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How does Duncan's taste?
-dirk
Dirk can't do half of what Duncan did in his prime especially, and Duncan would always get more out of his teams because he does more. He isn't on the same planet as Tim on defense, (Duncan is one of the best defensive big men ever) can't rebound like Tim, can't play the post or command the double like Tim, isn't the leader or as Mentally tough as Tim. Duncan is still better than Dirk is today. Watch 2003 Tim Duncan and it is like comparing Jordan to Reggie Miller..
How does Duncan's taste?
-dirk
Taste just fine since you can't refute what i said.
And come up with something new asshole.. Anytime someone goes off about TD and his legacy you say something like "Get off his " You even about it in the game threads.. If your tired of Spurs fans praising him, find a new forum..
Tim Duncan is undeniably the best PF right now. Also, probably the best PF ever to play the game up to this point in time. Now, that's hardly a knock on Dirk, which I feel that history-wise, is probably going to be relegated to be ranked below Malone and Barkley, perhaps unjustly so. Unless, ofcourse, he manages to win it all...
Who are you to tell anyone they should find a new forum?
Defensive Spurfans are close but not quite as homer as defensive laker fans.
There's a difference between being the best and playing like the best. Dirk has been playing at a higher level than Duncan recently, which is the point of this thread, but some people took it the wrong way.
I don't think Dirk has. I mean, maybe a game or two where Duncan was subpar, like the Philly game. But overall, no way. Duncan has been basically our entire defensive anchor these days, even more now that Bruce has been sitting a while. The day Dirk is 50% the defender Duncan is, he will be an incredible player. Some people think scoring more points = better player and that's certainly not true at all.
Myself, as well as most others in the thread do.
Dirk has been basically our entire team these days, even more that Howard has been sucking a while.I mean, maybe a game or two where Duncan was subpar, like the Philly game. But overall, no way. Duncan has been basically our entire defensive anchor these days, even more now that Bruce has been sitting a while. The day Dirk is 50% the defender Duncan is, he will be an incredible player. Some people think scoring more points = better player and that's certainly not true at all.
As good a defender as Duncan is or not, Dirk is an incredible player.
Who are you to whine and cry about people praising Tim Duncan on Spurstalk?? You do it all the time.. Head on over to Yankees forums for me and tell them to get off Jeter's while your at it..
I'm not sure you understand the kind of numbers Tim would put up if he was on the Mavs. He'd be averaging 25 and 12 easy. Dirk's been better than Tim offensively this season because he's had to be. They're both about equal in offensive efficiency, but Dirk has way for FGA's a game. Oh and Tim's still got him on D even with Tim's lackluster D this season.
Oh and to answer the question...
1) Tim
2) Dirk
3) Bosh
4) Pau/KG
5) Amare
duncan is past his prime, i dont even think he's the best player on his team anymore.
People should stop putting Bosh above KG. Stats only tell half of the story. You swap KG or even Pau Gasol with Bosh on that Raptors team, and they both likely go to 22-10-4. You put Bosh on a stacked team like Boston or LA, he doesnt average over 20.
Garnett is still a class above Bosh, and i wouldnt argue with Gasol being ranked higher either.
1. Duncan
2. Dirk
3. KG
4. Gasol
5. Bosh
6. Amare
Dirk and KG are pretty close IMO, but ive always leaned toward Dirk.
Duncan separates himself from Dirk at the defensive end. I honestly wouldn't even rate Dirk above KG because of defense.
Dirk IMHO is the 3rd best PF in the league right now. He'd make the perfect 2nd option on just about any championship team.
Right now Dirk is playing way better than KG!
Intensity! Chest Pound!
You know that for sure don't you?
Tim Duncan or Luis Scola, hard to decide.
DD
Dirk is great but Duncan is still the best.
Statistically it's a draw (points for dirk, the other stats for Duncan) but intangibles speak for Duncan.
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Offensively? Sure, KG is somewhat coasting. On the defensive side? It's not even close.
When it comes to picking on guys a foot shorter than him, KG wins that one too.
KG has never been on the same level as Dirk on offense, or leadership. His defense might be better, but he is a terrible leader, and 10X the choker Dirk could ever be considered. Give me leadership over chest pounding and a couple blocked shots all day. And I'm not saying Dirk is some amazing leader or anything, but he sure has done a lot better than Garnett has ever done, and makes his teammates better.
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You're wrong. I have no idea what leadership has to do with chest pounding. Garnett is a great leader because he keeps everybody working hard, especially on defence, and he's an unselfish player. I'm not saying he's a better or worse leader than Dirk, I'm not into that kind of childish conversations. And if there's a player who has make his teammates better, it has been Garnett. And he certainly lead the team to the championship last season.
And who cares about blocked shots? Garnett is the better defensive big in the NBA but not because of blocking shots. Dirk "might be better"? I really like Dirk, but Garnett plays the best pick'n'roll defence in the history of the game. It's not close.
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