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we would not get any kind of decent big for Bowen. Unless we trade him to a contender and we do NOT want Bowen in a contending opposing team. beleive me
As a Lakers fan I would say: "Please replace Bowen with Mason on defense vs Kobe." Kobe would destroy Mason, I think some of you are letting Mason spectacular shot at the end cloud your judgement regrading his defense. There is nothing Mason can offer on defense against Kobe where as Bowen is a pain in Kobe's butt. Mason is one of the MANY guys in the NBA that Kobe looks like he can score on any time he feels like it where as Bowen puts something in Kobe's head that he has to prove something and it takes him out of his regular "team" game IMO.
That being said, I don't know if it was by design or just Manu thinking for himself but those LATE double teams really bothered Kobe and caused two turn overs. Kobe is used to seeing a double team come at him and he's learned to find the open man but when the double comes late, after Kobe has started his move, it seems to throw him and the Lakers off. Throws Kobe off because he's worried about the second defender and the Lakers are thrown off because they are in transition defense/offensive rebounding mode when Kobe starts his move instead of being ready to receive the ball for a shot.
we would not get any kind of decent big for Bowen. Unless we trade him to a contender and we do NOT want Bowen in a contending opposing team. beleive me
Mason's individual defense on Kobe was VERY good. Fabbs, you're an idiot as usual; Kobe took that three because Mason was watching for the pick and backing off to keep Kobe from going past him. The Spurs basically had one double to throw at Kobe, and if you recall, they used it wisely.
Exactly, while I thought he gave him a tad too much room on his shots, alot of Kobe's makes were tough contested shots that Bowen himself couldn't have done much better on.
Kobe's a pick your poison player. He's going to score, and you'd better respect his ability to get past you and go to the rack. I'd have liked to have seen him shoot a lower percentage, but considering that he didn't ing miss a shot last year in the playoffs against Bowen and Udoka, Mason should get a medal for his defense last night, particularly considering how bad Mason's defense was at the beginning of the season. I expected Kobe to feast on him, and Roger stepped up and held his own.
Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemason nnnnnnnn
I'd have preferred he forced him into Duncan, but agreed, on that the best way to defend him is for him to shoot one of those off balance 20 footers that takes the rest of his team out of its offense.
Kobe played a perfect game last night. The Spurs should look at the tape as a prime example of how NOT to guard Kobe Bryant because he was able to setup all his teammates and still score 30 pts.
If Kobe'd played a perfect game, the Lakers would have won. The Spurs used a single double team right at the end with the game on the line and forced Kobe to make the wrong decision. That's the perfect way to guard him. The three pointer he took was ill-advised, it just happened to go in.
I hope Pop thinks his team played good D on Kobe because if that continues the Lakeshow will send you packing again 4-1.
so ur gonna only double team Kobe in the last possesion. Your thinking in hindsight. You guys won by one point and you think thats the way to stop Kobe? Fine, guard him the way you did last night...let him make 30 points with that many assist.
I agree. Mason is awesome, but no Bowen.
I don't care what anyone says, Bowen should still be starting. Someone has to be blind to have not seen Kobe have his way with Bowen off the floor. As soon as Bruce came in Kobe was completely silenced.
The commentators were talking up Kobe as unstoppable and all of a sudden Bruce got on him and Kobe didn't do jack, but the commentators didn't happen to talk about that, of course.
Then Pop, of course, in the 4th goes away from Manu when he was hot and doesn't put Bowen on Kobe and the Lakers made a comeback. We won by one, but come on, we were so close to losing that game.
Exactly, thats why i dont get why some of ur spurs buddies think that was actually good defense on Kobe last night. yes, the last possesion worked, but are you guys gonna wait for a 1 point game to do that.I agree. Mason is awesome, but no Bowen.
I don't care what anyone says, Bowen should still be starting. Someone has to be blind to have not seen Kobe have his way with Bowen off the floor. As soon as Bruce came in Kobe was completely silenced.
The commentators were talking up Kobe as unstoppable and all of a sudden Bruce got on him and Kobe didn't do jack, but the commentators didn't happen to talk about that, of course.
Then Pop, of course, in the 4th goes away from Manu when he was hot and doesn't put Bowen on Kobe and the Lakers made a comeback. We won by one, but come on, we were so close to losing that game.
Any reasonable, open shot in the last few seconds of a game by Kobe is good IMO. Mason, I realize, was watching for a screen, but you don't leave him that open, even as far as Kobe was. IMO, you make him drive, funnel him towards Duncan, or make him put the ball on the floor and do something. Ithink he much less comfortable doing that. I mean, I can't remember ever seeing Kobe make a game winning layup - they're all shots from 15+ feet.
A shot like that is in 75% of time, and prob. even higher in the PO's.
Only if Manu's injured again. Letting the Lakers shoot 57 percent was the problem. Most of the Lakers' damage was done in the post. The Spurs play better post defense and close out the three point line and Kobe could score 40 and it wouldn't have mattered.
How can they play better post defense with the players they have? Other than Duncan neither Thomas nor Bonner can stop Bynum and Gasol.
It's a personnel issue. Not a strategy or effort issue.
Somebody else mentioned it to me, Kobe was only 3 rebounds shy of a triple double.
So he was able to score 29 points 58% FG, grab 7 rebounds and still had time to hand out 10 assists.
I think it's safe to say Bowen bothers him a bit more than Mason.
Kobe did hit some pretty tough shots, but all in all it was a little bit easy for him - Mason is a capable defender, but not against a guy like Kobe.
Usually Kobe struggles against guys with a bit more size and length than he has, something which Mason doesnt have. On numerous occasions Kobe just faked to drive and pulled up from 18 feet and there wasnt a damn thing Mason could do about it but put his hand up no higher than Kobe's chin.
He's ok for stretches in the game, but he has to work more on denying Kobe the ball. I still thought Bowen could have been used alot more last night given that Finley didnt really provide anything.
Bowen is being saved for the playoffs..
I think that's pretty clear considering that Finley gets more minutes than him in many games where Fin struggles, and where we need D..I know Pop plays favorites with Finley, but he's obviously close with Bruce as well..
Well with Bruce in the game you're basically playing 4/5 on offense. Yes he will limit Kobe more than Mason, but Kobe doesn't necessarily need to score for the Lakers to win like he used to have to do.
a little too high off the mason performance i see...bruce bowen is not going anywhere. NO.
bowen for raja bell
At the very least, Mason can be on Kobe and Bruce can completely shut down whichever other Laker is starting to get hot. As has been said before, Kobe is going to get his, but we can stop the other guys with a little ingenuity.
Our transition defense is worse and our rotations in the half court are worse, and it's because Bowen is playing fewer minutes. The only few possessions against Orlando that we strung together stops was when Pop turned Bowen loose on Hedo.
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