Trading Shaq brightened future for Lakers

[Lakers_55]

I wanted to keep Shaq. I think LA could have had two more les by now if they kept Shaq.

First off, Shaq asked to be traded. The Lakers position was his wish would be accomodated. We then gambled on keeping Kobe. I don't know if we could have won more les with him. Since the league had adjusted to our team, and our better role players were gone. I doubt it. Now, we are in contention again, and will be as long as Kobe plays like Kobe. Spurs are finding out what the Lakers found out in 2004. Their team has been adjusted to. They were the best from 2005-2007, but not any longer. Still a contender, yes, but not the favorite.

[TheMadHatter]

Calling the owner of this site a "stupid " has to make you a super, super-intelligent person. And if Gasol hadn't been gifted to you, all this rebuilding would have been good for about 6th place in the Western Conference and the Lakers would still be a doormat in the playoffs.

The audacity of some Lakers fans is beyond comprehension.

The Lakers were #1 in the WC before they ever got Gasol.

The bottom line is LAL never stays down for long. That's why they are the winningest franchise in the NBA. Great ownership, quality GM's, attractive location for FA's. Simply the best.

[timvp]

The Lakers were #1 in the WC before they ever got Gasol.

The bottom line is LAL never stays down for long. That's why they are the winningest franchise in the NBA. Great ownership, quality GM's, attractive location for FA's. Simply the best.

Says the Knicks fan . . .

[Lakers999]

Says the Knicks fan . . .

well what do you expect? people love san antonio spurs for their exciting plays, ginobili bald spot, referee help, and great location of the at@t center out in the middle of no where off the 35 where whataburger are your only major sponsors and rest?



look....laker fans are a little different from any other team's fan base we have been spoiled by great laker players and constant playoff and finals appearances. we reward our players by cheering them on buying their crap jerseys, sneakers, speeches, etc. and even supporting them when they are arrested.. BUT... ONCE WE ARE DISSED by the same person we have been supporting for so long (Shaq)...all gloves will come off and hate will begin to spew no mater what that person has done to help our franchise. Kobe never made us angry he just pissed off management with all his trade talk, demads, and at ude... which laker fans supported becuase it wasnt too long ago where laker fans were asking for kupchack head. SHaq rubbed it into evry laker fan face that we cant win without him which is not true becuase he his on his 4th team le hunting to be elite while kobe has been through the ups and downs finally reaching the elite level where at this point its any season for kobe to win it all without shaq. Shaq on the otherhand is on the outside begging, egging, his way to get back in and be with a team and city that gave him so much success and where he had the most fun by winning CHAMPIONSHIPS WITH the best player in the nBA

[Hemotivo]

Actually it was called collusion and Derek Fisher throwing his own sick kid under the bus to get back to the Lakers.

[cobbler]

Actually it was called collusion and Derek Fisher throwing his own sick kid under the bus to get back to the Lakers.

No more collusion than your getting JRich.... And how is putting his family in the best position to take care of his child throwing her under the bus? I would really love to hear your ignorant explaination for that absurd comment.

Actually, I would rather not as most everything that comes out of your mouth is pure bull fabrication born of an extreme jealousy of everything Lakers.

[cobbler]

Lie. Trading Shaq was dumb and the Lakers knew it. Blame your superstar, Kobe Bryant for being such an asshole.

Trading Shaq was a pure business move. And a prudent one at that. The only problem that came from it was the Shaq cried and whined and DEMANDED the trade which left the Lakers bargaining from a weak stance. It is why we had to settle for the players we got. Shaq sealed his fate in the preseason running down the court in front of the media screaming at Dr. Buss to pay him the F'ing money. He wanted a multi year 30 mil extension that would have strapped us thru 2011 with a fat ass whining egomaniac. Did he help us to 3 championships? No doubt. However, he hadn't done for 2 years and was only getting more out of shape and asking for more. Furthermore, he belittled teamates, coaches, and front office just like he did to the Magic a subsequently the Heat. It's going to happen to the Suns too.

If you follow the scenario of the trades, what we eventually received for Shaq was Odom and Gasol. And to answer the other post of what have we done since Shaq left? Simply rebuilded in to a ream who made the Finals within 3 years and who will be a favorite to do so for many more. I'm willing to bet when Timmy walks your team wont be back within 3 years. It's why the Lakers have been involved in HALF of the NBA finals to date. We have great ownership who are willing to make prudent business decisions and do what it takes to be the best.

[jack sommerset]

You would think the guy who wrote this piece of could wait until the Lakers won a ring since the Shaq trade. Until then just Bull

[cobbler]

You would think the guy who wrote this piece of could wait until the Lakers won a ring since the Shaq trade. Until then just Bull

...just as you would think a Rocket's fan should keep his mouth shut about everything until they actually make it out of the first round.

[jack sommerset]

...just as you would think a Rocket's fan should keep his mouth shut about everything until they actually make it out of the first round.

not a rocket fan

[cobbler]

not a rocket fan

Maybe you should change your info then.

[timvp]

No more collusion than your getting JRich

Huh? Does Laker Fan watch the NBA?

.... And how is putting his family in the best position to take care of his child throwing her under the bus? I would really love to hear your ignorant explaination for that absurd comment.

If Sloan called him out then it's fair game.

Actually, I would rather not as most everything that comes out of your mouth is pure bull fabrication born of an extreme jealousy of everything Lakers.

Laker Shaq > Laker Kobe.

U mad?

[IronMexican]

First off, Shaq asked to be traded. The Lakers position was his wish would be accomodated. We then gambled on keeping Kobe. I don't know if we could have won more les with him. Since the league had adjusted to our team, and our better role players were gone. I doubt it. Now, we are in contention again, and will be as long as Kobe plays like Kobe. Spurs are finding out what the Lakers found out in 2004. Their team has been adjusted to. They were the best from 2005-2007, but not any longer. Still a contender, yes, but not the favorite.

I still blame Kupchack for that.

[cobbler]

Huh? Does Laker Fan watch the NBA?

If Sloan called him out then it's fair game.

Laker Shaq > Laker Kobe.

U mad?

Mad? Why would I be mad? I'm laughing actually because as usual you offered nothing up to prove your bull comments which have no validity in reality. As usually is the case with you!

[anakha]

Mad? Why would I be mad? I'm laughing actually because as usual you offered nothing up to prove your bull comments which have no validity in reality. As usually is the case with you!

If you don't mind answering...

Where did you pick up the notion that the Spurs were getting JRich?

[cobbler]

If you don't mind answering...

Where did you pick up the notion that the Spurs were getting JRich?

My bad... I have gotten so used to Suns fans crying about how Sterns, the refs, and the NBA have screwed them over the years I mistook him to be a Suns fan. Being a Spurs fan, I am sure you realize what I'm talking about. I have heard the collusion comment regarding the Gasol trade from them so much I messed up.

If you actually look at what Memphis has done by dumping the salary they did in the trade, along with obtaining Marc Gasol, it's not so crazy as everyone thought.

[Lakers_55]

I have heard the collusion comment regarding the Gasol trade from them so much I messed up.

What's funny is, the collusion talk didn't start until either:

A) The Lakers started winning
B) Pop criticized it as '"needing league investigation on legality".
C) Both

See my post on previous page for the proof. People just like to without researching fact. I've tried to avoid making a thread about it, trying to add to discussions instead. Either no one is reading it, or if they do, they realize they can't refute it and move on. No one is commenting on my post, that's for sure. I may make a thread soon, dunno right now.

[timvp]

If you actually look at what Memphis has done by dumping the salary they did in the trade, along with obtaining Marc Gasol, it's not so crazy as everyone thought.

Keep telling yourself that . . .

What's funny is, the collusion talk didn't start until either:

A) The Lakers started winning

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It started the second after the Gasol trade was announced.

[Lakers_55]

Keep telling yourself that . . .

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It started the second after the Gasol trade was announced.

Not here at Spurs Talk! At least in the thread announcing the trade. I have it linked on previous page of this thread.

[TheMACHINE]

holy crap..you spurs fans are dumb as nails. "Shaq gave you three le, and youo let him go."...its business idiots! The team was falling apart, we lost two times in a row in the playoffs, players demanded higher salarys...something had to give...and why not give away the guy who is demanding crap, coming to work out fo shape, getting older and yelling PAY ME to the owner.

4 years later...were back on top. SO STFU and learn how to run a business.

[timvp]

Not here at Spurs Talk! At least in the thread announcing the trade. I have it linked on previous page of this thread.

Pau Gasol Traded To Lakers For Nothing

Considering that I started the thread, I know that the le wasn't an accident . . .

[DrHouse]

Huh? Does Laker Fan watch the NBA?

If Sloan called him out then it's fair game.

Laker Shaq > Laker Kobe.

U mad?

It's slightly unnerving that the owner of this great site is a moron.

Nobody cares about Shaq anymore. He's fat, washed up, and not relevant to anything the Lakers are doing right now. Had he stayed I truly believe LAL would be worse for the wear and whatever drama you saw in '04 would look like a giant Kumbaya session in comparison. The Lakers made the right move in letting him go when they did. They made the wrong move in not getting Dwayne Wade out of the deal.

Still, they have managed to rebuild in 3 short years and now have a contender for at least the next 2 seasons. Not bad I say. Not bad.

You'll appreciate the greatness of the Laker franchise when you watch your Spurs disappear from the radar completely as Duncan and Pop retire.

[TheMACHINE]

You'll appreciate the greatness of the Laker franchise when you watch your Spurs disappear from the radar completely as Duncan and Pop retire.

Or they can tank the season, and get the #1 pick again. We saw what happened last time they did it.

[anakha]

It's slightly unnerving that the owner of this great site is a moron.

Nobody cares about Shaq anymore. He's fat, washed up, and not relevant to anything the Lakers are doing right now. Had he stayed I truly believe LAL would be worse for the wear and whatever drama you saw in '04 would look like a giant Kumbaya session in comparison. The Lakers made the right move in letting him go when they did. They made the wrong move in not getting Dwayne Wade out of the deal.

Still, they have managed to rebuild in 3 short years and now have a contender for at least the next 2 seasons. Not bad I say. Not bad.

You'll appreciate the greatness of the Laker franchise when you watch your Spurs disappear from the radar completely as Duncan and Pop retire.

Considering the post you quoted was in response to a Laker fan's statement that that person later admitted to messing up on...

[timvp]

It's slightly unnerving that the owner of this great site is a moron.

Nobody cares about Shaq anymore. He's fat, washed up, and not relevant to anything the Lakers are doing right now.

Reading comprehension?

My stance is that Shaq was the better and more important player during the three-peat. Despite what bandwagon Laker Fan claims.