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its too bad tolliver couldnt hit the broad side of a barn.
i liked the other phases of his game a lot.
Very well said. I agree 100%. Brent Barry and Michael Finley both struggled when they got to San Antonio. It takes time and the Spurs afforded those 2 players that chance because of the investment they made in them.
He ALWAYS played hard and tried to do his best. That will lead to success in whatever career he has. He wasn't a bad team mate, he never pouted about his lack of floor time, he never did anything to deserve the rude comments.
its too bad tolliver couldnt hit the broad side of a barn.
i liked the other phases of his game a lot.
Playbaby post.
It could just be a case of him getting comfortable of shooting at the NBA level against better defenders. He shot well in the Summer and in the D League.
In fact, he might be closer than a lot of other D League players to making it to a team. He has a good BBIQ and seems to be an excellent passer for a big man. All that's missing is his shot.
If he can work on his 3 point shot and a mid-range game, I don't know why some team wouldn't put him on their roster.
Tolliver couldve been the Horry replacement. Just couldnt shoot the ball.
Aside from Tolliver's 3pt shooting, I actually liked the kid. He had good character, worked well with his teammates, and showed hustle on the boards. What is lacking in Tolliver isn't his potential, but his experience. He just needs more playing time where he can develop his game and hone his skills. But for people to say he doesn't belong in the NBA, is just ludicrous. He has done enough to just get in the league, and play for as many games as he did. I really hope someone picks him up because I see him being a solid role player and contributor for some team in the future. GL to you AT!!!
Goodbye black Danny Ferry.
Some of you guys are down right cruel. Alright, the guy couldn't find his shot at this level. It's not like the guy is trash. There were other areas of his game that would make one think that he does have a future in the NBA. Development takes time and it's clear he's not quite ready, yet. However, he will be back in the NBA - either with the Spurs or with some other team. Frankly, I hope to see him back with the Spurs next year. I wish him good luck.
If I remember correctly, he was a lot like Udonis Haslem in that he lost a lot of weight and basically reinvented himself as a player.
He is a good guy with a lot of potential. He already does a lot of things that coaches have to beg some of their premadonna players to do night in and night out. He is smart...so I expect he will either find his shot or develop a new way to contribute offensively. I fully expect to see him at the end of an NBA bench in the next couple of season. Perhaps we will be so fortunate to have it be ours.
I never dis-liked the guy. He showed us he plays with alot of heart. But his heart is just not enough... I wish he would try to be something else then just a 3pt line camper.
Maybe he would even surprise himself that he can do other things even better then trying to be a 3pt specialist.
I just don't get this whole trend of ero big men type style play... 3 pt shooting should be left to the shooting guard and shooting forwards... hence the name right? Don't get me wrong now, I see anything wrong with a big man going out and taking that 3pt shot every once in awhile if they are capable just to have a different weapon in the arsenal to loosen up the defense. But all these big men that are becoming one dimensional (run down on offense and camp out past the 3pt line) is just plain lame. It's like asking a 6ft guard to go down on the box and trying to post up every time he goes on offence... MY GOD MAN! USE THAT WONDERFUL SIZE THAT GOD GAVE YOU!!!
Awhem...if only I was blessed with such a body but I was chosen to be stuck in a 5"10 frame lol
Last edited by Chomag; 01-08-2009 at 03:09 PM.
To my understanding, Tolliver WAS a post-up guy when he was in college at Creighton University. At 6'8", he was not going to routinely punish anyone down low, at the NBA level. Talent level is bigger, stronger and faster. As such, he started to developing a perimeter shot. In fact, it was his outside stroke that initally caught the eye of the Spurs brass. After all, having another big to spread the floor works perfectly with the Spurs primary offensive objective of creating space for Duncan to maneuver and driving lanes for Parker. Much like Bonner does now.
My point is that it wasn't a bad decision for Tolliver to develop this outside shooting skill. In fact, it could only work to his advantage. It's just that he hasn't perfected it enough yet to warrant a permanent roster spot. When he couples his outside shooting with a good sound post game, it'll only make him a better, all-around player.
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