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    One thing is for sure...the Spurs will not let another team shoot 56% aganst them the rest of this season. That was the worst defense I've seen them play in ten years.

    Yet we still beat the Lakers, because the Lakers are incapable of playing championship D.

    The dose of reality for LA fans is that you know good and well the Spurs can play championship D.

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    how about we dial it down on the insults for a bit. Just enough so that our points get across, is all I'm saying.

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    spurs need a decent 5 so Duncan can play the 4 spot. Just a defensive big, other than Thomas (another 4), would be adequate enough. Surprised the spurs haven't addressed that yet. I guess there's still time till the trade deadline.
    I don't think anybody here is going to argue that an additional defensive presence to provide Duncan with a little help wouldn't be a welcome addition. I'm saying even if we don't get one, we're still capable of beating LA on any given night.

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    It's not a fluke that the Lakers score 111 points in a game. They average 107. The Spurs average 95 and scored 112 tonight. If anything it's the other way around.

    I say you're a jumpshooting team because you are. Spurs scored 112 points tonight and only 34 were in the paint. Lakers scored 111 with 56 points in the paint. You may not realize it now but you will in the playoffs. Jumpshooting teams never win rings. Never.

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    Jumpshooting teams never win rings. Never.
    Um, the Lakers lost to a jumpshooting team last year in the Finals. Who's the big bad post scorer on the Celtics? Pierce curbstomping Kobe doesn't count.

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    Gauranteed hes gonna say KG is the post player.

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    I agree with the original post, it was just a game, but we now know we can compete with everybody else. Now, everyone played well, but this is the time that i think we should try to get as close as we possibly can to them, having HC would he awsome.

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    I don't think anybody here is going to argue that an additional defensive presence to provide Duncan with a little help wouldn't be a welcome addition. I'm saying even if we don't get one, we're still capable of beating LA on any given night.
    I disagree. If the Lakers were able to outrebound the spurs in a 7 game series last year, I don't see how the spurs will be able to compete in another 7 gamer this year. Another big is much needed. Even more so then the Lakers needing a better PG.

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    The Celtics did not rely on jumpshots and 3pters to beat the Lakers. That's for damn sure. They scored plenty of points in the paint. And they played elite defense.

    The Spurs can't do either this season and that's why they will lose. There is no historical track record of a jumpshooting team that plays average defense winning a le.

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    I have to say this was a lucky win for the Spurs. I mean, seriously, we had the lakers on the second night of a back to back where they are missing some players, nothing major but if anything they could have provided rest. the Lakers up their high-and-mighty asses but lets not kid ourselves, we played against a depleted team. I would love to keep our shooting percentage up the way it is but I just dont see it happening. Spurs got a steal of a win tonight, anyone that says otherwise is a homer.

    It was a great game, I just dont see the Spurs keeping that kind of intensity over 7 games with the current roster. Im not saying it CANT be done, Im just saying its a long shot. I REALLY hope Im wrong on that point. We CAN compete but I wouldnt exactly put money down on the Spurs winning the series in the playoffs with our current roster.

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    Dr.House is an idiot..

    the Celtics were clearly a jump-shooting team..look at the stats that I posted in the thread I created an hour ago..Boston was 15th in the NBA in points in the paint last year..

    we rank 6th defensively, LOL @ average..this is with Bowen getting limited minutes to rest for the playoffs, and he's our 2nd best defender..

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    Laker fans on Vujacic and Farmar all the time, but when they're missing them, in come the excuses..

    keep believing that..

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    The Celtics did not rely on jumpshots and 3pters to beat the Lakers. That's for damn sure. They scored plenty of points in the paint. And they played elite defense.

    The Spurs can't do either this season and that's why they will lose. There is no historical track record of a jumpshooting team that plays average defense winning a le.
    where did the Spurs rank in defense for 2007? If you're saying they are a jumpshooting team now, how different were they in 2007? How's your theory that Mason doesn't improve the Spurs over Barry going?

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    underdawg- we're currently 6th defensively, despite the injuries..look at the rankings bro..we have the same style..the injuries have been the main factor here..as for defensively, Bowen resting for the playoffs hurts, but other than that, we should be back in form without an addition..

    we were 3rd last year in points in the paint ALLOWED defensively..this year, we're 12th, but we've been rising for a while..last year we started Oberto next to Duncan, yet still managed to make it to 3rd..Thomas is a significantly better defender than Oberto..the difference is that Duncan gets better defensively as the season continues, just like he has every year for the past 5 years..there's no reason we shouldn't be the same as last year, which was great..

    Dr.House is insecure..

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    A lot of people are asking me why I'm not impressed with the Spur's victory.

    It's because I know what it takes for a team to beat LAL in a 7 game series. You need to hold them to under 100pts, slow the tempo down, and grind out the game and make it as ugly as possible. Beat them up physically. Beat them on the boards.

    The Spurs did none of those things. They simply out-offensed them tonight and that's why I'm not impressed. I know that won't work in the playoffs. you know that won't work in the playoffs.

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    I have to say this was a lucky win for the Spurs. I mean, seriously, we had the lakers on the second night of a back to back where they are missing some players, nothing major but if anything they could have provided rest. the Lakers up their high-and-mighty asses but lets not kid ourselves, we played against a depleted team. I would love to keep our shooting percentage up the way it is but I just dont see it happening. Spurs got a steal of a win tonight, anyone that says otherwise is a homer.

    It was a great game, I just dont see the Spurs keeping that kind of intensity over 7 games with the current roster. Im not saying it CANT be done, Im just saying its a long shot. I REALLY hope Im wrong on that point. We CAN compete but I wouldnt exactly put money down on the Spurs winning the series in the playoffs with our current roster.

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    A lot of people are asking me why I'm not impressed with the Spur's victory.

    It's because I know what it takes for a team to beat LAL in a 7 game series. You need to hold them to under 100pts, slow the tempo down, and grind out the game and make it as ugly as possible. Beat them up physically. Beat them on the boards.

    The Spurs did none of those things. They simply out-offensed them tonight and that's why I'm not impressed. I know that won't work in the playoffs. you know that won't work in the playoffs.
    Fail.

    Last season, the defense against the Lakers was actually good enough. The Lakers averaged the same amount of points against the Spurs as they did against the Celtics. The problem for the Spurs is they couldn't score and went on extended droughts.

    And in '99 and '03, the Spurs got about half of their victories due to offensive explosions. You probably weren't a Laker fan back then but what did defense have to do in '03 in Game 2 or Game 6? Those were both offensive shows that saw the Spurs light up the scoreboard. There were a couple games like that in '99.

    Defensively, I'm pretty confident that the Spurs will be able to hold their own against the Lakers in the playoffs if they are healthy. They have better defensive parts this year, especially against Kobe. Having an offense to go with it is the key.

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    I think the spurs defense will be there come playoff time.Its always kown defense is the last thing you get fully down and I think this spurs can get it down in time for the bigger games.

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    Yeah, Lakers have a what ? 5 game lead ? Hardly that much of a breathing room considering how tough the West is and the fact that it's still January.
    Lots of basketball to be played. You can never count the spurs out. I'm already looking forward to the next Laker vs. Spurs game.

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    great game, we deserved the win, despite the meltdown..

    it's just another win though..obviously it's bigger because it's the Lakers, but a W in January is meaningless..the Lakers were without 2 decent players, and they were playing on a back to back, which is important..

    so just because we beat them now, it doesn't mean anything in the future..

    this adds further evidence that we can COMPETE with the elite teams, but all of you should already know that..I've already analyzed our schedule vs. elite teams, and we just got screwed vs. Orlando..we can clearly COMPETE..

    we still have ways to go though..
    People forget that a win in January is a win at the end of the season and can give a team an important position in the playoffs. Even if the Lakers continue to have the best record in the West, come playoff time I'd rather the Spurs have the second best record with a home court advantage in their playoff bracket.

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    great game, we deserved the win, despite the meltdown..

    it's just another win though..obviously it's bigger because it's the Lakers, but a W in January is meaningless..the Lakers were without 2 decent players, and they were playing on a back to back, which is important..

    so just because we beat them now, it doesn't mean anything in the future..

    this adds further evidence that we can COMPETE with the elite teams, but all of you should already know that..I've already analyzed our schedule vs. elite teams, and we just got screwed vs. Orlando..we can clearly COMPETE..

    we still have ways to go though..
    Disagree. This was a very important game. Even if was in January. This isnt Jan of 2008.

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    Every game is important at this point of the season since the margin for error is very little in the west. With that, the spurs needed this win to boost their confidence. Problem with the spurs right now is theire defensive rotations, we saw a lot of errors in double teaming the rotating to the open shooter. They'll polish it come March since RMJ and Hill have only been with the team for a couple of months now.

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    Fail.

    Last season, the defense against the Lakers was actually good enough. The Lakers averaged the same amount of points against the Spurs as they did against the Celtics. The problem for the Spurs is they couldn't score and went on extended droughts.

    And in '99 and '03, the Spurs got about half of their victories due to offensive explosions. You probably weren't a Laker fan back then but what did defense have to do in '03 in Game 2 or Game 6? Those were both offensive shows that saw the Spurs light up the scoreboard. There were a couple games like that in '99.

    Defensively, I'm pretty confident that the Spurs will be able to hold their own against the Lakers in the playoffs if they are healthy. They have better defensive parts this year, especially against Kobe. Having an offense to go with it is the key.
    I agree, last season the Spurs defense WAS good enough. It was their offense that failed them.

    This year they have the reverse problem. The offense is better but at the expense of their D which has regressed in nearly every category. The most glaring weakness is their weak frontcourt, and that will definitely hurt them in the playoffs if not addressed. The Lakers scored 56/111 pts in the paint. If you let a team consistently score 50% of their points in the paint you aren't going to win many games against them.

    The fact of the matter is the Spurs do not have anyone to guard Kobe. That problem got worse this season, not better. Bowen is incapable of guarding Kobe the way he used to. I watched several sequences where Kobe just blew right by Bowen, I think age is starting to catch up with 37 year old Bruce Bowen. After Bowen the Spurs have nobody remarkable to throw at Kobe. They simply can't sngle cover him anymore.

    The Spurs defense just ain't what it used to be. I can't remember the last time the Lakers dropped 111 on the Spurs. To be able to do that on the 2nd night of a b2b, on the road, and without 3 rotation players is remarkable and shows just how much the Spurs vaunted defense has slipped.

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