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what about the 'moving screens'?
I'll never forget the two phantom calls that completely ed the Spurs. The "moving screen" and "shooting foul" that gave Lewis three shots and the Magic the lead. Those were probably some of the worst calls ever called against the Spurs in a big game within recent memory. Flat out terrible calls...and to think we were the home team? I hate NBA officiating. What sucks is this happens to every team on a nightly basis. Every ing team in the league gets ed up the ass by the officials yet nothing ever changes.
what about the 'moving screens'?
All in all, the Spurs gave up too many open perimeter shots to have much a beef. They couldn't buy a call at the end, but they had opportunities well before that to build a lead and win the game despite the officials.
That said, if that crew puts together a few more efforts like they did tonight, I'd start looking for connections between them and Donaghy.
I just can say ........................3......................... ...
and yes the refs sucked 2nite
I think the spurs didn't shoot enough threes to set the tone.
rightfully so. manu simply went fishing for a foul and didn't get one.
thanx to d.howard
The refs sucked
I thought any of the moving screens called against the Spurs were justifiable calls.
The problem was that they seemed to pick and choose when they wanted to call them. If Tim's hip check is going to be called, then Dwight Howard would have fouled out in about 6 minutes tonight.
Just a rough night for this crew. Well, at least you can't say that they were intimidated by the home crowd...
Listen , we're pissed right now. Let us ing vent.
Absolutely terrible 4th quarter calls:
1. Duncan's 'illegal' pick.
2. Duncan's touch foul on Howard going for a rebound. Turnover.
3. Bonner 'foul' on Rashard 3.
4. Bowen 'foul' on Turkuglu.
5. Howard plowing over Manu as he waited for him.
The Magic were playing out of their minds and then they get these gifts.
I don't like to blame a game on the referees, but when you basically have to make every shot in the last few minutes to have a chance...you've got a problem. We got a few calls earlier in the game, but nothing in the 4th. That offensive phantom foul on tim and the foul on bonner were insanity. whoever says refs don't affect games didn't see the game tonight.
was bonner out of bounds in the last call (the moving screen)?
the Refs ed the game up for the Spurs in the 3rd it was call after call , some werent really right calls and there were late whistles.
I can't help but feel very sad...
I haven't complained about a ref since the league finally cleaned up its act after the Donoghy debacle. Bad calls happen, and they go both ways. But this night was bad enough to justify some complaints.
The refs didn't put all those 3-pointers in the basket for the Magic. They shot well and you have to give them credit for that. But that has nothing to do with the unforgivably bad calls. I don't know who the crew chief was tonight, but he needs a little guidance from the league.
You kinda have to play Howard like we did Amare back in '05. Let him get his (and he's not going to score 40 on you like Amare did, he's nowhere near as versatile with his offensive game) - but you can't leave the shooters.
Orlando did a good job of rotating the ball and finding the open man, but the Spurs made it way too easy for them on at least half of those makes.
Piss poor officiating. I'm not one to complain about things like this, but that was absolutely horrible. Howard steamrolled Manu, then tried to rip his head off, then Bonner breathed near Lewis and they gave Lewis 3 free throws. Also Bowen's foul on Turkoglu, that was a horrible call. That's disgusting.
I thought he had a foot on the line. That call did not bother me half as much as the bailout foul for just putting a hand in Rashard Lewis' face.
like the one with kurt thomas and howard in an alley oop attempt (first half)
Unless you guys were at the game, there is no way you could determine whether Bonner fouled Lewis or not. It was impossible from the camera angles to see whether Bonner got Rashard's right arm or not. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but you're picking the wrong call to b!tch about.
And while Spurs fans are whining about the call against Bowen, let me remind you that in basketball you are not allowed to put your palm on the dribbler's back and lock it there. If you play ball you would know that gives the defender a huge advantage against any move.
The Ginobilli flop was a good no call. Howard was making a spin move away from Manu, not lowering the shoulder into him. Had he kept going forward it would have been a charge but it was pretty obvious to anyone not a Spurs fan that Manu was flopping. His reputation preceded him on that one.
To all my old friends here, a big o.
one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen..
the Howard charge, where Ginobili was parked in for a few seconds before Dwight even made a move..
the Duncan-Howard "push off" on the rebound..
the Bowen "foul" on Turkoglu LOL Turkoglu wasn't even moving or even thinking about moving at that point..Bowen didn't even tough him as well, other than having his hand on his back, which is allowed when the defender has his back to you and not making a move..
the Bonner "foul" on Lewis for 3, where he didn't even touch him..
these plays affected the game in a major way..I'm only mentioning these, because they were some of the worst calls I've ever seen..
What about when they put Hedo on the line when Bruce is just guarding him 35 ft from the basket.
Un ingbelieveable.
HOLY CRAP, O TARUKY. I know you hate me, but it's good to see you around here. You're boy is playing much better now the he hasn't had the pressure of playing on a Championship caliber team.
Agree 100%. But if that had been called consistently tonight, Courtney Lee would have lasted for about 93 seconds before fouling out.
My beef isn't so much with any individual call. It was the selectivity of when they were called.
We're venting obviously, but there's not a fan base in the league (including yours) that would be happy with watching the team consistently drive to the rim and pound the ball inside to dominant post, meanwhile the opponent is chucking up twice as many 3s, only to see the opponent go +5 at the FT line.
Officials have bad games too, and this was about the equivalent of the effort that the Hawks gave in Orlando the other day.
The Spurs didn't get robbed, they got beat.
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