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And Pop can't win without Tim. You need great players to win les.
Phil cannot win without Jordan or Shaq.
And Pop can't win without Tim. You need great players to win les.
Right but Pop was with the team before he started coaching it. He helped build the team that he has.
You're missing the whole point, great coaches still need great players, regardless of whether the player or the coach was there first.
It's not like Popovich took Tim Duncan with a 2nd round pick and developed him into a great player. Shaq, Duncan and MJ would have been Hall of Famers regardless of the coach, and coaches need players of that caliber to succeed.
I guess Red Auerbach is a bad coach because he can't win a le w/o Bill Russell and Cousy or Russell and Havlicek.
Because Pop would have won without Duncan?
You do understand that this a long season right?
Derek can't play these long minutes on a consistent basis during this period of time in his career.
Damn
Can you stop typing in bold letters ?
What would you suggest Phil does given the fact he has no other PG he can trust at running the offense?
Coaches can't fill holes on teams, they need to find ways around them. IMO Phil is doing the best he can, the Laker's bench isn't as deep as people say, especially with Odom injured. Even if Phil is under performing, there are no better options out there.
Is Larry Brown the best coach ever since he won an NBA le without one single Hall of Fame player on his team while beating a HOF head coach that had four Hall of Fame players on his team?
Phil isn't a HOF coach since he needed Shaq or MJ to win. A HOF coach should be able to win with this starting lineup:
Marco Jaric
Ricky Davis
Antoine Walker
Robin Lopez
Michael Olowakandi
If you need great players to win then you suck.
Back on topic. We are missing a point guard, going through the injuries every team has this year, and each team will every year. It was fine to put Sun Yue in, give him some minutes, see what he can do. Yeah, we surrendered the lead, but it wasn't all Sun's fault. So what if we lose a game or two because he plays Sun Yue while trying to save Fisher's legs. Better to find out now what he can do than in April if we lose a couple of more guys.
We will be seeing more of Sun Yue in the near future. If he does really well, his criticism will disappear. If he doesn't, bench him. Note the similarity of this to what the Spurs went through. Parker and Ginobili are out, so Mason and Hill get minutes and do well. Tolliver gets a chance and can't cut it, he was just waived.
Lakers 55, do you think it would be smart for LA to try and trade for Lindsay Hunter? I can't imagine Chicago has any reason why they want to hold onto him, a future 2nd rounder and a bench player would probably work. This way Hunter and Fisher could keep each other fresh for the playoffs and they're 2 players Kobe and Phil trust. JMHO
I would love to have Lindsay Hunter back in LA. I'm not quite sure what he has left in the tank but he knows the triangle, phil and Kobe.
He also plays great D and is a veteran presence, I am still pissed as that the Suns didn't sign him after the season started and before the Bulls signed him. They had no reason why they shouldn't pay the veterans minimum for someone who can dump it into Shaq, play D, move w/o the ball and not try to play beyond his ability. Now they might sign Shaun Livingston.
I think if we were going to make a trade, we would have by now. there was talk of Chris Mihm to Milwaukee for Tyrone Lue, or getting Pargo from Russia somehow. I hadn't thought about trying to get Hunter, so, I can't say if it's a good idea or not. I think the Lakers want to keep chemistry as it is, however I am sure they, as well as I, are open to any upgrade. When Farmar comes back at 100%, he can always get more minutes and rest Fisher more, plus of Sun works out, he can get a few as well. THen Fisher can be fresh for the playoffs.
My gut instinct is we won't make a trade, we like what we have. Sure, we have ups and downs, but so does everyone. Now,the tradng deadline isn't here yet, and no one has made a big move yet. If one occurs, look for most of the western cmpe ors to do similar, just as happened last season.
Sure they have. Iverson 4 Billups is borderline blockbuster and Bell + Diaw 4 Richardson is somewhat big.
The Lakers do have a team capable of going the distance and I can see why they won't make a single trade, it's just my opinion they don't have enough leadership, intelligence, and grit outside of Kobe and have too many players that need leadership, especially on defense.
Outside of Gasol, it seems like they all have a bad habit of getting complacent and standing around when they don't have the ball if Kobe is having one of those nights. That's why the "when Kobe takes 20+ shots" stat says absolutely nothing about Kobe, it says that the other players quit trying to get open if Kobe is playing well.
Umm what do you Phil to do? play Fish 45 mins a night till Farmar, Luke and Lamar are back? He is going with the players he on the bench and winning most of the games
No great coach had "only" ty players on winning teams.
It's one thing to say Phil Jackson couldn't have coached NBA championship teams without Jordan and Shaq and Kobe. It's quite a different thing to say he's a "bad coach."
Could he have won without Jordan and Shaq and Kobe? No.
Is he a bad coach? No.
Don't worry that happens to me to when I talk about the Spurs 3 les.
none of those players won as first options without phil either.
two way street
ridiculous statement. most coaches either had a duncan.bird,magic,olajuwon.bill russell etc to win.
you cant win a le without a superstar. well you can but you need at least 4 all stars and a dpoy( larry brown pistons)
You can be the greatest coach ever you are not winning if you don't have the horses.
Riley won with Kareem,Magic,Worthy,Scott,Wade,Shaq.
Pop had Duncan,DROB,Manu,Parker
Phil had Kobe,Shaq,MJ,Pippen and talented role players in Chicago.
I think he was being sarcastic.
Dude, that was a joke, I was being sarcastic because it is ridiculous to criticize Phil Jackson for not winning a le w/o Shaq or Jordan.
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