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    Two things:

    1- People often complain about the fact that most of today's star athletes and sport related figures are "apolitical", that they never say anything important. Yet when some of them do, just like Cuban, a lot of people start calling them "stupid" or saying they should just shut up. Why? Is there anything wrong in letting out ideas? There is much more harm done when we don't react to something we disagree with, than with criticizing it. So from a philosophical standpoint, I see nothing wrong with an owner defending his team, especially when it seems like he behaved in a relatively correct manner.

    2- Cuban should protest, and so should the Mavs. If Dirk gets suspended for one game against the Jazz for trying to free himself from all the hacking that Harpring and co. were doing to him, then the same should happen to JR. The league has imposed a rule on 'un-natural' movements and that should apply to all. So even from a practical standpoint Cuban is very well justified to protest.

    So if there is nothing wrong from a philo al standpoint and also from a concrete standpoint, than I see no reason to criticize Cuban. I see people using the past to do so, which we all should know is unfair to. Even more so when, as JamStone wrote, his past is often misinterpreted because it was seen as different instead of being seen as enthusiasm for the team he owns.

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    All this because he's the only owner in the league that I've seen go out on the court to argue about what happens during the game. That's far more of an antic than submitting a tape to the league.

    Nice play, though, trying to turn my criticism of Cuban into a completely nonsensical comparison.
    He didn't go on the court for the JR foul.

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    Maybe Cuban should spend more time talking to his players instead of the opposing team;s players, maybe then the Mavericks might win a game on the road again.

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    I can't beleive ppl still don't agree that Cuban hurts the Mavs on and off the floor.

    it doesn't matter if he feeds you lobster daily and buy you pros ues nightly. This is a professional basketball organization, not a country club. He is still a dumb ass clown and while he's owner mavs will never win anything.

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    Maybe Cuban should spend more time talking to his players instead of the opposing team;s players, maybe then the Mavericks might win a game on the road again.
    Maybe the Nuggets should've taken a winner and high-character guy like Chris Bosh, instead of this backwards-fighting pussy:



    Mavs are 10-10 on the road this season, btw. You're the Medvedenko of Nuggets fans.

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    How many owners travel with their team and sit behind the team bench on road games and sit courtside for home games rather than in a box seat? How many owners cheer like real fans for their team? A few years ago, how many owners had individualized computers with internet access at every player's locker? How many owners had first class gourmet chefs cook for the team? How many owners had players from other teams go up to them after the game to shoot the breeze? How many owners had their own reality TV show?

    You can't compare Cuban with most other NBA owners because he's never been like most other NBA owners. Cuban might be a jackass and even a bag sometimes, but you cannot just simply say something he does is wrong or way out of line because no other NBA owner would do it. Cuban is obviously different from any other owner in the NBA, even the Maloofs.

    I don't even really like Cuban. I do think he's a jackass a lot of times. But come on. You're being a if you really believe he was reaching a new level of iness in this case.

    I'm sorry, but this is an internet message board, and I believe that I have the right to my opinion whether you agree with it or not. I don't think owners should be interacting with players of other teams, plain and simple.

    Reread my post, including the part you didn't quote. I didn't call anyone a ' ' and am rather surprised that a normally classy poster such as yourself would use that on me simply because our POVs are different.

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    I can't beleive ppl still don't agree that Cuban hurts the Mavs on and off the floor.
    Ross Perot Jr.

    it doesn't matter if he feeds you lobster daily and buy you pros ues nightly. This is a professional basketball organization, not a country club. He is still a dumb ass clown and while he's owner mavs will never win anything
    Half the franchises in the league don't have a le, and in the past 22 years, only 7 franchises have gotten a ring. There's an even smaller group of clubs that don't even have a Finals appearance. The Mavs are not one of them, unlike the Nuggets.

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    I can't beleive ppl still don't agree that Cuban hurts the Mavs on and off the floor.

    it doesn't matter if he feeds you lobster daily and buy you pros ues nightly. This is a professional basketball organization, not a country club. He is still a dumb ass clown and while he's owner mavs will never win anything.
    What was wrong in what he did last night? Saying that he disagrees with a decision and wants to league the review the call?

    I can't believe peoplea are still unwilling to look at the real facts but would rather go with popular myths.

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    What was wrong in what he did last night? Saying that he disagrees with a decision and wants to league the review the call?

    I can't believe peoplea are still unwilling to look at the real facts but would rather go with popular myths.
    well first of all he should not make any decision until reviewing the tape and consulting ppl who actually know bball. 2nd, he should not say anything directly to media.

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    well first of all he should not make any decision until reviewing the tape and consulting ppl who actually know bball.
    Read the article.

    2nd, he should not say anything directly to media.

    Why not?

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    because he looks like a crybaby to everyone except homer mavfans.

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    because he looks like a crybaby to everyone except homer mavfans.
    It sure is important that he have the respect and admiration of Spurs fans.

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    Maybe the Nuggets should've taken a winner and high-character guy like Chris Bosh, instead of this backwards-fighting pussy:



    Mavs are 10-10 on the road this season, btw. You're the Medvedenko of Nuggets fans.
    BOSH a winner?!

    Yeh the Raps are real scary this season, did you 4get the 39 pt loss they had to Melo and the Nuggets?! The Raps are 16-23, they suck and he is part of the team.

    No wonder your a Mavs fan, when the team owner is a huge bag it means people tend to overlook how stupid some Mavs fans are.

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    oh and its funny calling out Melo with people like Jet and Craphouse on the Mavs, real high character guys......

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    BOSH a winner?!

    Yeh the Raps are real scary this season, did you 4get the 39 pt loss they had to Melo and the Nuggets?! The Raps are 16-23, they suck and he is part of the team.
    Chris Bosh is a much better player than Carmelo Anthony. The Raptors would be worse and the Nuggets would be better if they swapped straight-up. And Bosh isn't a pussy. He's never thrown a punch at somebody and then run away like a girl. I'm also pretty sure that he never let Sasha Vujacich get under his skin either. Carmelo Anthony is the definition of a loser. I'm glad I'm not forced to root for such a POS.

    No wonder your a Mavs fan, when the team owner is a huge bag it means people tend to overlook how stupid some Mavs fans are.
    I'm not the one that started a thread because I have sand in my vagina over the Mavs sending a tape to the league showing JR Smith throwing an elbow at somebody's head. That says a lot.

    oh and its funny calling out Melo with people like Jet and Craphouse on the Mavs, real high character guys......
    You're totally right, Jason Terry was in that critically-acclaimed movie "Stop Snitching." Jason Terry is a huge POS:

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-79133401.html

    http://www.nba.com/mavericks/communi...ty_assist.html

    http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...2-31/index.htm

    http://www.jasonterryfoundation.org/

    And Jerry Stackhouse will stand and fight. He won't turn tail like a ing girl.

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    I'm sorry, but this is an internet message board, and I believe that I have the right to my opinion whether you agree with it or not. I don't think owners should be interacting with players of other teams, plain and simple.
    You're more than en led to your opinion and free to express it. You're making a semantical argument. I'm not implying that you are not allowed to have your opinion on the matter when I say, "you simply cannot..." I'm expressing my opinion that that opinion is wrong.

    Reread my post, including the part you didn't quote. I didn't call anyone a ' ' and am rather surprised that a normally classy poster such as yourself would use that on me simply because our POVs are different.
    The le of the thread says Cuban "reaches a new level of iness. Don't take it so personally that in my post I'm making a generalized statement about people calling him a simply because I quoted your post. That end part of my post was generally directed at people who agree with the original post in this thread that Cuban reached a new level of iness.

    And this is an internet messageboard. Since when should anyone expect "classy" behavior from anyone? Relax. It wasn't personal.

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    Somebody needs to smack Cuban in the mouth and shut him up for a while...sucking soup thru a straw.

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    All this because they're going to submit a tape to the league? How is that different from 29 other teams? Isn't every other team in the league guilty of such "antics?"
    If he's sending the tape to the league, WTF he has to do walking in there and talking to JR Smith? Cuban is not the league. The league is the one that should be contacting JR Smith, not Cuban. What is he doing talking to the guy???
    There are appropriate channels for stuff like this, but going in front of another team's player and telling him he's going to rat him out is not one of them.
    I'm also wondering wether he would have done jack if the Mavs won.

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    Chris Bosh is a much better player than Carmelo Anthony. The Raptors would be worse and the Nuggets would be better if they swapped straight-up. And Bosh isn't a pussy. He's never thrown a punch at somebody and then run away like a girl. I'm also pretty sure that he never let Sasha Vujacich get under his skin either. Carmelo Anthony is the definition of a loser. I'm glad I'm not forced to root for such a POS.

    .
    Well im glad i dont have to root for a crappy team like the Mavs. Pathetic owner, choking superstar, dirty players and cry babies.

    Maybe the Mavs can draft someone decent in the lottery this year. Best of luck with that

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    If he's sending the tape to the league, WTF he has to do walking in there and talking to JR Smith? Cuban is not the league. The league is the one that should be contacting JR Smith, not Cuban. What is he doing talking to the guy???
    There are appropriate channels for stuff like this, but going in front of another team's player and telling him he's going to rat him out is not one of them.
    I'm also wondering wether he would have done jack if the Mavs won.
    Who ing cares? It's a two-way street. If he got all pissy if somebody did the same to him, then he's a hypocrite. The do you care if he confronts JR Smith over a cheapshot elbow?

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    eh im done arguing, I hate the Mavs and you hate the Nuggets In the end it is just a bunch of millionaire kids running around just making some shots

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    Well im glad i dont have to root for a crappy team like the Mavs. Pathetic owner, choking superstar, dirty players and cry babies.
    You're awfully proud over your little team's mild "success" this year, aren't you? I'm glad I don't have to root for your team and its pathetic "franchise" player. Dirk has a Finals appearance. Carmelo has a 15 game suspension for being a huge pussy. It's appropriate that you're a Nuggets fan: Your best player is a huge vagina, and you have sand in yours over the Mavs sending a tape to the league.

    Maybe the Mavs can draft someone decent in the lottery this year. Best of luck with that
    The Mavs and the Nuggets have something in common: They won't be making it past the first round this year. Maybe the Nuggets can get lucky and will win more than 1 game in the playoffs this year. Best of luck with that.

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    eh im done arguing, I hate the Mavs and you hate the Nuggets In the end it is just a bunch of millionaire kids running around just making some shots
    We don't hate the Nuggs, no reason to. Actually I am a big fan of Nene, and I like Chauncey as well.

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    eh im done arguing, I hate the Mavs and you hate the Nuggets In the end it is just a bunch of millionaire kids running around just making some shots
    I don't hate the Nuggets. I don't ever contemplate on the Nuggets. They're an irrelevant franchise that's never done anything. Stop fooling yourself that the Nuggets are even on my radar.

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    Who ing cares? It's a two-way street. If he got all pissy if somebody did the same to him, then he's a hypocrite. The do you care if he confronts JR Smith over a cheapshot elbow?
    He's not a ing fan. He's a team owner. There's this thing called professionalism.

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