I Like Tolliver But Needs More Work, But That Girly Name Dude Has Some Good Stats On The D League. Any Vid On This Guy? I Tried Youtube N Only Sims Game Bull Came Up!!!!!!
There are a couple of Iowa games in the archive here:
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/webc...hive_0708.html
I wasn't super impressed with Sims today. He had good stats but it just seemed he was capitalizing on his height advantage more than anything. I was expecting more energy, but he still seems worth a look to see if he can do anything in the NBA. I was more impressed by his teammate Cartier Martin -- he reminded me of a stretched out Kelenna Azubuike.
I would even take Rasho at this point. A smart veteran who knows our personnel and our system. He would be just what we need. Udoka + JV + 2nd rounder for Rasho and bring up Hairston from Austin.
salarys don't match...
i don't think people know that udoka and vaughn only make $2 million combined. that is not enough money to get anyone except another scrub or an underpaid rookie. even with bonner's $3 million contract, all three only make a whopping $5 million. average centers price in the $6-8 million range and good centers go over $10 million.
Tolliver is not a poor shooter. I attended the Dec. 27th game and watched him warm up, he was stroking it pure. He is also a good shooter in the D-league, in 2007-08 he shot 51% (36% from 3pt), and in his Toros games this year he was in the high 40%s in 3pt shooting and over 50% overall.
For some reason he has not shot well with the Spurs. He just needs time and minutes and he'll get there.
not necessarily..
some guys are great shooters in practice, summer league, D-league,...but can't shoot in the NBA..Tolliver is one of them..
Darius Miles!
/dreaming
Yep, sign him for a series of 10 day contracts, and then use him to blackmail Portland (with the threat of playing him enough game sto put him back on their salary cap - he's off it for a medical retirement) for to get one of their glut of SF's (outlaw, Fernandez, Batum, webster...)
/stop dreaming
The problem with Tolliver is he is too slight to bang with the big fours and not a reliable enough jump shooter to play the three. He is also not up to the Spurs' defensive standards. I like his energy and hustle, but it would serve him to bulk up a little and shoot a consistent 3 pointer.
He reminds me of a less beefy Malik Rose.
we're half way there now!
Coach Nurse has a pretty succinct scouting report in this article.
Sizzling Sims Has Iowa Energized
Courtney Sims of the Iowa Energy posted a pair of double-doubles at the D-League Showcase.
By Mark Bodenrader, D-League.com
Orem, Utah, January 7, 2009 - Iowa’s Courtney Sims has been racking up the accolades this season. He posted the first triple-double of the 2008-09 NBA D-League season back on November 28 against Sioux Falls with 22 points, 17 rebounds and 11 blocks. He was named NBA D-League Player of the Month for December after averaging 24.3 points and 13.0 rebounds, shooting 62 percent from the floor and leading Iowa to a 6-1 record. He’s currently tied for the league lead in double-doubles with 10.
And that’s just skimming the surface of what the 6-10 center out of Michigan has accomplished in such a brief span of basketball time (12 games).
After two more strong performances at the 2009 D-League Showcase, Sims now owns overall averages of 22.8 points, 12.7 boards and 2.7 blocks per game (all team-bests), which are up from 15.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg and 0.8 bpg last season.
What’s the reason for his drastic improvement? Sims claims it’s the result of a lot of hard work, but it seems his modest personality prevents him from going into more detail. Instead, he’s quick to deflect attention away from himself and put the focus on his teammates.
“I just play hard every minute,” said Sims. “I’m patient. I let the game come to me. I have great teammates that help me out with my scoring and everything I do.”
Winning does do a lot for the spirits of players, and the Energy are an impressive 10-3 on the season, which currently leads the Central Division. But you could easily point to Sims' dominance in the early part of the season as the main cause of the Energy's success.
Iowa head coach Nick Nurse sees a couple reasons why Sims has made such a leap this season.
“He’s just come back a lot more athletic,” said Nurse. “He’s quicker to the ball. He’s quicker to blocking shots. He’s quicker to defensive rebounds. That’s the first thing. And the second thing is his skills have improved. From being a kind of a dribble up once and shoot a right-handed jumper to shooting turnarounds, hitting face-up and even taking it off the dribble a little bit. He’s really improved his overall conditioning and his skill work.”
At the level he’s currently playing, Sims no doubt has to be on the shortlist of players who could get that next call-up to the NBA, which is saying something in a league filled with talent. Nurse agrees, but notes there are still aspects of his game he can work on to better his chances.
“I just think he needs to keep improving his conditioning,” said Nurse. “Their concern (at the next level) is can he score at that level and get a bucket or two here or there. And the biggest thing is can he defend at that level. He’s got to be able to move his feet and play the screen-and-rolls. He’s got to be big and tough enough down there to not get planted in the lane.”
However, it’s getting tougher for Sims to improve on the stat sheet. Nurse says that Sims has been so effective that opposing teams are now concentrating on stopping him, which could cause his numbers to dip a bit. But it still doesn’t diminish the impact he’s having in the D-League and could have at the next level.
“He’s a good quality big,” said Nurse. “He’s very smart. Defensively, he knows where he’s supposed to be at. I think he could probably help somebody.”
That somebody could be Houston. Just prior the Showcase, Sims traveled there for a demanding workout for the Rockets with a former D-League standout.
“It was me and Pops Mensah-Bonsu,” said Sims. “It was hard. It was an hour and 15 minutes. We went hard at each other. I think I impressed them a little bit.”
Sims has impressed those that have witnessed his talents all season. Hopefully, he’ll get a chance to turn the heads of NBA fans sometime soon.
“I just have to keep playing, doing what I’m doing,” said Sims. “My team is winning. My teammates are playing well. I’m getting accolades because of my teammates and our success as a team. If I continue to do that, everything will work out.”
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/sims...se_090107.html
Interesting...He’s a good quality big,” said Nurse. “He’s very smart. Defensively, he knows where he’s supposed to be at. I think he could probably help somebody.”
i hope pop takes a look at that guy.
Houston only has 14 under contract, so I wonder why they wouldn't pull the trigger on a 10 day? Also, the article doesn't suggest other team reps were there, but it's possible.
The thing that is most enticing about Sims is that he's made and sustained a sharp improvement over past performance. In other words, even if he is not quite yet NBA-ready, he could get there with one more summer of improvement. This is the time to buy low.
If we want someone to help this season, we're probably going to end up signing Croshere.
Sadly, true. Well, not too sadly, actually. I'd rather win a championship than sign a prospect, but this might not have to be an either/or. Not that Croshere puts the Spurs over the top.
Would love to see the Spurs give him a 10-day contract look. If they're interested, they'd better hurry.
When you think at a possible FA, you had two wonder two basic questions :
- Can this player help Spurs this year ?
- Has this player a good chance to better than players Spurs can get this summer (via Draft, FA or with players still in the pipeline) ?
If the answer is no at both questions, this player isn't a good option to consider.
To me, the answer to both question is no with Sims.
Awesome...more soft bigs that do nothing but shoot. I'll pass.
So the Spurs should not have signed Hairston?
Good questions, but there are other considerations. Besides, the answer to your second question, at least for me, is maybe. That's why a 10 day is a no harm, no foul.
Sims looked pretty soft against Dakota. The advantage of Croshere is knowing he can perform on an NBA level.
Sims is 25 years old. Hairston is 21 years old.
Spurs also still have 2 athletic bigs in the pipeline with Mahinmi and Gist. Maybe even more if Splitter and/or Javtokas decides to come in NBA.
Spurs have nothign in the pipeline at the SF spot.
And I don't know if you have watch Sims but he looks significantly worse than his stats.
I've only watched two games on archive, so I'm basing this on his stats. I'll give you that much. And I'm very willing to believe that is the Spurs gave him one 10 day contract, he might not deserve a second. I'm simply advocating a look.
Sims is producing better than Ian, so why bother with Ian?
Croshere is like Horry, nothing left and he never had much to begin with.
How about Miles for SF? Lets take a look with couple of 10 day contracts.
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