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i don't each much red meat, but then again i have a deep freeze full of ground venison, venison ham steaks, venison sausage, and the like. i just don't have to buy it. But i do love sweet, delicious chicken and turkey.
Considering that the spare parts of cows are ground up and added into the feed used for other cows, the inbreeding on cattle ranches, the deplorable filth that these animals are raised in, the caulk-gun-sized antibiotics to combat the inherent disease associated with such filth, the steroids used to beef them up faster and the myriad of inefficent and cruel ways I have seen cattle killed one after another after another after another...
If early humans were vegetarians, we would have never left the savannas. The high protein diet coupled with the hunt itself (the planning, the cunning, the coordination of multiple early hominids) propelled humans to the top of the food chain.
You vegans/vegetarians can thank meat-eaters for your ability to protest at all. Youre welcome.
i don't each much red meat, but then again i have a deep freeze full of ground venison, venison ham steaks, venison sausage, and the like. i just don't have to buy it. But i do love sweet, delicious chicken and turkey.
If someone doesn't like eating meat or doesn't believe in it, that's all well and dandy. Keep it a personal choice and let me have mine.
Acting like people are wrong for eating meat is like denying evolution. We weren't the first carnivores to roam this planet, and we won't be the last.
I don't disagree with you, BUT, the Evolution is not over yet.
If someone doesn't like eating meat or doesn't believe in it, that's all well and dandy. Keep it a personal choice and let me have mine.
Acting like people are wrong for eating meat is like denying evolution. We weren't the first carnivores to roam this planet, and we won't be the last.
Totally fair point.
Yup. I also recommend Six Modern Plagues, which discusses how many diseases have been created by humans. Among them is Mad Cow Disease which was caused by the meat and bone meal that you were just discussing.
The idea that we are born to eat meat does not impress me at all. We may have an inclination to do it, but we have also been bestowed with the ability to make important choices and flex our will power. Humans becoming civilized is a good example of this. Evolution dictates that the less fortunate should be culled out of the gene pool, but this is inhumane.
It may not impress you, but go look in a mirror and see that you have sharp teeth suited for cutting meat in addition to those more useful for eating vegetables. It's clear as day that natural selection favored humans who ate meat, or it wouldn't have screwed around choosing ancestors with those teeth.
Bingo. Your skeletal structure, bone mass, brain size ratio and eye location say youre a predator. Sorry, herbivore's stay in the wild...forever.
Now, Guru made a good point. Evolution hasnt stopped by any means, so people embracing a non-meat diet is fine. Its a luxury for civilized humans.
But just dont think we meat-eaters are somehow inhumane. The vegans/vegetarians deny their lineage consciously, we dont. Thats all.
Some of the comments in this thread make me think that this is hardly a compelling argument.
Come on, name names. What specifically is inhumane? People talking about how they like to cook their steaks?
what does that even mean in regards to this thread....
that one day we will all become flat teethed vegans?
Why discriminate against plants? It's only disgusting and a tragedy because it can cry in pain like us and it is cute.
I need to kill something to live. We all do--plant, fish, poultry, beef--it doesn't matter. The goal should be not to slaughter anything for the sake of it. The goal should be to take only what is needed and leave the rest alive.
I would be more concerned about deforestation of the Rainforest, Carbon emissions in the air, and pollution in our seas than the Cow or turkey I just ate.
I am an animal lover. I love animal slices seasoned and thrown on the pit and eaten with tortillas, guacamole, cheese, and a bunch of other stuff.
it's already been argued: "because animals are sentient"
but I wonder how far down the sentient chain it goes before it's considered "inhumane"
does it have to be mammal? What about reptile or insect?
So...it has to be able to respond to stimuli the way mammals do? Where's this argument during the abortion debate?
no kidding, right?
I don't really know, but I bet the vast majority of PETA'ers are also abortion rights activists.
What it means is that some day, everyone will look back and laugh at hot-dog eaters. Coming soon to a Geico commercial - "So simple, even a hot dog eater can comprehend it."
Does that help?
doubtful
I personally like to kill my own meat... and do it quite often.
I couldn't imagine being as disconnected as some of the people i read about are...
Veggie rules!
One vagitarian here!
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