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    LMAO

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/op...=1&ref=opinion

    The Wild Party

    On Dec. 26, Thayer Evans, a Houston-based freelancer who writes frequently for The Times, reported that one of the nation’s most intense college football recruiting battles had ended: Jamarkus McFarland of Lufkin, Tex., was going to Oklahoma, not Texas.

    Evans had stayed close to McFarland and his mother, Kashemeyia Adams, for months, and he recounted an intense courtship of them by coaches and boosters. He quoted from a paper that McFarland had written for his high school English class that described the recruiting process, including comparisons of the football programs. McFarland’s paper described a party at an upscale Dallas hotel, hosted by Texas fans after the Texas-Oklahoma game, where he said drugs and alcohol were plentiful and young women took off their clothes and were “romancing each other.”

    But McFarland later told rivals.com, a football fan Web site, that he had “ ed up” the description of the party and intimated that, if he had known Evans was going to quote from his paper, he could have told the reporter what was accurate and what was not. Evans told me he went over the paper in detail with McFarland, and Adams told me that she knew the reporter reviewed what he was writing with her son, although she didn’t know the details of their conversation.

    The Times asked McFarland to clarify his conflicting remarks, and after two days, he sent a text message that cleared up nothing. It said he had respect for Evans, that his school paper was written “to capture and inform my audiences,” and “I stand by this story and I have moved on.”

    Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters, and she said she would not let him talk to reporters in the future. But she defended Evans’s story. “An article was written, and I was very well pleased with it, and that’s that,” she said.

    What really happened? I asked Evans how much he pressed for independent verification of the party. He said he asked for the name of the hotel, and McFarland could not remember it. The reporter did not ask who invited the young man to the party, who accompanied him or who else might have witnessed the lurid events.

    Evans said that in retrospect, he could have done more to get independent corroboration of the party. But he said that McFarland and his mother had never misled him during their long association.

    Tom Jolly, the sports editor, and Mike Abrams, who was editing the 2,800-word article on deadline on Christmas Day, said they did not press Evans about the party. Abrams said the allegations were in a school paper, and “there’s a trust between this kid and a teacher.” McFarland is a good student, and “submitting this do ent for a grade added credibility,” Abrams said — “maybe too much credibility.”

    The article also contained allegations by Adams that she had received various offers to induce her son to go to Texas, although it made clear that she did not believe that anyone associated with the university was responsible for any misconduct. Nick Voinis, a spokesman for the University of Texas athletics department, complained to me that Evans did not call the university for comment before the article was published.

    Evans did alert the university just before his article was published on the newspaper’s Web site. Why didn’t he seek reaction beforehand? He said that if anyone at Texas had spoken to him, it would have violated N.C.A.A. recruiting rules. And, he said, he did not want to give either Texas or Oklahoma information they could use to try to influence McFarland’s decision.

    “I felt like we made the best efforts we could under the cir stances,” Evans said.

    Regardless of whether Texas officials would have commented, Evans should have given them the chance. As in each of the other cases, a phone call could have headed off much embarrassment.

    Ronald Reagan may not have loved the press, but he had good advice for every reporter: Trust but verify.

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    [QUOTE=spurtime;3037333]LMAO

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/op...=1&ref=opinion


    Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters,


    STAY CLASSY TEXAS FAN

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    LMAO

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/op...=1&ref=opinion


    Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters,


    STAY CLASSY TEXAS FAN
    You too, "Guy who makes fun of Vince Young threatening suicide."

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    You too, "Guy who makes fun of Vince Young threatening suicide."
    ture probly shouldent have said that.

    but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it
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    ture probly shouldent have said that.
    Good job acknowledging that.

    but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it
    #1 The age difference is a non-issue since the comments are completely different...Alleged racial epithets vs. do ented ridiculing of mental illness.

    #2 I agree...the mother should keep her lying mouth shut. She's been caught with her hands out and lying from the beginning in this sordid saga.

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    ture probly shouldent have said that.

    but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it
    Since the issue of race exceeds all others in importance.

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    Good job acknowledging that.

    #2 I agree...the mother should keep her lying mouth shut. She's been caught with her hands out and lying from the beginning in this sordid saga.
    so cause she is saying it about texas she lying right. if this thing was turned around and it was ou fans calling this kid racal names and also trying to give the family a hand out to get the kid to norman every texas fan on here would be talking but when its your school being throw under the bus it cant be true

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    Since the issue of race exceeds all others in importance.
    just a line i wont cross

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    so cause she is saying it about texas she lying right. if this thing was turned around and it was ou fans calling this kid racal names and also trying to give the family a hand out to get the kid to norman every texas fan on here would be talking but when its your school being throw under the bus it cant be true
    You don't get it...She injected race into this thing from the beginning when she talked about Jackie Shipp, the black adult role model, juxtaposing him against the white UT assistant coach (MacWhorter) who was recruiting her son.

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    texas fans are racialist

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    You don't get it...She injected race into this thing from the beginning when she talked about Jackie Shipp, the black adult role model, juxtaposing him against the white UT assistant coach (MacWhorter) who was recruiting her son.

    she wanted her son to have a black male role modle thats diffrent that call someone a racal slur

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    she wanted her son to have a black male role modle thats diffrent that call someone a racal slur
    Of course it is, but it shows that she's hung up on race. She kept bringing it up.

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    Of course it is, but it shows that she's hung up on race. She kept bringing it up.
    I thank it's more that were ever he went he had a father figuer and there's nothing wrong with her feeling better about her son haveing a black man he can go to.

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    I thank it's more that were ever he went he had a father figuer and there's nothing wrong with her feeling better about her son haveing a black man he can go to.
    First of all you really should consider checking your spelling before you click the submit button. So if there is a white recruit who chose let's say...TCU instead of Buffalo, and the mother mentioned how he needed a good white role model and since Gil Turner is black she prefered the white Gary Patterson instead, these situations would both be justified? I sure hope this isn't a double standard

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    First of all you really should consider checking your spelling before you click the submit button. So if there is a white recruit who chose let's say...TCU instead of Buffalo, and the mother mentioned how he needed a good white role model and since Gil Turner is black she prefered the white Gary Patterson instead, these situations would both be justified? I sure hope this isn't a double standard
    yes it's the same thing there would be nothing wrong with that at all. People feel better around what they know. look you cant tell me that texas dosent have a black coach on the staff when the first guy they sent was getting beat why dident they try sending the black guy. Or just maybe try talking to the mom. The fact that Shipp and Stoops went throw the mom to get to the kid is why he is going to ou and not texas.


    and lastly even if it was racist (which it wasent) them likeing ou becuse a black coach was doing the recruting thats no reason for texas fans to be walking aroung calling him racal slurs

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    yes it's the same thing there would be nothing wrong with that at all. People feel better around what they know. look you cant tell me that texas dosent have a black coach on the staff when the first guy they sent was getting beat why dident they try sending the black guy. Or just maybe try talking to the mom. The fact that Shipp and Stoops went throw the mom to get to the kid is why he is going to ou and not texas.


    and lastly even if it was racist (which it wasent) them likeing ou becuse a black coach was doing the recruting thats no reason for texas fans to be walking aroung calling him racal slurs
    SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN HIM PLAY!!! If I was that kid the last person I'd want helping me with my decision was my mom who's yet to actually watch me. I think the Texas recruiting staff kind of saw the irony in his mom playing such a big part in his decision. Just to make you feel better, the only names that I called him was a mommas boy .

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    SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN HIM PLAY!!! If I was that kid the last person I'd want helping me with my decision was my mom who's yet to actually watch me. I think the Texas recruiting staff kind of saw the irony in his mom playing such a big part in his decision. Just to make you feel better, the only names that I called him was a mommas boy .
    so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
    My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.

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    so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
    My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.
    Yeah since that is what I said asshole. Way to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that his mom should of had NOTHING to do with his recruiting since she never even made time to watch him play. Did I say anything bad about him being close to his mother? NO. Plus, quite honestly, if the situations had been reversed or if I was a Sooner fan I would be a little skeptical of someone who obviously couldn't make his own decisions without his mommy

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    The lady is a freak. She engineered this whole thing to suit her own agenda. The tables wouldn't be reversed because we wouldn't utilize Jackie $hipp the way the Sooners do. Remember who is the team on probation and with the lengthy history of recruiting violations. Hint: Not Texas.

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    so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
    My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.
    Dude, I really hope you didn't go to OU. You're not making a very strong argument with the type of education you obviously received there. Must have played football there too.

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    Shoddy journalism + naive high school kid = less-than-credible reporting

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    Yeah since that is what I said asshole. Way to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that his mom should of had NOTHING to do with his recruiting since she never even made time to watch him play. Did I say anything bad about him being close to his mother? NO. Plus, quite honestly, if the situations had been reversed or if I was a Sooner fan I would be a little skeptical of someone who obviously couldn't make his own decisions without his mommy
    its about more then playing football so the family should be able to help the kid

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    The lady is a freak. She engineered this whole thing to suit her own agenda. The tables wouldn't be reversed because we wouldn't utilize Jackie $hipp the way the Sooners do. Remember who is the team on probation and with the lengthy history of recruiting violations. Hint: Not Texas.
    they use coach shipp to recruit that part of texas again nothing wrong with that. and ou is not on probation for recruting violations, and the problems your talking about happened in the 80's under a diffrent staff

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    Dude, I really hope you didn't go to OU. You're not making a very strong argument with the type of education you obviously received there. Must have played football there too.
    and what school did you go to.

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    they use coach shipp to recruit that part of texas again nothing wrong with that. and ou is not on probation for recruting violations, and the problems your talking about happened in the 80's under a diffrent staff
    LOL...Have you heard of Rhett Bomar?

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