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    Best game of year so far. Officiate was pretty damn good, other then couple bad calls, one on each side. I like how they let them play and the players were fine with it. I am tired of these for tat calls lately.

    RMJ is now another option to close out games. It will be very tough to stop us now in close games.

    Thanks for the read Timvp. Something I look forward to after games. A poor man's Tivo.

    Hat's off to Lakers fan on here. I haven't seen a lot of complaining about missing players. As long as kobe is around Lakers are still on top.

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    Best game of year so far. Officiate was pretty damn good, other then couple bad calls, one on each side. I like how they let them play and the players were fine with it. I am tired of these for tat calls lately.

    RMJ is now another option to close out games. It will be very tough to stop us now in close games.

    Thanks for the read Timvp. Something I look forward to after games. A poor man's Tivo.

    Hat's off to Lakers fan on here. I haven't seen a lot of complaining about missing players. As long as kobe is around Lakers are still on top.
    Is that DRob on Sesame Street with the count in your sig?

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    One thing I just saw recently that is completely awesome...he and Bonner rank 1-2 in the NBA in 3 shooting...that combined with the star talent of Parker, Manu and Duncan is one of an offensive unit...there's nowhere for NBA defenders to hide with that group on the floor together.
    I think that's what Pop is going for by playing Mason and Bonner so much with the Big Three. Pop sees the type of offense the Lakers can play and I don't think he thinks that the Spurs can beat the Lakers playing typical Spurs Basketball. Beating these Lakers 88-83 doesn't appear to be too likely of a scenario.

    Pop is willing to give up some defensive ap ude if it means the Spurs can be a formidable offensive unit. It's an odd angle considering the history of this championship era but Pop may be onto something. The key will be for Pop to get this offensive unit to be able to defend better than it currently is. Thankfully, Pop has a history of turning bad defenders into decent defenders ... and a history of making sure the defense is somewhat sturdy come playoff time.

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    I think that's what Pop is going for by playing Mason and Bonner so much with the Big Three. Pop sees the type of offense the Lakers can play and I don't think he thinks that the Spurs can beat the Lakers playing typical Spurs Basketball. Beating these Lakers 88-83 doesn't appear to be too likely of a scenario.

    Pop is willing to give up some defensive ap ude if it means the Spurs can be a formidable offensive unit. It's an odd angle considering the history of this championship era but Pop may be onto something. The key will be for Pop to get this offensive unit to be able to defend better than it currently is. Thankfully, Pop has a history of turning bad defenders into decent defenders ... and a history of making sure the defense is somewhat sturdy come playoff time.
    Then the Spurs will lose. No team is going to beat LAL in a shoot out over the course of 7 games.

    You have to make the game a low-scoring ugly affair and do whatever you can to harass Kobe and force him into taking impossible low percentage shots. It's the only way a defensive minded ball club will beat the Lakers.

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    What do you think is causing that? There's been a rash of it lately, whereas we have mostly defended the 3pt line well until recently.
    I think it's mostly just chemistry. When the Spurs are defending well, their pieces are moving in unison and the rotating defenders know exactly where they need to be. That comes from knowing the tendencies of which players rotate more often and the speed of the rotation. I've noticed that Mason, Bonner and Thomas haven't fully figured out that Manu is going to roam at almost every opportunity and that they have to be aware and be prepared to rotate.

    It'll take a little while longer but the good news is these are all smart players so I'm pretty confident they'll figure it out. Plus once Duncan totally defrosts and starts protecting the rim with authority, that'll make everything easier defensively.

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    Then the Spurs will lose. No team is going to beat LAL in a shoot out over the course of 7 games.

    You have to make the game a low-scoring ugly affair and do whatever you can to harass Kobe and force him into taking impossible low percentage shots. It's the only way a defensive minded ball club will beat the Lakers.
    Say that to the Celtics who put up about a buck and a half against the Lakers in the elimination game.

    Plus, the Spurs have better parts to defend against the Lakers this season. Mason is a better Kobe defender than Udoka and a Thomas who knows the defensive system is a better interior defender than anyone the Spurs had next to TD last season.

    The Spurs and Celtics held the Lakers to the same amount of points per game. This year the Spurs have better defensive parts to throw at the Lakers and more offensive firepower. As long as they're healthy, the Spurs will be able to give the Lakers a good series.

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    Say that to the Celtics who put up about a buck and a half against the Lakers in the elimination game.

    Plus, the Spurs have better parts to defend against the Lakers this season. Mason is a better Kobe defender than Udoka and a Thomas who knows the defensive system is a better interior defender than anyone the Spurs had next to TD last season.

    The Spurs and Celtics held the Lakers to the same amount of points per game. This year the Spurs have better defensive parts to throw at the Lakers and more offensive firepower. As long as they're healthy, the Spurs will be able to give the Lakers a good series.

    The arrogance of the Laker fan from 2003 has reappeared apparently.

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    Say that to the Celtics who put up about a buck and a half against the Lakers in the elimination game.

    Plus, the Spurs have better parts to defend against the Lakers this season. Mason is a better Kobe defender than Udoka and a Thomas who knows the defensive system is a better interior defender than anyone the Spurs had next to TD last season.

    The Spurs and Celtics held the Lakers to the same amount of points per game. This year the Spurs have better defensive parts to throw at the Lakers and more offensive firepower. As long as they're healthy, the Spurs will be able to give the Lakers a good series.
    Right but Thomas will be helping on Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Lakers didn't have the same low posting scoring threat as they did last season in the playoffs.

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    Right but Thomas will be helping on Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Lakers didn't have the same low posting scoring threat as they did last season in the playoffs.
    Thank you Captain Obvious

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    Thank you Captain Obvious
    Is there ever a point in your day when you think, "maybe I won't be an asshole today"?

    You said the Spurs have better options at low post defending but you neglected to mention the Lakers have *possibly* a better low post offensive threat.

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    Thank you Captain Obvious
    I would be one to say, the more Bynum has the ball in his hands the less guys like Kobe and Pau get going.. Bynum's defense going to be the biggest new threat to the Lakers this season, but 112 points and a win later, I think its safe to say he had less of an impact than he may have liked on that end.

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    I would be one to say, the more Bynum has the ball in his hands the less guys like Kobe and Pau get going.. Bynum's defense going to be the biggest new threat to the Lakers this season, but 112 points and a win later, I think its safe to say he had less of an impact than he may have liked on that end.
    Bynum certainly had a few plays on the offensive end that were impressive. He has another half a season to work on his offensive game.

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    Solid take, timvp, but I think we need to get on the phone with Phoenix and see if we can work a trade for Amare. The Spurs could use a big who plays lockdown defense like him.
    that's not a bad idea at all.

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    Is there ever a point in your day when you think, "maybe I won't be an asshole today"?

    You said the Spurs have better options at low post defending but you neglected to mention the Lakers have *possibly* a better low post offensive threat.
    Theres only one ball, and if they want to give it to Bynum instead of Kobe, thats fine.

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    Is there ever a point in your day when you think, "maybe I won't be an asshole today"?


    You said the Spurs have better options at low post defending but you neglected to mention the Lakers have *possibly* a better low post offensive threat.
    I'm on record as saying the Lakers are the favorite. I didn't know I had to spell out exactly why in each post I make on the subject. If this year's Spurs team were healthy, they'd be able to beat last year's Lakers in the playoffs pretty easily. But obviously, this isn't last year's Lakers team. Gasol is much more comfortable, Bynum has the potential to be a beast and their role players are better.

    The Spurs are the underdogs and will likely remain the underdogs but if the Spurs can stay healthy, improve defensively and keep getting good production from the role players, I think they can give the Lakers a good series.

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    Theres only one ball, and if they want to give it to Bynum instead of Kobe, thats fine.
    Unless Bynum makes his shots.

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    I'll take that as a "no".

    I'm on record as saying the Lakers are the favorite. I didn't know I had to spell out exactly why in each post I make on the subject.
    Well I would think when someone who takes pride in his analysis is talking about the Spurs ability to defend the low post, he should mention that as the Spurs got better defending the low post, the Lakers got better scoring in the low post. My mistake.
    If this year's Spurs team were healthy, they'd be able to beat last year's Lakers in the playoffs pretty easily. But obviously, this isn't last year's Lakers team. Gasol is much more comfortable, Bynum has the potential to be a beast and their role players are better.

    The Spurs are the underdogs and will likely remain the underdogs but if the Spurs can stay healthy, improve defensively and keep getting good production from the role players, I think they can give the Lakers a good series.
    *gasp* we agree

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    Far too often the Spurs are giving up wide open three-pointers or clean looks near the basket when they are in the midst of rotating
    We gave up 2 or 3 bad three pointers; the worst one was Mason being late on Kobe on an inbound play.

    And who can forget Orlando hitting 17 3's?

    Hill appears to be figuring out how to contribute in a limited role off the bench. During that stretch, he's averaging 8.8 points while hitting 66.7% of his shots from the field (12-of-18) and beyond the three-point arc (4-of-6).
    That's the good news I was waiting for.
    We knew he could deliver as a starter, and now he is getting comfy as a back-up

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    Is that DRob on Sesame Street with the count in your sig?
    yeah, I couldn't resist.

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    Bynum certainly had a few plays on the offensive end that were impressive. He has another half a season to work on his offensive game.
    Everyone has another half a season to work on everything. Even the Spurs defense.

    We gave up 2 or 3 bad three pointers; the worst one was Mason being late on Kobe on an inbound play.
    He wasn't late. He was respecting Kobe's ability to drive and gave him space. Kobe just made a clutch 3.

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    Unless Bynum makes his shots.

    Anyday, give the ball to Bynum instead of Kobe. Less touch for Kobe the better. Bynum is still very young and inconsistent. He is more about offense then defense. I would rather have Bynum out there then Odom come playoff time.

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    Everyone has another half a season to work on everything. Even the Spurs defense.
    Yeah but I don't think KT is getting quicker in the next few months.

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    Anyday, give the ball to Bynum instead of Kobe. Less touch for Kobe the better. Bynum is still very young and inconsistent. He is more about offense then defense. I would rather have Bynum out there then Odom come playoff time.
    Over the past 5 games Bynum has shot 58.3%, 80%, 61.5%, 41.7%, and 60% (spurs game). He has a lot of potential to be extremely dangerous down low. And I'd rather see Kobe take contested jump shots than a 7 footer get the ball in the paint.

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    Then the Spurs will lose. No team is going to beat LAL in a shoot out over the course of 7 games.

    You have to make the game a low-scoring ugly affair and do whatever you can to harass Kobe and force him into taking impossible low percentage shots. It's the only way a defensive minded ball club will beat the Lakers.

    Um..put the crack pipe down.

    You guys were lucky to beat the Spurs last season and would not have done so had Manu been healthy instead of a liability. I mean figure it out...you guys eeked out several wins and the player that was hurting us the most was a guy who when healthy contends for Finals MVP.


    Furthermore...you need to send Chris Paul and the Hornets a thank you note. Hopefully ya'll will get them in the playoffs this year before playing us.


    The Lakers really don't match up that well with the Spurs....and I got news for you...you aren't going to beat the Spurs by outshooting them, especially now.

    You may not want to hear this...but the Lakers are still a one star team, and that will be exposed against a healthy team with more stars...as it was in the finals last year.


    Can't win a championship with a one star team unless your name is Hakeem.

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    Yeah but I don't think KT is getting quicker in the next few months.
    Bynum isn't running a fast break, he is playing with his back to the basket. KT mainly needs strength for that. And he could very well get stronger as he fully recovers from his early-season injury.

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