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New Orleans still seems like a bubble team. Not sure if they have the fire power to get past L.A. or the Spurs.
Tell me about it... I hate every game the Spurs play against NOH because of West. We just don't have anyone who can stop him.
New Orleans still seems like a bubble team. Not sure if they have the fire power to get past L.A. or the Spurs.
The Suns will probably get the 5th or 6th seed, putting them in much better position to advance.
And that's a pretty obtuse thing to say for someone who used to criticize the Suns small-ball lineup with Marion so much. You know as well as everyone else that a small lineup with Marion and Amare at the 4 and 5 wouldn't go very far in today's West.
I still have qualms regarding Shaq with this team as presently constructed. On this team there are two smart players, Nash and Hill. Neither is capable of carrying this team any more for long stretches, which is a concern.
Shaq does what he does and Amare is efficient on offense in whatever role given him, but neither is basketball smart. Instinctive, thus capable in specific scenerios, yes, but able to quickly deduce the proper decision in whatever scenario presented, not so much.
After the two intelligent, but physically limited Nash and Hill and the two physically dominant, but intellectually limited Shaq and Amare, this team has a bunch of fliers and chuckers in Amundson, Barnes, Richardson and Barbosa. Not a one of them has basketball smarts to consistently make the right decision to the benefit of Phoenix, but each is still relied upon heavily to bail out the Suns age athletically, which is a concern evidenced by Richardson leaving Mason Jr. open to double-team Parker when a two only ties, but a three wins and the player shooting the two is off-balanced and at a difficult angle while the man shooting the three is set and a league leader in percentage from that spot.
After those seven, they are undersized, underskilled or underexperienced.
This team has plenty of talent, but lacks ability, understanding or consistency in too many crucial areas for me to believe they can go farther than the second round. There's just an abundance of ways for teams to exploit these issues, and beyond the first-round (and even sometimes in it), the teams are too good, too well-coached, too seasoned to fail at this.
Porter is still battling to break the apathy/inability instilled, then willed in these players under D'Antoni. He's made solid progress. His plan works when it should. However, in close games the Suns still struggle too mightily for me to put my faith in them vs. San Antonio, Los Angeles... with Utah and New Orleans being up there as well.
Been watching them since 93. They were a Duncan 3 away from having a of a series last year. Two suspensions from likely taking them out a couple seasons back. The young and upcoming teams are the ones I worry about the most now.
Hey JMarks, how's your boy Lopez doing
Nash's bball IQ < Shaq's bball IQ. Have you watched the decisions he makes on defense? He's like the Roy Williams (the safety not receiver) of the NBA.
If you think Porter has done anything better than D'antoni you have lost all rights to comment on IQ's.
Boy they should have just listened to your mumbo jumbo about starting Robin "can't rebound" Lopez over Shaq and they'd be the top seed in the West
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Shaq hits 12 free throws in a row. I wonder if thats his longest streak.
My comment was sarcastic, it wasn't meant to be a taken literally.
As far as the Duncan 3 and the suspensions.....shoulda.....woulda.....coulda. Amare earned his suspension fair and square. He should have stayed on the bench if he wanted to play game 5.
Considering my proposed lineups were never given a chance, I find it odd you delight in rubbing my face in a non-existent failure of mine.Hey JMarks, how's your boy Lopez doing
This is absurd. He's physically incapable of playing better defense, but mentally limited to do such.
D'Antoni was a brilliant offensive strategist, but was unwilling to adapt and adjust when necessary. This was either because he was incapable or because he was unwilling. Regardless, D'Antoni's idea of offense was chaotic at best and disruptive at worst vs. top defensive teams when the game was on the line. They lost far more big games than they won under him. He failed to hold players accountable for mistakes.If you think Porter has done anything better than D'antoni you have lost all rights to comment on IQ's.
He let his players play, which in this over-thought-out day and age was refreshing and something new enough to catch most teams off guard. The best teams never fell prey to the notions, however, and when the Suns required him to be accountable both for his schemes and his players, he up and left.
I never said it was brilliant. I never said it would spring them to the top of the league. That's your hyperbole, not mine. I said that starting Lopez and Barnes over Shaq and Hill brought unity athletically to the starting lineup, and may have given Nash the ability to run the best while bringing Shaq and Hill off the bench would be a stabilizing force, allowing each to dominate against lesser compe ion, thus keeping them fresher for longer, while also adding consistency to the bench.Boy they should have just listened to your mumbo jumbo about starting Robin "can't rebound" Lopez over Shaq and they'd be the top seed in the West
You praise D'Antoni at the expense of Porter in an attempt to bash me. You praise Shaq at the expense of Lopez in an attempt to bash me. But you fail to connect that Porter has gotten more out of Shaq than D'Antoni, but then infer I'm an idiot for thinking Porter has done aspects better than D'Antoni, so I'm not sure where your focus is coming from.
Lakers would dismantle Phoenix in 5.
And their defense is worse under Porter, their offense is as well. Also, Porter hasn't held players accountable at all. He has the same brain dead look on his face throughout the game.D'Antoni was a brilliant offensive strategist, but was unwilling to adapt and adjust when necessary. This was either because he was incapable or because he was unwilling. Regardless, D'Antoni's idea of offense was chaotic at best and disruptive at worst vs. top defensive teams when the game was on the line. They lost far more big games than they won under him. He failed to hold players accountable for mistakes.
No, Shaq is healthy this year and had a whole off season to work with Aaron Nelson on his conditioning. Porter had nothing to do with that.But you fail to connect that Porter has gotten more out of Shaq than D'Antoni
So he's physically incapable of staying near his man? His physical limitations make it so he has to run around and ball hawk and leave a player wide open? Watch Nash on D for a game, his physical limitations are a problem, but he does not play defense as good as he can.He's physically incapable of playing better defense
I infer anyone that thinks Porter has made the Suns better in any way is an idiot. Their defense and offense is worse this year than last year, and the starters are playing more minutes. Show me what Porter has done better, and try giving a reason that wasn't spoon fed to you by some homer 620 KTAR radio show.then infer I'm an idiot for thinking Porter has done aspects better than D'Antoni
You mention Lopez is athletic (even though he really isn't) but fail to mention the fact he is completely uncoordinated and sucks. THE IDIOT HAS AS MANY FOULS AS HE DOES REBOUNDS, WHY THE WOULD YOU PUT HIM IN THE STARTING LINEUP?????I said that starting Lopez and Barnes over Shaq and Hill brought unity athletically to the starting lineup, and may have given Nash the ability to run the best while bringing Shaq and Hill off the bench would be a stabilizing force, allowing each to dominate against lesser compe ion, thus keeping them fresher for longer, while also adding consistency to the bench.
Only to have their asses kicked out after 1 or 2 rounds
It would be 6. Phoenix would probably lose game 1 and 2. They'd win game 3, lose a close game 4 because Amare did something extremely re ed at the end of the game and then he'd blame it on someone else and make some stupid statement comparing himself to Tupac.
Phoenix would then blow out the Lakers in game 5 because Amare didn't force any shots, played within the offense, and did a half decent job guarding Gasol/Odom. Amare would then be envious of Shaq playing well when game 6 starts, so he would drop 30 points but would take 33 shots and make sure the offense would never be in rhythm.
The entire off season would then be a bunch of re ed Amare homers saying, "If only Amare took 30 shots in every game the Suns would have swept the Lakers, TRADE SHAQ AND NASH SO AMARE IS THA MAN!!!!"
Go back to planetorange.net homer.
I'm guessing 2 rounds, but we'll have to wait and see. There's a reason why they play the games.
If they play any team in the Northwest division they def. make the 2nd round.
Right now I think our team could beat the Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, Mavericks, or Blazers in a 7-game series. The Lakers, Spurs, and Hornets are currently better but things might change down the road. I'm optimistic since we've slowly improved over the season and things seem to be getting better.
This clearly shows you know nothing of me nor have any desire to be a civil poster. You disagreed with me on one small point over a month ago and are now bent on my destruction. You're pretty pathetic. If anything, I am and have always been the an hesis of your opinion of me. You can ask any member on these boards. But I know you won't.
Me personally the suns need to find away to avoid the Spurs ...they have a mental block vs. those guys and if they get them ion the 1st round again it will be one and done I do think they could beat a denver or Utah maybe and would be tough for NO or Houston ...but Lakers and Spurs would make quick work of those guys
Shaq looks good Richardson can score ...problem is they have NO ONE to gaurd Kobe or Gasol
I wanna Suns vs Lakers in the Playoffs so bad...
If the blazers can make the playoffs the one team I would hate to see them play is the suns... they seem to have the most problems with them.. other than the one game this year the blazers have won against them I cant remember a time before that lol..
Suns and Portland are going to be monstrous lower seeds. If Denver is a lower seed they will be much tougher to beat than in the past. A lot of things cna change over the next half of a season, though.
The Suns, as presently constructed, have no chance of making the Finals. Their pick'n'roll defense is atrocious. Also, they should have a better backup big than freakin' Lopez. And a better wing defender. And a decent backup PG. I'm very skeptical about the play-offs chances of this team; too many glaring flaws that teams will game-plan to when PO basketball arrives. Regular season yeah, they're good enough.
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