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so whats the point of havin ground troops if they are not investigating b4 launching a missile into a building? UN school couldve been avoided.
So in that case, you wouldn't mind me lauching 100 kat rockets at your house? I mean, that's laughable, right?
so whats the point of havin ground troops if they are not investigating b4 launching a missile into a building? UN school couldve been avoided.
your a brainwashed ing idiot. Get your straight, i won't bother looking it up but the guy ^^ already proved you wrong.
The U.N gave israel that land and they won't even listen to them.
Last edited by sook; 01-07-2009 at 04:54 AM.
you "Can't" launch them at a house you moron. You point them straight up and fire, thats what i mean by you can't target anything. If Hamaas gets lucky one might fall in the city and god forbid the shrapnel will injure/kill 1-2 people. That's why using F-16s is laughable, they are using largescale weapons to target a small place with a high population density. It won't matter if they target Hamaas, they will be killing civilians left and right. The place is in such poverty that they hospitals couldn't sustain the injured before this war, the state it must be in now you couldn't even imagine.
But hey, whats a couple of hundred dead palestenians anyways? Most never cared before so why should anyone expect them to care now?
i wonder why the surrounding arab countries arent doing crap to help palestine, they should do something to israel to put them into their place....instead of sitting and watching...
first of all, they can't. Israel got all its mil. tech from us, including atomic bombs. The last time they fought Israel they were too backward and lost. No arab country has an atomic bomb to even pose as a threat to Israel.
The UN is a joke, and everyone who doesn't support Israel is either ignorant, pathetic, or a radical Muslim.
You're right, give me some fine reasons to support israel. All you right wing extremists are pathetic. Your ideology is no different than the Islamic Radicals you hate, neither of you care for the loss of civilian lives. If Hamas were to blow up a UN-run school in Israel because it saw IDF members in there, what would public opinion be then?
Israel does it to 3 UN-run schools where people are taking refuge, and no independent sources can verify a justification.
So indiscriminately firing explosives into urban areas in an attempt to cause mass civilian causalities somehow gives you the moral high ground over targeted military strikes on military targets that Hamas chose to place in residential areas? That almost makes as much sense as the idea of "disproportionate response."
Of course, let's just wipe our minds of the little fact that Israel wouldn't be bombing Gaza if it weren't for the rockets they keep firing at Israeli cities and the weapons they keep smuggling in.
I do care about the actual innocent Palestinian civilians that have been killed or wounded. But many, if not most of the dead are Hamas; why should I shed any tears for them? After all, they wanted to be martyrs... they got their wish.
It's not an entirely Arab country, but Egypt has been involved...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...4fu2F0eNh8QIgAEgyptians open fire on Palestinians
Dec 28, 2008
Egyptian border guards have opened fire on Palestinians who breached the border to escape Israel's assault on Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
An Egyptian security official said there were at least five breaches along the nine-mile border and hundreds of Palestinian residents were pouring in.
At least 300 Egyptian border guards have been rushed to the area to reseal the border, the official added on condition on anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the press.
A resident of the Gaza Strip side of the border, Fida Kishta, said that Egyptian border guards opened fire to drive back the Palestinians.
Residents have also commandeered a bulldozer to open new breaches.
Palestinians reported several people were wounded by the gunfire.
Israeli aircraft earlier bombed the border area in an apparent attempt to destroy cross border tunnels used to smuggle weapons and contraband into the Gaza Strip.
Dr Abdel Qader Higazi, a representative of the Egyptian Doctor's Syndicate in Rafah said Egyptian authorities closed the border crossing after allowing several trucks of medical supplies into Gaza.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...4BR24Y20081228Egyptian guard killed by Hamas on Gaza border: TV
Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:03pm EST
RAFAH, Egypt (Reuters) - The security forces of the Palestinian Islamic movement Hamas shot dead an Egyptian border guard on Sunday in turmoil triggered by Israel's assault on Gaza, Egyptian state television said.
An Egyptian security source said Hamas forces had also shot an Egyptian policeman in the leg.
The incidents took place near the main border crossing between Egypt and Gaza, where Egyptian riot police fired in the air to try to drive back Palestinians who had managed to penetrate the border wall.
The events are likely to aggravate tense relations between Hamas and the Egyptian government, which says that Hamas is largely to blame for the Israeli onslaught. Israeli air strikes have killed around 300 people in Gaza in two days.
During the confusion of the assault, dozens of Palestinians crossed into Egypt from Gaza as Egyptian riot police fired in the air, witnesses said.
Reuters correspondent Yusri Mohamed said he had met several Palestinians on the Egyptian side of the border who told him they had slipped across at holes in the border wall.
It was not immediately clear how the holes appeared in the wall but the exodus began within an hour of Israeli air raids aimed at tunnels along the Egyptian border.
An Egyptian security official said later that the authorities had detained about 40 Palestinians who had entered Egypt without going through the usual formalities.
Bursts of gunfire were audible by telephone from Rafah as the Egyptian police tried to frighten the Palestinians off. Gaza hospitals said they were treating 10 people wounded by Egyptian police shooting at Rafah.
Egypt has been cooperating with Israel for months in the blockade of Gaza, severely restricting the flow of goods and people across the Rafah crossing, Gaza's only access point that is not under direct Israeli control.
Egypt reopened the main crossing point on Sunday to let out some of the Palestinians injured in the Israeli attacks.
In January, tens of thousands of Palestinians crossed the border into Egypt after Hamas blasted holes in the wall. It took the Egyptian authorities days to persuade them to leave.
(Reporting by Yusri Mohamed; Additional reporting by Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza; Writing by Jonathan Wright; Editing by Kevin Liffey)
Evidence for that?
Either/or, black/white, support/condemn, ignorant/educated.
It must be very comforting to have such a child-like, simplistic worldview. Although I can see the emotional appeal, ultimately such bianary thinking is worse than useless, it is counterproductive.
If you are incapable of understanding nuances or intermediate possibilities, please leave the foreign policy to the grown-ups who can. We can't afford your inability to grasp important concepts.
So sook, what is the solution to the problem?
Actually, it's offered for free.
I don't know but war isn't the solution.War only create more hate in both sides.The first step is to stop the attacks.
I agree with you 100%.
I don't get all the sympathy for Hamas and Hamas "enablers" on this board.
You don't hear anyone condemning Hamas for their indiscriminate rockets attacks. You don't hear anyone condemning people that raise their children to be suicide bombers. I don't get it.
And I love the logic about it not being a "fair" fight because Israel has modern weapons and Hamas only has "toy bottle rockets". WTF? It's like if I were to break into Ted Nugent's house with a 22 and people should feel sorry for me because Ted has automatic weapons. You break into my house with a stick and try to hurt my family and I'm unloading a Louisville Slugger or Big Bertha driver on your ass.
I have to hand it to you. You completely caught me. I'm a huge right wing nut who loves war. I mean, who doesn't like watching things go boom?? I think every Palestinian should be subject to routine biological warfare. I mean, I would prefer torture or just a nuke, but since that's apparently difficult to do, so I'll have to settle for the F-16. That sucks, but as long as there are dead people at the end of the day, I'll be watching with!
Thank you for being so observant as to realizing my fetish for burned flesh and human misery and then informing the forum here as such. It saved me a lot of time.
Wow, this future jihadist looks really happy.
I get you the solution.
Starve them financially.
Both sides.
It's incredible how humble one can become when you cut the money.
Of course that is absolutely impossible.
At least from one side.
They must have been pretty lucky to hit a school.
Why wasn't this reported?
Just thank God every single morning that Isaelis have not decided that the place where you live is their "holy land", whatever that means.
They must have been pretty lucky to hit a school.
Why wasn't this reported?
They were trying to hit the local day care, but missed. Evil bas s!
You know, ignorance is a terrible quality.
Who are you and why are you responding a question meant for sook?
When you say the attacks, you mean the rocket attacks by the Palestinians?
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