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Clearly because I am trying to gain favor and act like I have cracked the code. Are you a life coach or something?As if he's not on a pedestal himself.
It would be a start.
If you have the patience you could sit through the first part of the Zeitgeist. About 60-70% of part one gives a relatively accurate depection of the relation. However some of the correlations and statements surrounding part one are based in opinion and are poorly founded. If you can watch it and pay close attention to whats founded based on fact vs. opinion and blind religion mongering there is a lot to be gained by it. Problem is that people either take the do entary for whole truth or dispute the entire thing because a small portion of it doesn't jive. Its why I almost never use it as a source because so few people are capable of lending credence to the legitimate parts even though it adds up and is verifiable. The pagan and astrological portions are undisputable fact because all you have to do go back and compare the dates with the calandar to see they match. Seems easy huh....for some its just too much work.
Clearly because I am trying to gain favor and act like I have cracked the code. Are you a life coach or something?As if he's not on a pedestal himself
Everyone sees how terrible you and Heat are at having a debate. You offer opinions as fact. I said that sin as well as belief are relative. I said that sin as in my belief system. I did clarify, but you are too naive to listen. Please point out one fact you have offered.
If you do not believe in God, how can one go to ?
I am a Professional Life Coach.
I don't have to act like anything. There isn't some magical code and Orphan Annie Ring Decoder. Its simple dates and times along with astrological bodies that have a direct relation with the life and times of Jesus Christ. Only they existed and correlated with dozens of gods before him. Even though
Look face I don't care to participate in a faith debate. Get it? I don't care about your opinion of sin. I'm done arguing it. I don't believe in sin, god, the devil, , heaven, moses, the ten commandments or Santa Claus. I don't care if you think thats an opinion because I'm not even debating it.
You want to debate the pagan calendar fine. You want to debate the relevance of other gods sharing significant dates as your Jesus Christ then fine lets debate. I'm offering it as opinion....I haven't even offered it as fact because we've failed to even discuss it you ing moron.
Wrong. I doubt you can explain the real meanings behind the bible any more than I can explain the meaning of your belief in science or whatever you do or don't believe in. I know that I am not believing a lie and no matter how much you or B2B or all you other nay sayers spout your thoughts it will not, I repeat, NOT, change in what I believe in.
I find these threads a joy to read but not once do I ever doubt my belief in God. I've experienced God in my life more than a few times and while many of you will just say it is a "coincidence" or explain it some other way I know what transpired and if you don't believe I can understand because I'm just as skeptical as the next person....except when it comes to my faith.
Carry on.
Opinion...
You do not have to believe. Others do. Nothing you have said even remotely scratches the surface of disproving God. There are many different belief systems in the world (Fact). So just because there were ones before Jesus does not make Jesus false, just as there are ones after Jesus.I don't have to act like anything. There isn't some magical code and Orphan Annie Ring Decoder. Its simple dates and times along with astrological bodies that have a direct relation with the life and times of Jesus Christ. Only they existed and correlated with dozens of gods before him. Even though
Exactly.
Obviously you're threatened by everything that has an actual basis vs. opinion based or you wouldn't be avoiding what MH and myself are willing to discuss. You flat refuse to open a debate on it by continually going back to a debate centered around sin or whatever else it was that no one gave a about.
Can you send me your business card, I know many people that you can help. You do not care about faith, yet you want to debate the fact that is the pagan calendar???
I have already acknowledged what you and heat have said. It just sucks and adds nothing to the mix. You act like because no one cares about what we all already know what you are going to say, that we are scared. News flash, this is not the first discussion on the topic and most everyone has heard what you are going to say.
(P.S., no one has stopped you from saying anything. In fact someone asked you then you told them to google it.)
I can put up another soap box if you need it.
Actually its what you guys say. Oh Easter, the date of death and ressurection along with birthdays and significant moments in biblical references completely mirror a calendar that existed years before the word Jesus was sung. Bahumbug its all a coincidence. I refuse to acknowledge the relation of previous gods even though there are scores that mirror our very own Jesus, they were all opinion too. Yeah I know its actually historically do ented well before Jesus existed but we'll call it opinion nontheless.
You're right it is pointless. The existence of a real calendar and actual facts based on historical records that predated Jesus by hundreds if not thousands of years has and never will be a basis for debate with those who believe. This is why I said in the very beginning that faith was illogical and will never change.
Anyways, no soy creyente.
Now thats funny
The pagan calendar is based on astrological bodies that were personified as being human like. Its roots are mathmatical and originated with time and its cycles. Its all about relation. The faith part is a by-product of a tool used to track the stars. The very tool that was used to create and control religion into the ages including today. The very basis was found in actual truth not questionable faith. The pagan calendar doesn't depict gods as in magical and possibly non-existent mythical creatures the calendar depicts a precise mathmatical calculation of astrology that is undeniable. Those undeniable times and dates are the basis of every significant date in Jesus's life. Its not opinion if its provable fact.
No one is "threatened" by any thing you have said because we have heard it before and it has been absorbed and dismissed. If someone was able to 100% prove that no God exists then I would not believe. I have seen enough to believe however, ME, NO ONE ELSE.
But I think of it as philosophy as well as my religion. Even IF you could prove there is no God, I would still try and live by the principles of the Bible and the teachings of Jesus. So what is your point again? The burden of proof is on you if you are the one trying to disprove this. You have not even come close. Maybe you should be a politician instead, you could pass a lot of regulation without having to prove how it helps.
yet we have not even found all the systems and galaxies. you act like science is an exact art. it is an evolving system that is constantly being built upon and re-worked. that is why there is such things as the SCIENTIFIC THEORY.
I guess I am scared of what other people say because I just try and ram beliefs down peoples throats without listening to what they say.
I'm not shaken in the least.
No but the bodies that are depicted in the calendar aren't theory. They're real right down to the mathematical precision used to calculate the rotation of the sun and earth as they're precieved through the ages using said calendar. What is in the calendar is exact without debate or question and can be mathematically calculated to check authenticity. The very dates depicted are identical to significant dates in Jesus's life. I'm debating those dates found in religion and the relation of Jesus Christ back to the relevance of the calendar and other similarities to all the previous dieties before Jesus. They are all nearly identical. Those are facts not opinion.
Its like you saying that our yearly calendar is theory because we haven't found all the galaxies. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. The calendar is based on what was known and found in its time. There is no denying it because its mathematically provable.
"True life coaches are trained and experienced to ask the right questions to seek and discover the inner truths about their clients without any preconceived influences."
You are fired.
I'm done. I'm not going to debate a mathematically provable calendar. This is ing stupid. You guys who wish to debate the accuracy of math are quite possibly the dumbest people alive. I get it ok 2 + 2 = 4 is just a theory.
Go yourself. You ability to rationally argue anything is profoundly void of intelligence. You have done nothing but argue the validity of actual math as opinion. If anyone should be fired its you and anyone else who wants to argue that math is an unprovable theory. What a ing moron you are. Good look with the rest of this thread.
No it is saying that religion and beliefs have been around for a long time and new ones are constantly being developed. So you saying there is coincidences means absolutely nothing, because to be quite honest it is not surprising. That in no way makes one thing wrong. 2+2 = 4 does not mean there is no God.
To be able to map stars and seasons is very cool but that makes sense how we can do it. No one can explain with great certainty how the stars and seasons came to be. Which is the point I am trying to make.
Who said math is a theory? Empty vessels often make the loudest noises, so keep on cussing and yelling.
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