Saw there was a rumor he wanted out of Toronto. Could we steal this guy for Mahinmi or Bonner + a pinerider?
As injury-prone as he has been, my first question would be why?
Next, what has he done over the past couple of seasons that would make him attractive enough to sacrifice a young, athletic, 21-year old, PF/C?
Finally, if J-O can't work with Bosh, what makes you think he will work with Duncan?
Even a Troll should know how trades work:
Check his salary
anyone heard of the salary cap? The salaries are WAAAAAYYYY off.
Sigh, O'Neal makes 21.3 mil. Your package would have to equal at least 19.2 mil.
Bonner 3.9 mil
Ian 1 mil
You need to add 14.2 mil in salary. The rest of the pine not including Manu makes about 12 mil. total.
anyone heard of common sense?
He got hurt last night and he looked uninspired, alhtough he has had a good run in the last couple of games, the announcers were talking about him getting injured again.
i'm pretty i've heard that before.
I don't really like when people start bringing up how unimpressive O'Neal is. Please take a look at what the Spurs are working with right now, it's pretty bad.
And yes i would trade an injury prone, athletic, unproven Mahinmi for O'Neal.
EDIT: I realize this trade idea is completey unrealistic and financially impossible. I argue only for the principal of the thing.
You forgot to tell this person to go back to Spurs Report.
Same song- different verse.Saw there was a rumor he wanted out of Toronto
Even a Troll should know how trades work:
Check his salary
In terms of what marginal help Tim has right now, your point is well-taken about what the Spurs are rolling out there every night. However the fact remains that O'Neal is and has been unimpressive and uninspired. Whether you like it or not, it's the truth. Besides, his salary would prohibit such a scenario. So what's the point?
I was reprimanded for that and have decided to holster that one.
You people really really have short memories when it comes to "little help" next to Duncan.
Go back and look at what Robinson had next to him in the middle 90s...
I'd rather take an unproven with a possibility than a player who has proven to be pretty much useless over the years.
Did you ever watch him with the Pacers or now with the Raptors?
What in the world would ever make you want to take a chance on him?
And yes, I know it was hypothetical, but still.
Amen!
Love that avatar of Pop with the two thumbs up
you can't blame them, some of them weren't born yet.
You people really really have short memories when it comes to "little help" next to Duncan.
Go back and look at what Robinson had next to him in the middle 90s...
O'Neal puts up numbers acceptable for someone that makes probably 50-55% of what he does. For the money and production cross matrix, our current guys kick his ass. Need shooting? Put in Matt. Rebounds? Kurt. Hustle and passing? Fab. Individually, none of them stand out, but if you look at Kurt Oberto-Bonner, he's pretty impressive for like $9-10M. You get 14p/12r, close to 50% FG, great passing, hustle, and 3 point shooting. O'Neal is scoring 14p/7.3r, 46% FG, no hustle, no 3pt shooting, huge contract and always injured. He can only play about 30 minutes, so he's going to have to be part of a center rotation anyway. You're going to have to pay him $20M per season, AND someone else big man's money to spell him for ~ 20 minutes a night, plus injury time off.
I wouldn't trade Buford for O'Neal, much less someone worth anything to the team.
Well i figure we've probably got about 3 more seasons to possibly win another championship. Taking into account that timeframe....O'neal > what we have now at the C.
And no, i wouldnt trade any of the big three for him.I was merely comparing his talent/playmaking to what we have now.
I realize what Robinson had...that's why the Spurs didn't win until he got Duncan. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here.
You people really really have short memories when it comes to "little help" next to Duncan.
Go back and look at what Robinson had next to him in the middle 90s...
Duncan has tons of help...he's got 2 other all stars with him. You'll be hard pressed to find someone who doesnt think he has good help, but that doesn't mean you can't improve.
He's a free agent at the end of the season and I was thinking more along the lines of a sign and trade. Just a general question. For those with smartass responses, blow it out your ass.
Are you saying Buford isn't valuable to the Spurs?
nice try, but you should learn basic rules and regulations regarding trades first.
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