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I didn't say the Spurs can't compete.
I said if they played like they did tonight they won't have much of a chance. You're not going to beat LAL in a shoot-out. I shouldn't have to tell you this.
We can compete. You're an idiot if you don't think that. But as far as winning a 7 game series...we need another big and then we will have the pieces to beat L.A. in a 7 game series. At least I think that at this point.
I didn't say the Spurs can't compete.
I said if they played like they did tonight they won't have much of a chance. You're not going to beat LAL in a shoot-out. I shouldn't have to tell you this.
yeah, just like you needed a Spurs team with one leg of the tripod hobbled to beat us last time, or do you actually believe Sasha is capable of stopping a healthy Manu?
Plus, its not like you were missing Bynum or Odom or Gasol. What exactly is your contention here? that Farmar and Vujacic would have made a world of a difference here? I mean you weren't exactly going to shoot any better from the perimeter... it doesn't get any better than 56% from downtown mate, and that is pretty much what kept your ass in the game. You might want to argue that Vujacic would have helped your D, but with the way the two teams were playing 0 defense, I really doubt Sasha would have had any impact.
To add insult to injury, you bring up the "it was the second game of a back to back" crap, when it clearly was not the reason you lost. How does a tired team run the court like the Lakers did today? How does a tired team shoot like the Lakers shot today? unless you believe a fresh team would have shot better than 56% from the field and %56 from downtown... which is a bit unreaslistic really.
role players are a big deal. if you were missing mason and george hill and bonner it would be a big deal to you guys too. you bring up the ginobli argument. my answer to that is at least he played unlike bynum who was on injured reserve. ginobli could actually make it to the court .
I'm not saying role players don't matter, I'm saying the players you had on the court today played as good as anything Vujacic could have provided. Just because he didn't play doesn't mean you missed something. After all, you can only have 5 players out on the court at once, and when those players, whoever they are, play like the Lakers played today (offensively that is) one or two missing role players aren't going to make the difference.
and with regards to the Manu argument. If you watched the Lakers vs. Spurs series last playoffs at all, you would have realized that at times, no manu would have been better than the half manu we got. Since when is a hobbled anything better than a healthy replacement? Granted, the Spurs didn't have anyone to replace Manu with last season... we do now.
The Lakers were missing two scrubs tonight its equivalent to spurs fans ing after a loss that had Jacque Vaughn and Udoka played that the outcome would have been different. The reason the Lakers cameback in the game tonight was because the scrub Powell went on bs run where he was hitting J's all over the place. That guy is straight up garbage and I can say that because I watched him play at NC.State. Had he not caught fire the Lakers lose the game by double digits because nobody else was scoring at that period of time.
Well if the Lakers had a healthy Bynum and Ariza it wouldn't have mattered anyways. They still would have beaten the Spurs with a healthy Manu. So your little woulda-coulda-shoulda game is kind of pointless if you ask me.
I'm not giving excuses for the Lakers losing tonight. I din't expect them to win, SAS is a good home team and I knew they'd play a good game. But the Spurs didn't convince me that anything would change in the playoffs. They played LAL's tempo and had to out-offense them to a victory. They couldn't stop the Lakers or Kobe. In a 7 game series I'm going to take the team that scores high percentage looks in the paint every time over the jump shooting perimeter oriented team.
And good teams lose games on the road.
Cavs lost to the freaking Wizards who didn't have half their players. happens. Does it mean the Wizards could beat the Cavs in the playoffs? no.
And the Lakers don't convince me that they still aren't soft as tissue paper. Your defense is mediocre at best even though you had a good 2-3 minute stretch were it was great but that can't be maintained for 48 minutes.
The Lakers aren't soft, just lazy and complacent. They've proved against BOS they aren't soft and that they can play D for 48 minutes.
What you need to realize is the Spurs aren't the measuring stick. BOS was. The Cavs will be. Everyone else in the NBA is a notch below.
They are soft as tissue paper they beat Boston in game where Boston didn't play desperate like the Lakers did to get the win. Also until they redeem themselves for that choke job they did in the finals they are still soft.
so you're basing your assumption of the Lakers on the Boston game? so just 1 game? against a team that was struggling heavily, just last week..against bad teams..
we'll see how they play against Cleveland..they're the team to beat so far..
Oh well. You live ti fight another day.
where the do you get off comparing the Spurs to the ing Wizards??
Fine, believe what you will. We'll see when the POs come around. It is, after all, only January.
I think we just did. But I may be wrong.
Ok, so it was one gameActually if the Spurs shoot like this against the Lakers on a consistent basis I like their chances. The defense for either team won't always be this bad and you know it.
man... I will enjoy stuffing that over confidence of yours down your throat when we beat your ass in the Conference Finals.
When the Lakers faced BOS they had just rattled off 19 wins. They had sky-high confidence and were playing some incredible basketball. They brought the Celtics back down to earth by beating them in a grind it out, physical, low scoring game that they would have lost last season.
You have to make the Conference Finals 1st.
Jumpshooting teams never win rings.
Eh, a lot of these people were probably saying "wait till you beat them in the playoffs" after LA's Christmas game, but are singing a different tune now. A great effort after a gut it out win yesterday.
Whose to say the Lakers, or Kobe, can keep playing at this level the next time we meet in the playoffs? IIRC, Kobe played out of his mind in last years series. It can go either way in terms of who can keep up the hot play. It all depends on whose got the momentum and confidence. You can't tell me this doesn't put a in LAs WC superiority complex.
This was a pretty big win simply for the fact that the Spurs historically go on a tailspin after regular season losses against the Lakers. I suspect that would have been even more the case than usual considering it would have been a collapse.
The loss in itself wouldn't have mattered much to me because there were a lot of positives to take away from this game either way ...... but for the team psyche, it was huge.
Have you watched the Spurs during their 4 championships? You cannot say we are not a jumpshooting team. Outside of TD, it is all pretty much jumpshots.
dunno man, spurs played the mercy rule to let the lakers back into the game when up by 8pts heading into the 4th......
a win is a win, beating a team the spurs meant to beat.
HH, why you ban urself from realgm?
spurs need a decent 5 so Duncan can play the 4 spot. Just a defensive big, other than Thomas (another 4), would be adequate enough. Surprised the spurs haven't addressed that yet. I guess there's still time till the trade deadline.
Well we all know you are a stupid er.
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