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No one can stop the Lakers, they are almighty.
Seriously, that is bull . Lakers' defense still sucks. Early season showing of defense was just a tease. The Warriors have 58 points already.
How about you first show you can even get past the hornets?
i think we did that last year
if yall go through the hornets and played us after a grueling 7 game series i think we would of swept yall we were kicking yalls ass in la in 2 of the games before kobe stopped thinking of the white girls that were looking at him from the standswith shooters now if u didnt see the game on sunday agaist phoneix who will play the spurs in 2009 nba finals
No one can stop the Lakers, they are almighty.
Seriously, that is bull . Lakers' defense still sucks. Early season showing of defense was just a tease. The Warriors have 58 points already.
It's not like the Lakers wrote the book on cohesion and chemistry coughOdomcoughBynumcough.
Battier is the one true Kobe stoppa, which makes Houston a threat to beat them. If T-Mac is 100% healthy w/ Yao Artest and Battier, Houston will be tough to beat, but LA would still have the edge IMO.
They have accomplished both in the last 2 years, and Boozer could very well be in MIA by March.
Posey helps SA, Mason, Hill, the emergence of Bonner, and the fact Pop won't piss two games away by putting Bowen on Paul cancels out the edge Posey gives them.
IF healthy the Lakers have no challenge in the Western Conference. Their challenge comes from the Eastern conference. No disrespect to the other teams in the west but it is, what it is!
What we are seeing is history repeating itself back to the eighties. In the 80's it was Boston/East Rep. vs. LA. It was the showtime Lakers losing to the Celtics and being manhandled in the championship. It was the 85 Lakers redeeming themselves defeating the Celtics 4-2. That team blitzed the WC with a record of 11-2. I see this seasons lakers doing similiar, 12-2 or 12-3 in the WC Playoffs and beat the Celtics 4-2 in the finals.
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GMAB with that tired, weak, pathetic excuse that Gino was hurt. Injuries are part of the game. The Lakers had injuries to deal with themselves.
'Lakers guard Derek Fisher has sustained a partial tear of a tendon in his right foot, an injury that typically requires six to eight weeks of rest, but he will try to play through it.
"When the doctors told me recovery from a procedure could be 12 weeks, I just decided now was not the time to have surgery," Bryant said on the website kb24.com.
Bynum Out for 08-09 Season
Trevor Ariza made his return on Friday night, in the Lakers' 101-71 win over the San Antonio Spurs in Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals. He broke his foot on Jan. 20, and the healing process has taken longer then expected."
That's 4-1, just like the series final tally.
Out of respect for the Spurs for what they once were (elite) I give them a game against a healthy Lakers team in the playoffs, with that one game being very generous.
Threads like this at this stage of the season are dumb. If it was posted on a Lakers site, you would see a few hundred replies of "No one!". Posting it on a site of another team will just generate hostility.
What's more interesting is how the playoffs will be seeded. The biggest rival to the Lakers will be the Spurs, and right now, they won't meet until the WCF. If a team can pass both in the standings, then maybe LA and SA meet in the WCSF.
This could be an epic thread bump come January-February.
Laker Fan premature ejaculation forum.
1- the spurs are better than last year
2- maybe the lakers are better than last year, but i'm not convinced yet.
3- they haven't met this season.
please explain why the lakers will easily win
Last edited by sonic21; 12-29-2008 at 12:56 PM.
You are right!
But I want at least some objective analysis from both sides.
I'm a Spurs fan but it would stupid of me to post that the Lakers don't have a chance to win it all. Regardless of my hatred of that team!
The Lakers deserved that respect..they were the Western Conference Champions last season.
Also, I want the same respect for the Spurs and I have posted throughout this thread the factual reasons why. But to have Laker fans posted that the Spurs have no chance to compete with the Lakers for the Western Conference...they are not looking at it objectively.
And that just wrong!!
A rested TP9 is going to dominate Fisher/Farmar, LA unable to control tempo.
Bowen still the most physical perimeter defender in the NBA.
Tim Duncan was triple teamed at times last season, that will be much harder to do with energy guys like Hill and Mason Jr.
No one is even saying spurs win, but in reality, LA is not going to cakewalk to the Finals again. I doubt LA faces any squad as weak as last year's Denver, and the Jazz just aren't strong mentally despite beating you up physically.
Thank God its only December. Not even halfway thru the season yet.
Bynum has yet to prove he can stay fully healthy for a whole season as well.
From a personell standpoint, Ariza/Bynum are bigger upgrades than Mason/Hill and giving Bonner more burn.1- the spurs are better than last year
2- maybe the lakers are better than last year, but i'm not convinced yet.
3- they haven't met this season.
please explain why the lakers will easily won
Bynum isn't very good. Tim will dominate him 1on1. LA still doubling Tim? Then our current gameplan is still going to work.
Dude, you are BI-POLAR.
Yes he is moron
Bynum brings interior defense, rebounding, shot blocking and a guy who can score inside picking up the garbage points. Tim Duncan is going to have a TERRIBLE time having to go up against two and maybe three 7 footers...they are going to wear him down in the paint. Bynum makes teams adjust what shots they take in the paint..to say he isn't very good shows how little you know about basketball.
Lakers don't need to double team Tim Duncan he isn't good enough to go for 30 every night in the playoffs anymore. He will have big games but won't do it everytime....the spurs are going to need role players to play out of their minds just to take the lakers to 6 games.
You have your favorite team set incorrectly.
Actually Bynum's length should give Tim Duncan quite a few problems. He's one of the best post defending centers in the league thus far.
Phil Jackson has essentially figured out Pop's system. He knows how to beat it and he's done it 4 different times in the last decade. With the talent difference between LAL and SAS being what it is I just don't see how the Spurs could hang in a 7 game series.
If you couldn't beat LAL without Bynum or Ariza what the makes you think you can now? Bonner, Hill, Mason.....I'd rather have playoff Horry and Barry of a few years ago on my team. It's going to be the same old song and dance, Spurs need all of their Big 3 to score 20+ ppg otherwise they lose.
The_Game, Bynum isn't very good. That's not even demeaning, because he isn't bad or even not that great. He's an average center. He's not going to be the end all be all of a LA vs SA series. He's not a great man nor help defender. He's young and being easily rattled already. I do not think he won't contribute.
He just isn't going to do very much against us.
Your basketball knowledge consists of fearing other teams. Why do you even watch the spurs if all they cause for you is grief?
I like the Nuggets.
The Rockets I think will be there with the Lakers in the WCF when all is said and done. There is too much talent on that team for them to not make it IMHO.
I like the bigmac
Regular Season Tim and Playoff Tim are two different animals, first and foremost. Tim's not the KG type all intensity all the time. He turns it up another notch in the playoffs, its just a fact. Yet still, this year he looks about like 03 Tim, no joke. Tim is going to have a monstrous postseason and Bynum will not be able to handle him over a 7 game series (which is probably about how long this one will go).
The Phoenix Suns of 05 were much better than many offensively. We beat the out of em. All your offense is going to go dry in the postseason, just like against Boston. That Spurs D wasn't there in the 08 WCF, we were too tired. If we're healthy and rested, you're going to be facing a beast much like Boston on the defensive end this time around.Phil Jackson has essentially figured out Pop's system. He knows how to beat it and he's done it 4 different times in the last decade. With the talent difference between LAL and SAS being what it is I just don't see how the Spurs could hang in a 7 game series.
Horry, yes. Barry? Mason Jr fits Barry's role to the T, and he's much younger/athletic, with the ability to be a beast on the defensive end. Mason Jr and Finley are going to be causing trouble. And George Hill is just great stuff. Very excited and I'm thinking he may go for 20+ a few games in the playoffs when he's getting to the paint and finishing well. Additionally, he sells calls and gets to the foul line a lot. Perhaps most importantly, he's also very long and quick on the defensive end. He blocks point guards at the rim, and draws charges. He has a deceptively good jumpshot, even from three and the inbetween game. He, Mason, Bonner, and Finley are all going to be reasons those scoring droughts (ie the reason LA won last PO) don't happen anymore.If you couldn't beat LAL without Bynum or Ariza what the makes you think you can now? Bonner, Hill, Mason.....I'd rather have playoff Horry and Barry of a few years ago on my team. It's going to be the same old song and dance, Spurs need all of their Big 3 to score 20+ ppg otherwise they lose.
If Ian comes through, add him into the foyer, especially defensively. And don't forget KT, who despite his age still has a strong showing to bring to the table.
Last edited by z0sa; 12-29-2008 at 02:23 PM.
Newsflash.
The Spurs cannot beat the elite teams in the NBA right now.
Wake me up when they start doing that. Although I expect to hear the usual "Spurs don't try till March" response that most Spurs fans seem to give when they lose.
Replying to what you say in bold...I think it has to do with the Laker fan mentality that what we did last year carries over to this year, automatically. Reality says it's a new series and anything can happen. Up to the eventual winner to make and prove their case. That's reality.You are right!
But I want at least some objective analysis from both sides.
I'm a Spurs fan but it would stupid of me to post that the Lakers don't have a chance to win it all. Regardless of my hatred of that team!
The Lakers deserved that respect..they were the Western Conference Champions last season.
Also, I want the same respect for the Spurs and I have posted throughout this thread the factual reasons why. .
But to have Laker fans posted that the Spurs have no chance to compete with the Lakers for the Western Conference...they are not looking at it objectively
And that just wrong!!
Aside from Kobe, the 08-09 Lakers don't know jack about winning compared to the Spurs.
Pop and Phil are as neck and neck as you can be. Pop took a last season, but he was faced with a difficult decision. Michael Jordan played sick and feeling like dog , but he came through. Manu tried to drive on that ankle, and couldn't. Pop should have brought Brent Barry in, and didn't.
That's probably the biggest reason Barry's in Houston right now - he could have changed the momentum of that game as opposed to Manu being out there injured, but Pop refused to play him. Pop put his faith in Manu and Manu didn't come through for him. It's not really Manu fault. He did everything he could.
Last edited by z0sa; 12-29-2008 at 02:31 PM.
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