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    well we posted in the same time so i hope you have your answer.

    it has nothing to do with being biased even if i have to admit the TP hating is, well, let's say annoying.

    I have no problem to say Tony was often till 06 in PO. I have no problem to say he's gold since few years in clutch times.
    Your Tony’s balls sucking is getting annoying too my friend.

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    Your Tony’s balls sucking is getting annoying too my friend.
    my friend ? you're talking to the wrong person, "my friend". for me, you're just a lame poster who thinks he's smart by throwing a pathetic barb to someone while adding a stupid and meaningless smiley.

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    Your Tony’s balls sucking is getting annoying too my friend.
    How the does giving praise where praise is due cons ute ball sucking. I won't argue Kace is a bit of a Tony homer, but not anymore than the hundreds of Manu homers roaming around here. Plus he damn sure is right about one thing. Tony doesn't nearly the recognition he should in this forum.

    Having said that, I do believe you went overboard with the "clutchest by far" crap. You and I both know that is bull Kace.

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    my friend ? you're talking to the wrong person, "my friend". for me, you're just a lame poster who thinks he's smart by throwing a pathetic barb to someone while adding a stupid and meaningless smiley.

    I love you too

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    How the does giving praise where praise is due cons ute ball sucking. I won't argue Kace is a bit of a Tony homer, but not anymore than the hundreds of Manu homers roaming around here. Plus he damn sure is right about one thing. Tony doesn't nearly the recognition he should in this forum.

    Having said that, I do believe you went overboard with the "clutchest by far" crap. You and I both know that is bull Kace.
    i said right now and for some years. i meant some few years. it has been the case in the 3 last PO, where clutchness is the most important i think. at least in the stats, that don't say the whole thing for sure. maybe the "by far" was too much anyway.

    and please, don't compare me with the few manu's homers you're talking about. i never felt the need to bash any spur player to appreciate tony. especially not manu, look my posts. and i never praised vacantly and with overreaction tony for his great play. i didn't even create a single thread to praise him after any good game he had. i just reacted to some unfair and blind bashing. and i'll probably stop doing this because i'm wasting my time on this otherwise great forum.

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    TP is an incredible All-Star player and he's a Top-3 PG in the NBA. He is enjoying a terrific season.

    To observe that Tony runs out of gas and appears to be slogging-through-the-mud, late in games as the season wears on is not any news flash...nor is it "bashing" him. It just happens. Fortunately, he has Tim, Manu, Fin, Mason and Bruce to help him finish games and avoid dominating the ball or failing to execute when he's tired in crunch time. Unfortunately, Les Bleus could not surround TP (injuries and lack of talent) with this type of supporting cast for Eurobasket Quals.

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    We have three clutch players (maybe a fourth & fifth if you count Mason and Bowen-both can knock down big shots). I think we are very fortunate to have that. Who cares who is the most clutch?

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    Why not more Mason screen and roll with Duncan from 25 feet straight-a-way? That worked almost every time

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    Kace, le combat est noble, la lutte est belle.

    Courage à toi car les redoutables bacheurs du numéro 9 sont ici légion.

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    To observe that Tony runs out of gas and appears to be slogging-through-the-mud, late in games as the season wears on is not any news flash...nor is it "bashing" him. It just happens.
    Agreed. That "slogging-through-the-mud" analogy is perfect. TP invariably hits a point in the season in which he starts to get fatigued easily, always seems to have his hands on his knees gasping for air and his legs move a lot slower than regular. Thankfully the annual pattern recently includes him regaining his form for the playoffs.

    But yeah, after all these years each player's pattern is pretty obvious:

    -TD spends much of the first half of the season sleepwalking on defense. He slowly ups his effort until he's at the top of his game in the playoffs. In an attempt to get TD to up his effort on D sooner, Pop pulls out the soft card.

    -Manu has a couple. First, he has his yearly injury (let's hope he already has that one checked off for this season). And then he has a few stretches through the season in which he becomes extra loose with the ball and turnover prone. That usually requires Pop to bench him, yell at him and then send him back into the game. Rinse and repeat until Manu sharpens his play.

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    Why not more Mason screen and roll with Duncan from 25 feet straight-a-way? That worked almost every time
    Good question. I liked that Mason pick-and-roll at the top of the key. It's tough to defend because Mason has a fast release and a nice hesitation dribble that can get him open. Especially in games like the Orlando contest in which the other team isn't leaving him open, letting Mason run a few pick-and-rolls would be a good idea.

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    Nice report as usual timvp. I actually was able to watch that game (albeit several hours after the fact).

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