Well said.
Here's an interesting fact that I read on another board that I just realized was true.
It kind of relates to Pau's value on the team.
You will see Kobe on the court without Pau or Odom.
You will see Odom on the court without Kobe or Pau.
But you will never see Pau on the court without either Kobe or Odom (unless the game is pretty much won).
And in case some of you forgot, the Lakers were seeded #1 in January last year before the Pau Gasol trade.
What about Andrew Bynum?
Bynum's in the same boat as Pau, you'll never see him without Kobe or Odom.
Pau is under rated.
Hes as important to them as Tony and Manu are to the Spurs.
Kobe, like Duncan is still the main dog, but Pau is more like a 1a.
Gasol lead a team to 50 wins whos second best player was Lorenzen Wright.
Kobe couldnt make the playoffs with Odom as his second option.
Pau Gasol may be soft, but hes still a damn good player. Probly a top 15 player.
Right, I have to agree with this dude or girl on this comment although his other comments always make little sense. Firstly I shall thank him (or her) for exalting Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol is playing in LA which is home to those disgusting hollywood movies, but Pau himself is still venerable anyway. The only reason I respect him is that he is a spanish guy.
Lakers had never looked that good since their "big four" divorced in 04, until they stole Pau Gasol from memphis last season. Pop was absolutely pissed off when he was told about this trade, or steal. no, it was simply a robbery. Pau's shootings and moves are as good as other white PFs and centers, but he is a lot tougher than those white guys like Dirk. Kobe had been being doubled up everytime he handled the ball, now their opponents double Pau a lot more than Kobe. Pau has taken Kobe's crown and become the king of lakers team, but Kobe can't stand playing as the seacond role on his team (that's precisely why shaq was forced to leave, LA's fans prefered Kobe so that the leaving guy had to be shaq.) Lakers made a terrible decision in trading shaq and retaining that virago who has already proven that he can't do that without shaq. Kobe is even more sh!tty than most of the hollywood movies, at least hollywood has made some good movies like "monster's ball" and "swordfish". Kobe's 81pts just reflected how selfish he was, and he still is now. Kobe earns 21m/yr but his performances are not a bit better than a geek who works for the hollywood.
LA lakers are a great team and their rosters are all great too, except Kobe.
You probably already know this but, Kobe's been in the Playoffs every year with Odom except that 1st year...Odom tore his shoulder and had surgery that year.
Lakers ended up missing the Playoffs that year.
What's impressive is that Kobe took a scrub team with a Starting lineup of Kwame, Luke and Smush to the Playoffs and I think it was Game 6 against a very good Suns team. I can't even remember most of the bench, they were pretty bad like Devin Green, Brian Cook, etc.
Pau got swept 4-0 and he had Mike Miller, James Posey, Shane Battier, Jason Williams, Earl Watson. I'd say all of those guys are better than Luke, Kwame, Smush, Devin Green, Brian Cook, Laron Profit, etc.
Last edited by Allanon; 01-05-2009 at 05:14 AM.
^^^ Word.
Please, let's not let the facts get in the way.
That I know isn't true. The Suns were winning the division at the time.
Just because they turned into a contender after the Pau Gasol trade doesn't mean Pau is their best player, the argument saying otherwise makes no sense. The statement that Pau is more important than Kobe is laughable.
They turned into contender after the Gasol trade because Gasol >>> Bynum, Kobe is still the best player in the league.
Why do some of you like to post completely blatantly inaccurate information to support a weak argument? Lorenzen Wright wasn't even a top five player on that 50 win Grizzlies team. , he probably wasn't even a top 7 player on that team.
Gasol, Mike Miller, James Posey, Bonzi Wells, Jason Williams, Shane Battier, Earl Watson were all better and more valuable players to that team than Lorenzen Wright.
You sound like TPark.
Whats my weak argument? That Pau Gasol is a top 15 player?
The argument of this thread that Gasol is more valuable than Kobe.
Do you really believe Lorenzen Wright the second best player of that 50 win Memphis Grizzlies team?
1. LeBron
2. Wade
3. Howard
4. Dirk
5. Kobe
6. Roy
7. Duncan
8. Bosh
9. KG
10. Pierce
12. Joe Johnson
13. CP3
14. Deron Williams
15. Billups
(no particular order)
No he isn't.
When you put Dirk and Roy before Duncan you really are setting yourself up for disaster...
I said no particular order for a reason, if there was a particular order Duncan would be at the top of the list. Please read the post if you're gonna critique it.
This is without question one of the dumber things I've read on here.
Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gasol.
/thread
Lol.
It's an honor for me to have your approval.Right, I have to agree with this dude or girl on this comment although his other comments always make little sense. Firstly I shall thank him (or her) for exalting Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol is playing in LA which is home to those disgusting hollywood movies, but Pau himself is still venerable anyway. The only reason I respect him is that he is a spanish guy.
Lakers had never looked that good since their "big four" divorced in 04, until they stole Pau Gasol from memphis last season. Pop was absolutely pissed off when he was told about this trade, or steal. no, it was simply a robbery. Pau's shootings and moves are as good as other white PFs and centers, but he is a lot tougher than those white guys like Dirk. Kobe had been being doubled up everytime he handled the ball, now their opponents double Pau a lot more than Kobe. Pau has taken Kobe's crown and become the king of lakers team, but Kobe can't stand playing as the seacond role on his team (that's precisely why shaq was forced to leave, LA's fans prefered Kobe so that the leaving guy had to be shaq.) Lakers made a terrible decision in trading shaq and retaining that virago who has already proven that he can't do that without shaq. Kobe is even more sh!tty than most of the hollywood movies, at least hollywood has made some good movies like "monster's ball" and "swordfish". Kobe's 81pts just reflected how selfish he was, and he still is now. Kobe earns 21m/yr but his performances are not a bit better than a geek who works for the hollywood.
LA lakers are a great team and their rosters are all great too, except Kobe.
Gasol has been the best Laker so far this season.
I believe he's also the best passer amongst big men this season (of course, it has a lot to do with the triangle)
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