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ill give u walton for him
is Bowen now a tradeable asset (for that big everyone keeps talking about)? Would anyone even want him?
We have enough depth with Fin, Mason and George Hill at the guard and small forward positions IMO.
ill give u walton for him
Bill Walton is in his 50's isn't he?
That's the only walton big i can think of.
Sorry, guys.
Just saw a thread like this at the bottome of page.
Are you crazy? Mason did nothing to make me believe that he can be half the defender Bowen is on Kobe.
Bowen didnt guard Kobe much last night but for the few minutes he did you could see he was up to his old tricks again. I believe he got Kobe to make 2 turnovers. Bowen is one of our must clutch players on the team. I wouldnt trade him for another Big. thats for sure.
i thought mason did pretty well. kobe hit a lot of difficult shots (like that last three) and he stayed in front of him for the most part, and usually contested the shot. that's about all you can do. kobe's gonna score no matter who is on him.
The three pointer by Kome to give the Flamers the lead was Mason napping, pure and simple.
And Finley goes before Bowen goes. Sheesh.
In the playoffs, Mason will foul out by halftime is he's guarding Kobe. They will call anything on him because he doesn't have the rep that Bowen had. Now, saying that, I don't think Bowen is going anywhere because he will come in and play big minutes on the opposition's team best wing or 3.
Udoka can leave but we should keep Bowen through this year. I think he may retire after this year anyway.
Are they resting Bowen for the playoffs or something? I don't normally like to see Bruce on the bench for a long period of time when he could be guarding somebody like Kobe.
Mason made Kobe work wich is all you can ask for, but he did ok. Gave him a bit too much space IMO.
Bowen is still too valuable to this team to cut,trade, or waive.
Mason did a decent job on Kobe. About as good as any average defender. He stayed in front of him. Thats all you can ask from an average defender.
Bruce is not your ordinary defender. PJ calls him "Edward Scissorhands" for a reason. Hes pesky,annoying,tough,strong,long and crafty. If anybody knows Kobes tendencies and watches tape on Bryant its Bowen.
I love last night how Kobe started to back down on Bruce right above the free throw line and Bruce "took the chair" from underneath him and Kobe fumbled the ball and Manu took it down the other end for a dunk.
Things like that make you see how valuable Bruce is to the Spurs.
We still need Bruce against Kobe and you know what? Pop knows that.
Mason did a little better than expected, but Bowen is still the best on the ball defender the Spurs have. Last night was Pop playing mad scientist and experimenting to see exactly what the new guys could do against Kobe. Come the playoffs though we'll see more Bruce, with whom Pop is taking an Horry-like approach this year. Having the depth to bring Bruce off the bench adds a whole new wrinkle to the chess match. They can do things like they did last night where Bruce can stay rested and out of any potential foul trouble when the Lakers are focusing more on feeding the ball to their guys on the block, and send him in fresh and ready when it becomes "Kobe time".
No way is Bowen going anywhere! He is one of the best defenders in the league. He is also clutch shooter over and over again. He may be underutilized this year at the "expense" of getting more minutes for Mason, but believe me he will have a major role in the playoffs. I bet he will see more PT in the next Lakers game AT L.A. You just don't trade a player like Bruce away after all he has done and is still capable of. He ain't making much and we wouldn't get much for him anyway. Bruuuuuce!
Bowen will not be traded because he will be on Kobe in the playoffs.
It's all about experimenting and learning during the regular season.
Would you still say that if we lost the game? This game could have gone either way, but Bowen's defense on Kobe will be crutial in a close playoff game. There are other ways to get a big in here.
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You guys are crazy. You NEED Bowen in the playoffs specifically to guard Kobe. Mason will get no respect from the refs.
Hahah, I agree.
Kobe scored damn near 30 points on 58% shooting on Mason, I wouldn't exactly call that stopping Kobe.
If Kobe got it in his mind last night to take the last shot, I don't think Mason could have stopped him. But no, Kobe has to be the team leader and share the ball....sometimes I wish the Ballhog Kobe was back.
Mason is good at defending on ball but he allowed Kobe to get the ball way to easy! Remember the sideline 3 pointer, Mason just let him catch and shoot and barely got a hand up, good D starts before the guy gets the ball.
Sometimes, playing good D just means making the opposing player work hard for his shots. If they go in, they go in but at least you made that person work for it. I thought Kobe was way too comfortable last night at times. He casually dribbled the ball in front of Mason and pulled up for a long 3. JUST LIKE HE DID THE NIGHT BEFORE AGAINST HOUSTON.
Next time, hopefully Mason gets up on him and makes him think about his shot a little more. Don't give him that much room.
I doubt he'd have done better over a double team.
I think mason is a pretty good defender, but after all Bowen still is a great defender even while he lost a little bit!
I like our options with manu and mason plus a guy like bowen zu really make the difference on that end of the court.
that said, I agree, that its a little bit lie with Horry: saving him for die PO's, while he will be the major weapon against the T-Macs, Pauls, Kobes and LeBrons...yeah, exactely in that order...
hard to say, we may need him.
No way we can win a 7 series without a lot of minutes of Bowen on Kobe... no ing way, forget about it. Even for a decent big, trading Bowen would be a huge mistake.
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