with all due respect, itz time to sign/trade for a Big.

[EricB]

BTW, Collison fits into the 2010 plan as well.....

[ChumpDumper]

I thought the Spurs didn't try in January? Oh wait that's only when they lose.

What can I say?

You're wrong and kinda stupid.

[Bruno]

BTW, Collison fits into the 2010 plan as well.....

No, he doesn't.
His contract ends in 2011.

[DrHouse]

What can I say?

You're wrong and kinda stupid.

. You know I'm right.

[ChumpDumper]

. You know I'm right.

Nah, they try. They do things a bit differently during the regular season, but they do try.

[EricB]

No, he doesn't.
His contract ends in 2011.

Then why does it say he has 1 year left on his contract?

[Bruno]

Then why does it say he has 1 year left on his contract?

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...es/thunder.jsp

[ChumpDumper]

Then why does it say he has 1 year left on his contract?

Because someone's source is wrong.

[EricB]

Because someone's source is wrong.

Blame Senorspur

I think he posted an ESPN article or whatever.

[SenorSpur]

My bad guys. I stand corrected. His contract does indeed end in 2011.

http://www.sportscity.com/NBA/Oklahoma-Thunder-Salaries

Guess that rules him out.

[Brazil]

No doubt an additional decent big wouldn't hurt the spurs but what is quite amazing is even with this lack of big the spurs weren't outrebounded by the lakers: 32 / 31 including 7 off rebounds vs. 8 for the lakers. How do you guys explain this pecular stat when we got destroyed on the points near the rim ?

[mogrovejo]

No doubt an additional decent big wouldn't hurt the spurs but what is quite amazing is even with this lack of big the spurs weren't outrebounded by the lakers: 32 / 31 including 7 off rebounds vs. 8 for the lakers. How do you guys explain this pecular stat when we got destroyed on the points near the rim ?

The Spurs and the C's are the best rebounding teams in the league (defensively). The Lakers are the 15th, a middle-of-the-pack team.

Rebounding the defensive glass is a lot about hard work, finding the man and boxing out, make a good use of the smalls and sacrifice some transition game.

The Spurs problem is that they don't have OR - unlike the Lakers, the Celts or the Cavs, or the best rebounding team overall, the Bucks. They did well versus a Lakers team that it's not that good protecting the board - too many people running to play the transition, some guards who don't rebound, too many guys who pursuit the ball instead of boxing out.

Points in the paint allowed are correlated with the quality of the interior defence (or not, it can be that the perimeter defense is so porous that the bigs can only do so much), not with the rebounding. I think that with Oberto the Spurs will be fine. The C's are the club that most definitely needs another big with size and length.

[daslicer]

Collision would be a nice addition. I still have memories in '05 of him giving out hard fouls on Manu,Duncan,Parker. He definitely is not scared to diss out pain and can get rebounds.

[HarlemHeat37]

somebody answer this..

does anybody expect the Lakers bigs to play better than they did last night? I certainly don't..Andrew Bynum isn't good enough to consistently put up 19 points on 5-9 shooting..his low rebounding isn't anything new..he's an above average player, not a good player..Gasol put up 21 points on 10-14 shooting, which is expected, since he's a great player..but he usually struggles vs. Duncan..either way, there's no way they play better than they did last night..

, even Josh Powell scored 6 points in the 4th..

the rebounds were tied at 32..

there's no way the Lakers bigs play better than that IMO..

we ranked 3rd in the NBA last year in interior points allowed, with Oberto-Duncan as the starters..we're 12th right now, and rising..there's no way we don't get in the top 8 by the end of the season..the Spurs D under Pop and Duncan has gotten better after the rodeo trip every season..

[Brazil]

The Spurs and the C's are the best rebounding teams in the league (defensively). The Lakers are the 15th, a middle-of-the-pack team.

Rebounding the defensive glass is a lot about hard work, finding the man and boxing out, make a good use of the smalls and sacrifice some transition game.

The Spurs problem is that they don't have OR - unlike the Lakers, the Celts or the Cavs, or the best rebounding team overall, the Bucks. They did well versus a Lakers team that it's not that good protecting the board - too many people running to play the transition, some guards who don't rebound, too many guys who pursuit the ball instead of boxing out.

Points in the paint allowed are correlated with the quality of the interior defence (or not, it can be that the perimeter defense is so porous that the bigs can only do so much), not with the rebounding. I think that with Oberto the Spurs will be fine. The C's are the club that most definitely needs another big with size and length.

Thanks for sharing your thought, nice reading. I'm pretty sure the spurs could survive without the famous needed big.

[Allanon]

Seriously, are we really worried about Duncan's having to play 38 minutes in the biggest game of the regular season to date?

It's a bit much for a regular season game with all players healthy considering the Laker Bigs still scored 55 points to the Spurs 34. Even with that many minutes by Duncan, there was a large point disparity in the frontlines.

Also, if it takes 38 minutes from Duncan to advance in the Playoffs, he may be a bit worn by the time they reach the WCF.

The Lakers lost this game due to the excellent perimeter play of the Spurs, I just don't know if the Spurs can shoot this hot from the outside in 3 seven game series.

[Thompson]

I posted this in another thread, but it's related to this thread also.

The Clippers have a glut of big men and are going nowhere, and it has been mentioned before they'd like to get rid of one of them. If they get desperate enough just to dump salary, they might go for something like this.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...2~24&te=&cash=

We might throw in a 2nd rounder and maybe even some cash to help buy Bowen out; Bowen could then return to S.A., hopefully, on a contract ending in time for 2010. Oberto's contract has a team option on it this summer, I think, and Vaughn's ends after this season. L.A. would have a lot of cap room for this offseason.

Here's another trade I might consider, but probably only if the Spurs can't bring Splitter over this summer or next.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...2~24&te=&cash=

This would get us the long SF we've been wanting, and Portland as a younger team can afford to wait on Splitter; he might be especially useful to them, as they are going to have trouble paying all of their talented young players (especially after Miles plays another game) in the coming years. In addition to a good, cheap big man, they get their veteran Udoka back, whom they seemed to like (just not enough to match the huge bluff offer his agent said he had).

[Yorae]

Is Biedrins good enough? Will warriors let him go?

[Rogue]

I have suggested the spurs do some big trade to upgrade their rebounding and paint defense, but they just take my suggestions as kind of poison. I really want the spurs to become a little bit better though I am a huge mavs fan, but the spurs fans just believe hardly that I did that on purpose to harm spurs.

I suggested that the spurs trade Tim Duncan for dampire and stackhouse and some picks and some cash. Tim is pretty good but he is more of a PF than a C, never to mention bonner who is more of a SF. Dampire is not as good as he was but still able to add some toughness to spurs paint that is pretty soft.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...&te=&cash=24:6

[SA210]

People need to start looking at Duncan and criticizing him when he has a bad defensive game. I actually thought Bonner played better defense than Duncan last night. Held his ground a lot better. Of course Duncan was better on the glass, but Bonner was stronger around the bucket.

[Ditty]

marcus camby for a second round draft pick

[xtremesteven33]

I have suggested the spurs do some big trade to upgrade their rebounding and paint defense, but they just take my suggestions as kind of poison. I really want the spurs to become a little bit better though I am a huge mavs fan, but the spurs fans just believe hardly that I did that on purpose to harm spurs.

I suggested that the spurs trade Tim Duncan for dampire and stackhouse and some picks and some cash. Tim is pretty good but he is more of a PF than a C, never to mention bonner who is more of a SF. Dampire is not as good as he was but still able to add some toughness to spurs paint that is pretty soft.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...&te=&cash=24:6

are u serious?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't accept trade proposals from people who can't spell the names of their own team's players.

[DROB4EVER]

Couple guys I would like to see in a spurs uni...Mikki Moore, good team guy, runs well has a good jump shot, plays hard and is a long body and good rebounder. Sac is going young so they may be willing to dump him for some trash.

Channing Frye...Not gonna be in Portlands long term plans, and isnt doing much for them, hes a solid high-low player with long arms who could help out now and could be a role player for years to come.

Turiauf......Don Nelson is wasting this guys talent. He plays 17 mpg and is avg over 2 blocks a game. A energy guy who is a good defender and at 4.5 mil pr year hes a steal!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Is it possible for the Spurs to land theo ratliff or is he not going anywhere from philly?