLE AND GO THERE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MAKE YOUR OWN.

OH ING NO FREE WILL AND CONS UTIONAL RIGHTS I HAVE A MOTHER ING OPINION AND GOD DAMMIT I'M GOING TO WILL MY ING STUPID UNCONS UIONAL BACKASSED ED OPINION ON EVERY ING SINGLE ONE OF YOU BECAUSE MY NAMES BLAKE AND IF I CAN'T PLAY THE WAY I WANT TO ING PLAY AT YOUR POOL THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE THE RULES CHANGED TO ACCOMODATE MY SELFISH SELFABSORD ED UP WAY OF WANTING TO DO THINGS BECAUSE GOD DAMMIT I WANT MY MOTHER ING WAAAAAAAY WAAAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHH DO IT THE WAY I WANT IT BECAUSE ITS MY RIGHT TO INVADE YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS EVEN THOUGH ITS ING PRIVATE PROPERTY.

YOU YOU IGN UNAMERICAN PIECE OF GOD DAMN . ING UP MY COUNTRY WITH YOUR OPINIONATED UNWILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE AND BE REASONABLE. I ING HATE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY. I HOPE YOU GET SECOND HAND SMOKE LUNG CANCER AND DIE AFTER LIVING WITH ONE OF THOSE VIBRATING VOICE ING THINGS FOR 5 YEARS OF ING .

You want your goat back?