No one wants Camby for a one year rental and he is old.
So everyone's already given up on Ian? Players do get injured. Boozer and Kenyon Martin are two power forwards who have had injuries and come back...it's not like an ankle injury is going to permanently end his career. It sucks it's taken this long but waiting on Ian is smarter than scrapping the team to get someone more expensive and maybe not as good.
I do.
He can rebound at a high level still.
He has an efficient lang range jumpshot.
He can finish at the basket.
He has great weak side defense.
He has good on ball defense.
He can run the break (Mobile)
Lets see, did i leave anything out?
An alternative could be to try to acquire and get something out of a player like Ryan Hollins. Although young, he is showing signs of life in his minutes given this season (albeit few minutes). Plus, with the addition of Diaw his time is likely to shrink again.
It's worth a shot, we need something. He's cheap, he can block shots, finish, run the break etc. Plus, his contract is up this year so there isn't a substantial commitment there. Maybe something like Udoka straight up. Or maybe something like a second round pick with Udoka.
I still like Ian, but there is nothing wrong with getting him with a reasonable trade. Who knows, he and Ian could be the compliment to our veteran bigs which would give us much needed versatility in the frontcourt.
Um, the Clippers have Diaw? I didn't know that. To add on, he is so expensive we have to give up one of our big three, a filler to get him. Not worth it.
Where does Ryan Hollins play genius? Then come back and comment.
Were we even talking about the Bobcats, where Diaw and Hollins is at? We are talking about the Clippers and Spurs where a supposedly trade from nowhere might happen.
Did you even read my original post? If you did, you'd see I added Hollins in there as an alternative. Given the addition of Diaw...(>>>minutes shrinkage<<<)....Come on man, are you telling me I can't add an alternative to the conversation?
a center who can defend out into the high post and can score around the low post proficiently is good enough. oberto would be great if he still remembered how to score. apparently he needs to be 2 inches away from the rim and 5 ft away from everyone else before he makes a basket. thomas is good but the spurs definitely needs some more presence in the interior. thomas can hit jump shots but can't take it near the rim and score after receiving a pass. this will take pressure off duncan and help against the lakers' gasol and bynum.
We will get nothing out of the Bobcats anyway. They need a scorer.Did you even read my original post? If you did, you'd see I added Hollins in there as an alternative. Given the addition of Diaw...(>>>minutes shrinkage<<<)....Come on man, are you telling me I can't add an alternative to the conversation?
Oberto is not scoring because popovich is not using him to score, in fact, he is not using him at all.
They won't be getting much of a scorer through trade unless they give up Wallace, and either way they have other tools to trade aside from Hollins to couple with Wallace. If you give up Wallace there is still a void to fill, so it's semi lateral. About five to seven of their current contracts come off the books next season, why not get something while you can (Solid role player and a pick, although Udoka is a free agent next season, a pick is better than nothing) unless you believe Hollins is something to hold onto.
I think he has upside to be a good role player.
They will not give up Wallace. However, if they do, I would take Gerald Wallace. Great help defender, defends three positions. He is quite a good slasher so he could get to the line more which is something the Spurs need. When we run small ball he could play the four. I just don't know what to give up for a Gerald Wallace package. Do we give up Ginobili(which brings the Bobcats back to square one) or our role players plus fillers? I am confused.
I wasn't referring to us acquiring G. Wallace.
I was just saying that, yes they need a scorer, and i'm not sure that Hollins is a magnificent trade tool for them to use in the acquisition of a scorer (Or any more than some other players they have).
That is all I meant.
We aren't giving up any of our top three players for the vast majority of players in this league. Certainly not G. Wallace.
How much is his salary? (Hollins) or Emeka Okafor's?
Oberto couldn't score twenty if he gets the shots, nor could he score ten consistently if he shoots when open. The man can't finish at three feet let alone twenty on a consistent basis. He is a glue man, a glue man who gets exposed a bit too much. I wouldn't move him, but I wouldn't start him. But, we don't have much there right now, so it's W/E.
Hollins is at roughly 970,000 expiring this year I think, and Okafor is at 9,500,000 and rising a mill per year each year through 13/14.
many people seem to be saying that we need courtney sims or should get him.
why dont the spurs sign him?
Let me use the ESPN trade machine and see what we got. Michael Finley has Bird rights!! Ryan Hollins has bird rights. Urgh.
To be honest I don't know much about him aside from his recent tear in the D-League, even so I still haven't seen him play so I cannot comment. Word around the campfire is that, "ChumpDumper" is the man to talk to about the D-League players.
Can we get Juwan Howard? The trade machine isn't updated.
I'm not sure he does much for us, or what we desire from him. It's pretty much not a substantial move.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=
How about this? Though it really does not make much sense for either team.
We all know how Jordan is a failure when it comes to making such decisions.
That isn't happening, even a failure (at GM) like MJ isn't doing that. We just need Hollins.
Hollins could just say no thanks to his Bird rights, no point risking to get him.
Guess we just have to wait for Ian Mahinmi then.
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