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    i support single moms tonylongoriafan's Avatar
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    I know. Who'da thought there'd be hills in the Hill Country?

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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    San Marcos is in the Hill Country?

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    it's funny how tx state people think they can go to the fbs and compete. Utsa won the commisioner cup last year without football. Tx state has had the worst mens basketball for the past 5 years. Our baseball is a push. Both good. Our track has dominated for the past couple of years. Their football team has had 2 good years I'm the past 10 of you can call this year good. That qb transfer from u of is the only reason they made a run bout 4 years ago. I just think overall utsa athletics are more compe ive. Our basketball teams are 4-0 I believe against conference USA
    The Commish Cup could be seen as a barometer for your athletic program. Too be fair, we don't get points for Men's tennis. These two sports are equal in the eyes of the Commish cup.

    Funny how you base things on the commish cup-

    Since 2000-
    2000: SWT wins
    2001: can't find stats online
    2002: SWT wins
    2003: 2nd
    2004: TXST wins
    2005: 2nd
    2006: 3rd
    2007: 4th
    2008: 3rd (4 points behind UTSA)
    2009: Currently in first (through 5 sports)


    Men's all sports cup-
    2003: 2nd place
    2004: 2nd place
    2005: 7th
    2006: 8th
    2007: 8th
    2008: can't find online
    2009: 2nd (through football, cross country)

    Women's cup -
    2003: 1st
    2004: 1st
    2005: 1st
    2006: 1st
    2007: 1st
    2008: 1st
    2009: 1st (through soccer, volleyball, cross country)


    For those of you who do not follow SLC or understand how the commish cup works-
    There are 12 teams in the conference. The Conference champ gets 12 points, second place gets 11 all the way down the line. If your school does not compete in a specific sport then you get no points, but there are still 12 possible points (UTSA for football, TXST for Men's tennis).

    In 2008, UTSA finished with 11 points in Men's tennis (TXST = 0), TXST had 3 points for football (UTSA = 0)

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    ^Tennis smack ftw!!!

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    In 2008, UTSA finished with 11 points in Men's tennis (TXST = 0), TXST had 3 points for football (UTSA = 0)
    The UTSA men beat SWT by 21 points to win the Men's le.

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    She doesn't comprehend and understand that UTSA whips Texas state in just about everything. From Alumni all the way down to the school itself. Face it chick, UTSA will always be better than ty ass Texas State. Lol.

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    She doesn't comprehend and understand that UTSA whips Texas state in just about everything. From Alumni all the way down to the school itself. Face it chick, UTSA will always be better than ty ass Texas State. Lol.
    It's 4:08PM and UTSA still sucks.

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    She doesn't comprehend and understand that UTSA whips Texas state in just about everything. From Alumni all the way down to the school itself. Face it chick, UTSA will always be better than ty ass Texas State. Lol.
    Yup, I guess that's right.

    You whip Texas State in accepting students -- 93% Acceptance Rate
    Texas State? - 53%

    According to US News and World both schools are Masters Universities.Texas State is Tier 1 while UTSA is tier 3. -- 3 is more than 1 so that must make UTSA better. Right?

    Retention rates?
    Texas State - 74% of FT Students / 63% of PT Students
    UTSA - 59% / 46
    It looks like students prefer rolling hills to the Concrete Campus

    Graduation Rates?
    Texas State- 22% graduate in 4 years, 47% in 5, and 55% in 6 years.
    UTSA - 7% graduate in 4 years, 22% in 5, and 30 % in 6 years.
    Yikes... Did you say something about ALUMNI?

    National Accreditation?
    TxSt - 8
    UTSA - 3

    (UT has 10, A&M has 6)

    Crime on Campus?
    Liquor law violations on campus- 361 to 278 (winner UTSA)
    Liquor in the Dorms - 311 to 78 (winner UTSA)
    Robbery - 2 to 0 (winner UTSA)
    Motor Vehicle Theft - 24 to 1 (UTSA)

    All of this information came from -
    Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, US News and World Report, and the National Center for Educational Statistics.


    PS- I'm a dude, not a chick.

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    great post, but to be fair you guys in San Marcos have had what...an 80 year head start?

    Is it also fair to state that Tx St has become stagnate over the last decade, where UTSA has been growing by leaps and bounds (and I dont just mean student population).

    I got into all of the schoolsI applied to (tx state and UT austin included) and chose UTSA. I think it still depends on what your looking for.

    That being said go roadrunners, here's to beatung tx state whenever we are head to head and here's to becoming a teir 3 national university and leaving the 'masters' designation behind!

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    I'd like to know exactly how Texas State has become stagnant over the past decade.

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    TEXAS STATE PUSSY CATS blow! UTSA RULES OVER TX STATE for ever. Get over it. See you s when we play y'all sorry asses.

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    Believe. chrisattsu's Avatar
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    great post, but to be fair you guys in San Marcos have had what...an 80 year head start?

    Is it also fair to state that Tx St has become stagnate over the last decade, where UTSA has been growing by leaps and bounds (and I dont just mean student population).

    I got into all of the schoolsI applied to (tx state and UT austin included) and chose UTSA. I think it still depends on what your looking for.

    That being said go roadrunners, here's to beatung tx state whenever we are head to head and here's to becoming a teir 3 national university and leaving the 'masters' designation behind!
    Peligro,

    1. We may have an 80 year head start as an ins ution, but our mission statement was completely different prior to the 1960s. We were primarily a teachers college, not the comprehensive University we are today.

    2. Stagnation, In what sense?

    You mention student population, we are the 5th largest university in the state behind UT, A&M, UNT, and U of Houston at just over 29,000 students. Last year Texas State was the 3rd most popular choice for incoming freshmen (by total number of applications received). Unlike UTSA, we are experiencing controlled growth. As it currently stands, the community infrastructure of San Marcos cannot support more than roughly 33,000 students. City officials are working on ways to improve this, but for now we are controlling our growth by tightening our enrollment standards, and moving classes away from San Marcos to Round Rock, Austin, and San Antonio. On one hand it keeps us from becoming a larger ins ution, but it also allows us to be more selective on the students we accept.

    Academically our standards are higher than ever before. We continue add new graduate and PhD programs every year; Several of our programs (geography, history, creative writing, nursing, forensic anthropology, and nanotechnology... the ones I can quickly think of off hand) have received accolades from their respective fields in the past decade.

    Athletically? I stated this earlier. 3 Commish Cups in 8 years. While our Men's programs struggle, we have won the All Women's Cup 9 of the last 10 times. Since I arrived here in 2004, I have seen us win numerous conference championships; athletic facility improvements undertaken (soccer complex, baseball / softball stadium, video boards for basketball / volleyball, baseball, softball, and football stadium improvements); and a push to move out of the Southland Conference

    Physical Growth? Anyone who went to Southwest will tell you that this is not their school, and they are right. We are 5 years into our current master plan which has added several new buildings; campus improvements including Concho Green, sculptures, fountains, and increased signage; and we have created a new campus in Round Rock.

    Stagnation is far from the word I would use to describe Texas State.

    3. If you don't mind me asking, why made you decide to go to UTSA? (general curiosity, no malicious intent)
    Last edited by chrisattsu; 01-07-2009 at 01:36 PM.

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    Why is everyone bashing each others university? LOL

    I say go wherever ya friggen want to go.............who cares? I was talking about a sporting rivalry, not an academic battle. I graduated 15yrs ago.........and believe me Utsa isnt remotely the same as when I was there.

    Both are good schools..........Utsa and TXst. Cant we all just get along?



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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    3. If you don't mind me asking, why made you decide to go to UTSA? (general curiosity, no malicious intent)

    I can tell you why I did..............I actually could have gone to UT. I was in the top tier of my class. But, I chose Utsa because I had a great job at the time......that Im actually in as a career now. I was in design/architecture, and San Antonio has great architecture in and around the city. At the time the classes were smaller at Utsa compared to UT (still are) and the junior/senior year architecture and design studios were held at the downtown campus. The department regularly took walking field trips to the historic hotels and buildings downtown and these field trips coincided with our design projects. So, in a nuts , the school of design and architecture suited me more at Utsa.

    *shrugs*

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    Why is everyone bashing each others university? LOL

    I say go wherever ya friggen want to go.............who cares? I was talking about a sporting rivalry, not an academic battle. I graduated 15yrs ago.........and believe me Utsa isnt remotely the same as when I was there.

    Both are good schools..........Utsa and TXst. Cant we all just get along?

    Although everything I have stated appears to be to the contrary, I agree that both are good schools. According to the THECB, UTSA has more and produces more PhDs than Texas State. That is one area that we are quickly trying to improve upon.
    Also, as part of the UT System you are eligible for PUF funding to help with campus improvements, and your System status helps in obtaining research dollars. You are also far enough from Austin that you can develop programs that we may not be able to due to our proximity to UT.

    If I understand this correctly, conference originally started out as academic conferences for like minded ins utions. Intercollegiate athletics just grew out of this. If that is the case UTSA and UTA are not the problem, it is SFA and the Louisiana schools.

    We talk about this all the time on the Bobcat messageboard. If/When we move to an FBS conference, I would not mind seeing UTSA or UTA in that same conference.
    Last edited by chrisattsu; 01-07-2009 at 01:43 PM.

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    Austin Community College >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTSA

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    Austin Community College >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTSA
    Naw, I used to be an instructor at ACC and any school that would let a slob like me teach for college credit isn't on par with a UTSA.

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    Austin Community College >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTSA

    Ive seen just about all of your posts.............do you ever say anything positive? Or is it your mission to be a cawk all the time? You certainly are good at it.

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    Ive seen just about all of your posts.............do you ever say anything positive? Or is it your mission to be a cawk all the time? You certainly are good at it.
    Stop creating posts about your ty school and their ty football team and I'll say something nice. I promise.

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    Stop creating posts about your ty school and their ty football team and I'll say something nice. I promise.

    STFU............... there I said something not nice.

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    Kermit is a dumb . Look all you TX state leaches that want to play statistics about this and that. UTSA is the fastest growing school in the state of Texas. You guys will not move to an FBS conference. You guys will not have the same kind of money we will. In part because you guys are apart of the Texas state system. We have added 600,000 square feet to our already ginormous campus and even more is coming. We have a ing lazy river at our rec center on campus. We have the national security cyber center at our campus and plenty of robotics as well. Face it we our the next elite campus in the State of Texas. You guys will remain in the shadows. We will jump to a better conference. Just like our motto says. Come here. Go far. You guys keep hoping and praying something happens with your campus. It's not going to happen. There is no money there in that small town. We have more businesses here and a larger tax base in which to accrue more money for our campus. Stop being blind and hurt just because ty Texas State is getting left behind in the dust as we move on. Bunch of ing whiners.

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    Crime on Campus?
    Liquor law violations on campus- 361 to 278 (winner UTSA)
    Liquor in the Dorms - 311 to 78 (winner UTSA)
    Robbery - 2 to 0 (winner UTSA)
    Motor Vehicle Theft - 24 to 1 (UTSA)
    UTSA 4 SWT 0

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    Kermit is a dumb . Look all you TX state leaches that want to play statistics about this and that. UTSA is the fastest growing school in the state of Texas. You guys will not move to an FBS conference. You guys will not have the same kind of money we will. In part because you guys are apart of the Texas state system. We have added 600,000 square feet to our already ginormous campus and even more is coming. We have a ing lazy river at our rec center on campus. We have the national security cyber center at our campus and plenty of robotics as well. Face it we our the next elite campus in the State of Texas. You guys will remain in the shadows. We will jump to a better conference. Just like our motto says. Come here. Go far. You guys keep hoping and praying something happens with your campus. It's not going to happen. There is no money there in that small town. We have more businesses here and a larger tax base in which to accrue more money for our campus. Stop being blind and hurt just because ty Texas State is getting left behind in the dust as we move on. Bunch of ing whiners.

    I went to and graduated from UT. My school s all over your school. My school is the reason UTSA exists and is able to have a ty football program. There is no compe ion. Now stop with the ry.

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    I went to and graduated from UT. My school s all over your school. My school is the reason UTSA exists and is able to have a ty football program. There is no compe ion. Now stop with the ry.
    LMAO...........I have people that WORK for me that graduated from UT. hahahaha........whatever.

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    Ok kids go to your rooms. No dinner for you tonight.

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