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Well I did overreact. I will admit to that. I posted that right after the game and had to go work shortly after posting that. Like I said to a previous poster it was not my intention to make it the way all you guys are taking it.
I agree with the Billups match up. I thought Tony's D was very good that game, but since that game I think he's declined. I just don't think he's putting the same amount of effort in. Also, if Parker defended Paul as well as you say he did why did Pop have Bonner double teaming him? I think George Hill played better D on Paul.
As for Bibby and Westbrook I don't really rate either of those guys as hard covers.
Maybe watching the Celtics play aggressive D gets me mad when I see poor efforts on that end of the court. The Spurs are better than what they are showing. The OKC game was an indicator that the Spurs had slacked off yet again. What does it take for these guys to focus in for more than a few games at a time?
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Id have to agree. When we dont make those 3 point shots. We dont win most games. We surely arent gonna win against the Hornets or the Lakers. As for who Pop shoulda gone with. I have no problems with his decision making this game. NO is just better right now.
Sometimes it's as easy as hitting open shots. The Spurs hit at their normal clip in the fourth quarter, and it's a different story.
It's ridiculous to complain about defense after a game where you held a team like NO to 90 points on their court.
If they make shots last night they win. They didn't, and they lost.
So defensive breakdowns in the 4th quarter of a tight game don't matter?
What you said is something Mike D'Antoni would have said back in the day.
Amen
Amen again, brother!
So all those people that said to me in this thread that the defense is OK what do you have to say now???
How about Michael Finley?
Uh, the defense isn't the problem right now.
Sad,but true
Parker is ting tonight
Parker sucks
Someone please validate or discredit this ... I can almost bet that the opposing starting PG has a better than average PPG etc when they play the Spurs. Tony Parker is a matador on defense. I wish I had numbers to really back this up but as a Spurs fan who watches nearly every game I can almost guarantee it. Regardless of those who say Tony is just the fall guy, he sux balls on D. Admit it. You can say he funnels the guards to the post but , George hill plays better D than Tony IMO.
Nelson exploded in the second half after going 1-for-5 in the first half. Props to this thread for finally coming thru
Uh, not even close. Parker has more than doubled the scoring of the opposing point guard this season. Per 48 minutes, he's scoring 31.8 points. The opposing point guard scores 15.2 points per 48 minutes.
Sometimes I gotta wonder what basketball Spurs fans watch.
Parker's been the fall guy for the last half decade. And yeah, Hill is pretty damn good at D. That's why he's in the NBA.
That said, for the season, the opposing point guard scores more points per minute when Hill is on the court compared to Parker.
both Tony and Mason look terrible right now on the defensive end.
That was not the poster's claim. His claim was that opposing PG's score above their own average PPG against Tony. I have no idea if he is right or not, but at least that was what he claimed.
Good point. I'm not sure what posts timvp was reading . . .
But yeah, it's still wrong. The average point guard scores ~17 points per 48 minutes.
But maybe all the point guards usually score less than their average ppg when they play against defensive big men like TD,Howard,Chandler,Camby.....Good point. I'm not sure what posts timvp was reading . . .
But yeah, it's still wrong. The average point guard scores ~17 points per 48 minutes.
Parker's D is not really good in the last games but it happens the same with more players of the team
Tony had up and down games defensively. CP3 did anything he wanted last night, but then again, Paul does that to every team with the exception of the Celtics. There was one game this season where he was stinking up the joint, and Pop pulled him out for the last 5 minutes or so of the game. We still won that game, but Pop said afterward that he stunk but 'He can do that, he's human'. I thought today Nelson really burned him, but I think Tony was tired. He got to a point in today's game where he was afraid to drive with Howard being there for the block and he wouldn't take the open shot either. And when Nelson drives past him like nobody is there, then it looks even worse.
That said, he had a bad game. It happens to everyone. He'll bounce back. Just gotta have patience.
Wow. I thought the thread starter had a valid observation. He wasn't blaming Tony for the loss just pointing out his D on Paul wasn't good enough.
Complacent and lazy would be the best way to describe Tony's effort on D. No one can stop Paul's effectiveness but you can make life a lot more difficult for him.
Hill was an option. Not sure why Pop didn't go with him.
Send Tony with Manu, you know to spark the bench
DO spurs have a draft pick this summer or does it go to another team for the Kurt Thomas deal!!
Who has more trade Value? Manu or TP and if you where to trade one of them! what player should they get in return?
Let me know!!!
LOL. Wow, doggin me out like that. Looks like i touched a nerve Timvp and Thanks Ploto for clarifying my response. Timvp your a Parker homer man. Face it, we all watch the Spurs every damn night and I know Tony is the man on offense, but defending his weak ass D is criminal. I again will reiterate (and I wish someone here was a big enough numbers geek to know this) I personally feel that our opponents starting PG vs Tony Parker has a higher than normal PPG. And for Hill, Im glad you admit that his D is better than Tony. Thats all i was saying. GO SPURS
Now they can be at the same level or very similar but IMO Tony has more trade value because he's younger and even he can improve.But this season it's not the year for trade one of them.We still have a team that can have a chance to win.
In the future I would trade one or both for one franchise player who let us have chance to win the NBA in the next 5-10 years.Of course it's not easy to find a new TD.That's obvious.
But I don't like to play only to be in the playoffs without any chance to win and it's difficult to change it without a trade or without a high pick in the draft that you can have if you made the playoffs.
We don't like it but we have to begin the reconstruction of the team soon(2-3 years or even less) and probably we will have to make a big trade to do it or we will have to miss the playoffs to go to the draft.
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