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Do you agree with whoever said he has a nice stroke, and that he just needs to calm down?
He did dunk on his very first game back. I mayber wrong but i think it's his first offensive possesion....
Do you agree with whoever said he has a nice stroke, and that he just needs to calm down?
His stroke isn't that nice. He's pretty inconsistent in his motion. Sometimes he'll shoot it quick and then sometimes he has a hitch in it.
Calming down would probably help but it's tough to say. You'd think he'd be calmed down by now. Maybe if the Spurs keep him and his contract becomes guaranteed he'll settle down and shoot it like he did in summer league and Austin.
It not guaranteed that he'll ever be able to shoot on the NBA level. There are plenty of players who can shoot in summer league and in the D-League but can't do it at the highest level.
I rather have Mason shoot every trey that Tolliver is taking, even if he ends up missing. Mason has a great release, and when he misses, it's normally not by much...
Agreed.
If we keep Tolliver he's going to have to play like Bruce Bowen and only launch it when wide open in his spots.
Strange game against the heat, but loved the way we elevated the D near the end and closed them out like we should.
How much time does he need to calm down? At this point it's looking more and more like SL was a fluke.
Yeah but then he screwed the equation and shot well in Austin. If he would have shot poorly with the Toros, it would be easy to give up on him by now.
Hey LJ, seeing as you are here, any interest in Roger Mason Jnr for a pick in DL II?
I love Ro Money, but he's no good to me in a rebuilding phase.
Agreed, along with the fact its too late in the season to insert a new big in the equation from the D League. More than likely said player would struggle with the defense and offense for a while.
This is a very logical arguement, but I can't help but remember that Toll was picked over Malik AND The Great Gist, that still ticks me off.
Hmmm ... let me see . . .Hey LJ, seeing as you are here, any interest in Roger Mason Jnr for a pick in DL II?
I love Ro Money, but he's no good to me in a rebuilding phase.
Pop seems to have really liked Tolliver since the start of training camp. That could help him with the deadline looming.This is a very logical arguement, but I can't help but remember that Toll was picked over Malik AND The Great Gist, that still ticks me off.
Tolliver's been so much better in all other areas than I thought he'd be that I could almost get past his shooting. I'm convinced that he has KT range and if he hit those midrange jumpers consistently he'd see lots of time.
It seem's to me that shooting two is almost taboo to him. He almost always want to shoot a three.
Last edited by Yorae; 01-07-2009 at 08:54 PM.
I'm sure it was drawn up in 1999 - they did it more then once or twice.
I need to check my old VHSes.
Thanks for the answer - I thought nobody understood it.
Tolliver is doing a good job of making shots at the rim, which was a question mark heading into the season due to his lack of height.
But outside of that, I guess he should stick to shooting threes from straightaway
First against Memphis
You never finished that thought - yes or no? I thought you might be able to use him, but if you don't want him I'll shop him around.
I haven't seen the Spurs do it in a long time, other than when a couple of players hand it off to each other (confusion or whatever) so that the designated "Big", the "4" in Pop's world, can inbound after a basket by the opponent.
Since it is allowed after a made basket, there isn't much time to call the play (unless a timeout is called after the 1st of 2 Free Throws or something like that). That is one of two reasons why I think the option to pass the ball to a teammate behind the line isn't used very often. It's also a bit limiting if the ball is passed more than a few feet behind the line or near the corner end-line. That's because the angle of the inbounds pass now becomes limited to only one side of the defender and you certainly want to avoid a sideline trap. There are more passing angle options from the mid-point of the baseline.
For those that didn't know about the rule that allows it, here it is:
http://www.nba.com/media/2008-09-NBARuleBook.pdf
Rule 8, Section III-c. After a score, field goal or free throw, the latter coming as the result of a personal foul, any player of the team not credited with the score shall put the ball into play from any point out-of-bounds at the endline of the court where the point(s) were scored. He may pass the ball to a teammate behind the endline; however, the five-second throw-in rule applies.
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