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    PG's run the offense, call the plays, and have the option of passing out at the last second to an open roger mason before they get their shot sent into the stands...

    I love TP, but it's the truth!!!
    The problem with your posts is you imply that RMJ is the only other player on the Spurs. Don't forget we Bonner, Manu, Bowen, Finley, Hill on the perimeter as well, not to mention Timmy who is around the basket as well for an easy 2. Actually RMJ's shooting % has seemed to fall off the last few games even though he has been open.

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    PG's run the offense, call the plays, and have the option of passing out at the last second to an open roger mason before they get their shot sent into the stands...

    I love TP, but it's the truth!!!
    So your proposal is the Spurs to run out the clock and pass it to Mason, assuming he's gonna be open everytime?
    Genius.

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    SJax could post other guards up, RMJ has not shown that ability as of yet.
    He is not as clutch yet, he could be, time will tell.

    The one thing that bugs me about RMJ is his dependency on the 3-ball, he doesn't drive the lane as much as he needs to, something SJax did better.
    I think the spurs as whole need to rely less on the three than they do, and get more offense from other areas, so I agree...but I do feel this is coming from the coaching staff's gameplan.

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    So your proposal is the Spurs to run out the clock and pass it to Mason, assuming he's gonna be open everytime?
    Genius.
    No what I'm saying is Parker needs to get blocked less, and ac ulate assists with more last second passes out of the lane to Mason.

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    The problem with your posts is you imply that RMJ is the only other player on the Spurs. Don't forget we Bonner, Manu, Bowen, Finley, Hill on the perimeter as well, not to mention Timmy who is around the basket as well for an easy 2. Actually RMJ's shooting % has seemed to fall off the last few games even though he has been open.
    As far as I've seen, RM is the one struggling who's struggling to find his way since TP is back.

    I think the reality is TP has struggled to get RM involved IN RYTHM. And that is the part that needs to be addressed...

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    No what I'm saying is Parker needs to get blocked less.
    When you're a slasher like Tony, blocks are inevitable.
    Why must it be assists? What's the problem with him just scoring if he's already in the lane? He passes out of the lane enough as it is.
    with more last second passes out of the lane to Mason.
    Why must it be Mason? We have other 3 point shooters who can shoot it from the corner. An even better one in Bruce.

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    When you're a slasher like Tony, blocks are inevitable.

    Why must it be assists? What's the problem with him just scoring if he's already in the lane? He passes out of the lane enough as it is.

    Why must it be Mason? We have other 3 point shooters who can shoot it from the corner. An even better one in Bruce.
    1) Tony has to lead the league in shots blocked in the lane...if you watch the games you know this is true...

    2) a blocked shot is not an assist, and an assist is better than getting pinned. When the other team has no interior D, TP can score in massive quan ies, but when they do, he spends all night on his back.

    3) Mason is the most promising outside shooter for the time being (if we get him in rythm): Bruce dissapeared last year late...Finley takes several weeks off at a time...and Mason is a killer.

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    1) Tony has to lead the league in shots blocked in the lane...if you watch the games you know this is true....
    I'll believe when you give me a link to the stat.
    2) a blocked shot is not an assist, and an assist is better than getting pinned. When the other team has no interior D, TP can score in massive quan ies, but when they do, he spends all night on his back..
    This isn't 03 Tony. He has a jumpshot now.
    3) Mason is the most promising outside shooter for the time being (if we get him in rythm): Bruce dissapeared last year late...Finley takes several weeks off at a time...and Mason is a killer.
    And let's just say what if, Mason isn't in the corner? What now?

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    Mason jr definitely needs more minutes and shots, and the balls needs to be in his hands probably 2-3 more possessions a game, EARLY in the shot clock.

    But Tony is not the one holding Mason jr down. You can thank Pop for that; his insatiable love for Finley has caused this. Surprisingly, RMJr's still coming in and getting double digits every game, rebounding well, and playing smart D. I hope Pop sees Mason jr is the future and continues to up his minutes.

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    I'll believe when you give me a link to the stat.

    This isn't 03 Tony. He has a jumpshot now.

    And let's just say what if, Mason isn't in the corner? What now?
    I looked...that stat is not kept as far as I can tell...

    If Tony is open, let him shoot...

    Mason shoots a nice three from the top of the arc. I say pass it to the open man. But I think Tony, if given the choice early in the game, has the choice between driving and getting his shooters involved and hot (not just Mason) he needs to get them involved.

    His drive will be there, but shooters need to shoot to find their stroke...

    If they can't then we know who we're going to in the fourth (tony)
    If they can, then tony sits in the fourth, along with the whole first team, cuz its a blowout.

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    Mason shoots a nice three from the top of the arc. I say pass it to the open man. But I think Tony, if given the choice early in the game, has the choice between driving and getting his shooters involved and hot (not just Mason) he needs to get them involved.

    His drive will be there, but shooters need to shoot to find their stroke...

    If they can't then we know who we're going to in the fourth (tony)
    If they can, then tony sits in the fourth, along with the whole first team, cuz its a blowout.
    So you're saying if Tony is open or capable of making the layup, he should go for it. If he's not then he should pass it to the open man(not just Mason even though you've been using his name throughout the thread).
    This isn't anything we didn't know before.

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    I looked...that stat is not kept as far as I can tell...

    If Tony is open, let him shoot...

    Mason shoots a nice three from the top of the arc. I say pass it to the open man. But I think Tony, if given the choice early in the game, has the choice between driving and getting his shooters involved and hot (not just Mason) he needs to get them involved.

    His drive will be there, but shooters need to shoot to find their stroke...

    If they can't then we know who we're going to in the fourth (tony)
    If they can, then tony sits in the fourth, along with the whole first team, cuz its a blowout.
    you're still here ?
    where are the quotes from Pop saying that Tony needs to pass more. I'm waiting ??

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    you're still here ?
    where are the quotes from Pop saying that Tony needs to pass more. I'm waiting ??
    Yeah, I looked, and couldn't find them.

    Do you remember Antonio Daniels? He was traded because he was a shoot first PG. Tony would not still be here if Kidd had chosen us, because Pop always wanted a true PG.

    Pop has adapted his style (and demands) over the last few seasons, and we're still winning, so no one is complaining including me...

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    So you're saying if Tony is open or capable of making the layup, he should go for it. If he's not then he should pass it to the open man(not just Mason even though you've been using his name throughout the thread).
    This isn't anything we didn't know before.
    I have watched Mason struggle, and I'm saying TP needs to make sure that all our best weapons are being used as effectively as possible...I've also seen him choose his lay up over Mason wide open at the three point line frequently over the past few (while mason has struggled) many times to a blocked result

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    Looked it up...and you couldn't be more wrong.
    Mason and Hill on the floor: +/- of 52.
    Mason and Parker: +/- of 28.


    Proves my point.
    You obviously don't know what +/- means.

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    You obviously don't know what +/- means.
    Pleases explain how these stats supports your contention, timvp.

    I'll be waiting

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    This thread insults my intelligence.

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    Pleases explain how these stats supports your contention, timvp.

    I'll be waiting
    It doesn't support or go against any claim in this thread.

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    i really think adding the age of the members would be a good thing for the forum. IMHO.

    i mean i really enjoy being there, but i wonder sometimes if i don't lose my time arguing with some kids. i could understand kids having such "stupid" and weird argumentation but i would certainly not lose my time answering then.

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    i really think adding the age of the members would be a good thing for the forum. IMHO.

    i mean i really enjoy being there, but i wonder sometimes if i don't lose my time arguing with some kids. i could understand kids having such "stupid" and weird argumentation but i would certainly not lose my time answering then.
    argumentation=not a word.
    Try "arguments" in it's place.
    Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, eh?

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    It doesn't support or go against any claim in this thread.
    truth is, they support the contention that Hill/Mason have been more effective together than Parker/mason.

    I said that, about two pages ago...

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    argumentation=not a word.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/argumentation

    ar⋅gu⋅men⋅ta⋅tion   /ˌɑrgyəmɛnˈteɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ahr-gyuh-men-tey-shuhn]

    –noun 1. the process of developing or presenting an argument; reasoning.
    2. discussion; debate; disputation: The lengthy argumentation tired many listeners.
    3. a discussion dealing with a controversial point.
    4. the setting forth of reasons together with the conclusion drawn from them.
    5. the premises and conclusion so set forth.
    6. argument (def. 5).

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    Origin:
    1400–50; late ME argumentacioun (< MF) < L argūmentātiōn- (s. of argūmentātiō). See argument, -ation
    You were saying?

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    this thread is an embarrasment to the forum. Kinda like a crackhead is an embarrasment to the neighborhood

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    I have watched Mason struggle, and I'm saying TP needs to make sure that all our best weapons are being used as effectively as possible...I've also seen him choose his lay up over Mason wide open at the three point line frequently over the past few (while mason has struggled) many times to a blocked result
    You're saying he needs to make sure that he makes the right decision every time and make the ball goes to the right person. Well no , that's what every player tries to do. Is that your way of saying he's hogging the ball?

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    PS: i clearly can make mistakes since english isn't my mother tongue. pointing it seems a lame thing but when the basher is wrong, it's just embarrassing for him.

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