Again, throughout Spurs history, the Spurs are the best when Parker is scoring. Last night we witnessed something only seen about 20% of the time in games in which Parker scores 25+ points -- a loss. The other 80% of the time the Spurs win.
If there was any proof that Parker shooting a lot hurts the Spurs, I'd be all for him holding back. But when there's 7+ years of proof that show otherwise, that argument fails to hold water.
Plus if you happened to watch the game, you would have seen that the Magic purposely weren't leaving anyone open for Parker to pass to. They were forcing him to score rather than pass. SVG gambled that Parker couldn't win the game by himself. Until he ran out of gas, Parker was on track to make that strategy fail.
But yeah, let's just simplify it by looking at the box score and pointing to Parker's FGAs and saying that he needed to transfer some of his shots over to Mason and Bonner. We'll ignore that neither were open and that Pop wasn't calling plays for either of those players.
Are you saying you thought his late game shot selection was good? And no I'm not blaming him for the loss.New Age Spurs Fans are hilarious. Parker is once again the scapegoat after going for 31 points and six assists while shooting 13-for-24 from the floor and turning the ball over only twice. Not Duncan, who was MIA for about 70% of the game, or Ginobili, who had a team worst plus/minus and was obviously hurting more than helping. Parker takes the blame.
Amazing.
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I hope your not referring to me as a new age spurs fan. I went to my share of Spurs games at Hemisphere arena and will test my knowledge against ANYONE on this board. Duncan has been playing well as of late and he does take some bad shots so he is not immune to criticism. My problem lies with TP not involving his teamates and taking dumb shots. Well let's include Manu and TD for taking dumb shots. Better now?New Age Spurs Fans are hilarious. Parker is once again the scapegoat after going for 31 points and six assists while shooting 13-for-24 from the floor and turning the ball over only twice. Not Duncan, who was MIA for about 70% of the game, or Ginobili, who had a team worst plus/minus and was obviously hurting more than helping. Parker takes the blame.
Amazing.
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yes, those shots normally fall
-Mars
The Spurs are best if Tony's scoring comes from open shots and good penetration i.e. not driving into more defenders and throwing up stupid shots. Manu does it too but Tony does it more frequently. Obviously if a player scores a bunch of points and he has Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili on his team, the trend is they're going to win. I'm looking at shot selection. Sometimes Tony had good shot selection. But recently it has been subpar.
Uh, yeah it was excellent. Two layups that he hits about 75% of the time? What more do you want?
His shot selection can't be that poor. He shoots 50 percent from the field. Don't act like he's Iverson or Arenas.
Maybe I was too vague. Him taking ill-advised shots is a trend I don't like seeing. Tim had several last night too.
Do you know what a trend is?Plus if you happened to watch the game, you would have seen that the Magic purposely weren't leaving anyone open for Parker to pass to. They were forcing him to score rather than pass. SVG gambled that Parker couldn't win the game by himself. Until he ran out of gas, Parker was on track to make that strategy fail.
But yeah, let's just simplify it by looking at the box score and pointing to Parker's FGAs and saying that he needed to transfer some of his shots over to Mason and Bonner. We'll ignore that neither were open and that Pop wasn't calling plays for either of those players.
I'm not. I'm saying his FG% would be even higher if he didn't think he was superman or something. I counted 3 times last night (at least) where he went into the lane against more than one defender and threw up a stupid shot. He needs to realize if it's not there he needs to back it out. And yes there were people open on those plays.
How do you involve teammates who happen to be stand-still shooters when the Magic are not sending any help and Pop isn't calling plays for said teammates? There's only so much Parker is in control of. It's not like he was ignoring open teammates ... they Magic specifically weren't leaving those teammates open.
If you wanted those teammates more involved, in the Magic game that's more on Pop than TP.
How much time was left on the shotclock on each possession? How many defenders were within 5 feet of him?
Wow....
Link? Scoring is scoring in the history books ... unless you can show me otherwise.
What specific shots are you questioning? A point guard can't shoot 50%+ and have too poor of shot selection.
So he should pass up layups now?
wow....
WHEN THEY"RE CONTESTED AND YOU NEED TO RESET YES!!!!!
Name the shots.
How how would his FG% be if he took only Shastafarian approved shots? 60%? 70%?
That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the fact that if he scores on one of the contested layups, he'll miss on the next 3 or 4. That one score is outweighed by his continued shot selection.
Actually they can. Or do you not understand percentages?What specific shots are you questioning? A point guard can't shoot 50%+ and have too poor of shot selection.
I sat right at the hoop for Parker's two missed layups.
They were hardly contested. He just missed them.
Your wrong, deal with it.
You do know that 50% shooting for a guard is good.
Right?
Oh ok. That one in the first quarter. And then again in the second. Oh and there was one near the end of the that one game from a while ago. I'm gonna watch the Laker game and write down every time he takes a stupid shot just for you.
Hard to say. Would you be hanging all over his nuts like you are now?How how would his FG% be if he took only Shastafarian approved shots? 60%? 70%?
His second missed shot might not have been but the first one was.
Wrong, he broke free on the baseline, it literally happened right in front of me.
Hardly contested.
Keep crawdading in your hate spewage though.
You seriously have a problem with Parker's last two shots? I can see you being angered that he missed but those were great attempts that he almost always makes. That last one was a simple blown layup that you won't see him miss more than a couple times per season.
And what does the time on the shotclock have to do with anything? There was under a minute to go in the game. The Spurs were down by multiple possessions. The best possible scenario is to get an easy shot at the rim ASAP. Parker got that twice ... he just happened to miss both. Hate the miss, not the attempt.
So basically you think easy shots Parker always makes were ill-advised? And you were against him taking quick shots with under a minute to go in the game with the Spurs down multiple possessions?
Really?
It feels like I'm talking to a wall. Yes I understand he shoots a good %. I don't see why that would absolve him from criticism on his shot selection. Or are you gonna tell me that airball he threw up was just unlucky?
That doesn't sound like a 50%+ shooter to me.
So you don't want to name the shots?
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