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in your dreams, even for both of them.
So you need to have made the All-Star game and been in the playoffs to contribute in the NBA? In that case WTF do you expect Roger Mason to do for you?
What an incredibly weak and horrible argument. I'm sorry but if the Lakers called up the Spurs and said they would trade Bynum+Ariza for Manu the Spurs wouldn't even think twice. they wouldn't think twice if the Lakers only offered Bynum.
Bynum and Ariza do not contribute more than Gino. That's just plain stupid to say. Gino is part of the big 3 for the Spurs. He's a 3-time champion and a gold medalist. He was the best player on that gold medal team.
Bynum and Ariza can't be mentioned in the same breath as Gino. Only a big Laker homer would say something that dumb.
Bynum and Ariza collectively make more of an impact than Manu Ginobili.
The Spurs front office wouldn't think twice if that deal was on the table. You have a distorted view of what Manu is actually worth at this stage of his career, the Spurs couldn't even get half that for him right now.
Yeah, they wouldn't think twice about saying no.
Points combined, who scored more.
Ariza and Bynum, or Ginobili.
You mean to tell me you wouldn't trade Ginobili for Bynum and Ariza right now? Are you ing kidding me?
Right because pts scored is the only way you can impact a game. Are you seriously this dumb?
May I answer that question?
Would you trade Kobe for Kurt Thomas and George Hill?
You mean to tell me you wouldn't trade Ginobili for Bynum and Ariza right now? Are you ing kidding me?
he was suffering from something because at the 3 minute mark when he came back in he was stretching the outta his groin and then Tony P asked him if he was ok...so they knew he was ed up...
is this for real??? ARiza has not proven yet. actually last night he proved he is not ready for prime time. and Bynum....
drhouse whatever you are smoking, is some good
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Bynum is an above average player with a huge contract..he isn't as good as he showed vs. the Spurs, he hasn't been nearly that good this season..24% of his points are dunks, and 90% of them are assisted..the fact that he plays with Kobe and even Gasol, is huge for him..
the Lakers got him for defense and rebounding..he's disappointed in both categories, especially defensively..he adds offense to a team that didn't need any more offense..you can talk all the bull about him allowing Pau to play his natural position..it's true, but what he's doing isn't worth nearly the amount he was paid..he's a soft, overrated player..sorry to break it to you..
Ariza is a good role player, he would help our team.
is this for real??? ARiza has not proven yet. actually last night he proved he is not ready for prime time. and Bynum....
drhouse whatever you are smoking, is some good
The Clippers have a glut of big men and are going nowhere, and it has been mentioned before they'd like to get rid of one of them. If they get desperate enough just to dump salary, they might go for something like this.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...2~24&te=&cash=
We might throw in a 2nd rounder and maybe even some cash to help buy Bowen out; Bowen could then return to S.A., hopefully, on a contract ending in time for 2010. Oberto's contract has a team option on it this summer, I think, and Vaughn's ends after this season. L.A. would have a lot of cap room for this offseason.
Here's another trade I might consider, but probably only if the Spurs can't bring Splitter over this summer or next.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...2~24&te=&cash=
This would get us the long SF we've been wanting, and Portland as a younger team can afford to wait on Splitter; he might be especially useful to them, as they are going to have trouble paying all of their talented young players (especially after Miles plays another game) in the coming years. In addition to a good, cheap big man, they get their veteran Udoka back, whom they seemed to like (just not enough to match the huge bluff offer his agent said he had).
camby in the spurs next to duncan. wow. that would be sick
You guys realize that at this time last year, the Lakers gave up Kwame, Crittenden, and a pick to Memphis for Pau Gasol.
That is the equivalent of the Spurs trading Vaughn (a third string PG), Oberto (a rotation big), and a pick to the Lakers right now for Gasol.
Well, that would be the dumbest trade in NBA history.
So, Memphis' trade last year was the dumbest in NBA history. So dumb, in fact, that it reaked of conspiracy. No wonder Pop - who never says anything about anything - actually said something about it.
Who, exactly, is Ariza again? What the would he do for the Spurs that Manu doesn't?
You mean to tell me you wouldn't trade Ginobili for Bynum and Ariza right now? Are you ing kidding me?
Bynum would be okay to have.... as a 4th or 5th scoring option on the team. Two completely unproven players for one of the most clutch performers in Spurs history? Crazy. If we were in a rebuilding year, you would have a point, because we would get younger and have a big to go with it. We aren't. We're in le contention year. Just wait to see Duncan in the playoffs, when he embarrasses Gasol and Bynum in the post. You think he's playing at 100%? Laugh. He didn't even try on defense yesterday.
Lakers fans would SALIVATE if they got Manu. Kobe and Manu on the court together? No team in the NBA would slow those two down.
Lakers homers are just hilarious.
Ariza who?
You mean to tell me you wouldn't trade Ginobili for Bynum and Ariza right now? Are you ing kidding me?
You got to be out yo mutha in mind if you think we'd trade the white pimp for those two jakes. You don't get it. Manu IS OUR KOBE. He's a killa. Those 2 dudes haven't done in their short careers. Not even a question.
You mean to tell me you wouldn't trade Ginobili for Bynum and Ariza right now? Are you ing kidding me?
End of URBAN VERNACULAR here.
You are not being rational.
There is no way on this planet the Spurs would refuse an offer of Andrew Bynum and Trevor Ariza for Manu Ginobili. Manu maybe has 1-2 seasons left to perform at this level assuming he manages to stay injury free (which is no guarantee).
Andrew Bynum is just barely scratching the surface of what he's capable of. The Spurs would basically have Duncan's replacement waiting in the wings. Ariza is a stellar player and would fit right into SAS's defensive philosophy. He could do Bowen's job acceptably.
Like I said before, your FO would do the trade even if it was just Bynum. There is absolutely no way they turn that down. Absolutely no way.
Nope, they would not do that. I don't think you realize how important Manu is to this team. Before last season, Kobe wanted to ship Bynum out of town and Ariza was a young, often injured player with alot of POTENTIAL.
Manu Ginobili is the real deal with hardware to prove it. He's in the top 5 at his position. The Spurs philosophy is WIN NOW. Potential is over rated.
Nope, we're gonna have to agree to disagree here guys.
Bynum and Ariza would make the Spurs compe ive now and in the future. They could start:
PG: Parker
SG: Finley
SF: Ariza
PF: Duncan
C: Bynum
That's the makings of one of a defensive lineup.
These dumb asses never cease to amaze me. Fakers at their best as usual.
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